Jurassic World (2015)

[Water Bottle]

We know it was kept in complete isolation with one exception, which it ate. That it would recognise a raptor as its own kin and talk to them turning them against the humans is completely unrealistic in the universe that it has created for itself.

 

He partially operated by smell. It's possible that even though he had been kept in isolation, the pheromones the raptors released triggered his genetic coding into recognizing them as his own. It's not like he saw the raptors and thought "oh, hey, I know what you are. Let's be friends." It was deeper than that on a genetic level: the smell clearly released genetic memory. It's also why the raptors recognized him as the alpha temporarily before their bond with Chris Pratt won them over: he released the same phermones. 

 

The I rex isn't human. It might have been made up by humans but they used genetic code in order to craft him up. Therefore he has years of genetic intuition that can explain this plot point. It's more on the nature in the nature vs. nurture side of the debate and your entire contention is based on 100% nurture, ignoring nature altogether.

[John Marston]

In all fairness the whole first movie has a lot of dumb moments. 

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agreed. The first one is a great movie but it has a lot of dumb moments. Hell the beginning of the movie is a great example. Transporting a raptor without sedating it? lol 

[lilmac]

B

 

It's the 2nd best Jurassic Park movie, and I liked Lost World.

 

Pros:

• Some of the thrills were creative (i.e. use of reflection in glass)
• FX was good for the most part.
• Chris Pratt

 

 

Cons:

 

• Some SFX were wanting but that was an exception.
• None of the characters I cared about (I didn't bat a eye when the owner of Jurassic World died in the copter crash).
• Many of the scare scenes were predictable and redundant.  
• Most of the negatives centered around the villain. Still unclear about his goal and background. The villain's acting was also a bit heavy-handed. 
• Forgettable score (except for the occasional nods to the JP score by JW)
• The studio really played it safe with the gore, too safe. It was like they were going for a PG rating. 
• I understand the need to protect your investment but the lack of heavy weapons was unforgivable.

Edited June 13, 2015 by lilmac

[Phil in the Blank]

He partially operated by smell. It's possible that even though he had been kept in isolation, the pheromones the raptors released triggered his genetic coding into recognizing them as his own. It's not like he saw the raptors and thought "oh, hey, I know what you are. Let's be friends." It was deeper than that on a genetic level: the smell clearly released genetic memory. It's also why the raptors recognized him as the alpha temporarily before their bond with Chris Pratt won them over: he released the same phermones. 

 

The I rex isn't human. It might have been made up by humans but they used genetic code in order to craft him up. Therefore he has years of genetic intuition that can explain this plot point. It's more on the nature in the nature vs. nurture side of the debate and your entire contention is based on 100% nurture, ignoring nature altogether.

 

Any creature alive today has millions of years of genetic intuition. That doesn't mean that if you isolate a particular animal from birth and deny them the opportunity to socialise that they are magically going to be able to communicate years down the track in any meaningful way. Whether that is cat, mouse, elephant, panda, human or presumably anything created in a lab either.

 

But I see no reason to continue this argument as I feel I have made my point as clearly as I can. Apparently we are just never gonna agree on this!

 

[Chewy]

It's big dumb fun. Had a really good time but I'm thinking it might not hold up for me without the audience that's super into it (and the audience was SUPER into it) Like, I'm thinking about a couple of the plot points and just laughing

 

But whatever. I had fun, I'm happy we have another monster run to track, and it's cool to see Universal on top after what felt like an eternity of struggle

[The47th]

Good entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

It starts very sloppy, but it just keeps getting better, and the third act blows your mind in a good way.

 

It's definitely dumb in many moments, though. It's OK to be dumb in Hollywood, but you need to hide it well so people don't realize of the absence of logic. The kids fixing and abandoned 20+ years-old Jeep was the most stricking moment for me, it took me out of the film completely, and I wasn't even thinking how lucky they were that it had enough gas to take them to the park.

 

The other dumb thing that took me out of the experience is the utter incompetence of Claire when it came to evacuating the island. I understand why their need to prevent the bad news from spreading, but once the first containment team was killed, there was no excuse not to get all those people out of there. And as the movie goes on, it just gets more ridiculous, like when you see that the pterodactyle attack happens in the daylight and the night comes and people are STILL there. I would have understood if there was a problem with the boats or anything (the original used the storm to make communications and transportation more difficult), but they didn't give any excuse. Just sloppy writing.

 

In the real world, Claire's mismanagement of the situation would have probably gotten her to jail.

 

The kids have one too many emotional scenes, by the end it felt redundant how much they tried to show us that their relationship had changed.

 

The directing was generic but satisfactory. A more skillful director could have made scenes like the helicopter crash a lot more impressive. He didn't do a bad job at all, but I'm glad he won't direct the next one. I can't imagine what this could have been in the hands of the people who made Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

 

 

Overall, a solid entertainment. I give it a B.

Edited June 13, 2015 by The47th

[baumer]

If you are complaining about the Irex recognizing the raptors, then you are obviously way out of the movie.  I loved that scene and I don't care if it's realistic or not, it played well and for those of us who like it, it was fantastic, for those of you who don't, you'll find just about anything to pick apart.  

 

It was like me with Godzilla, I found every detail to be about as stupid as possible.  Obviously those who loved it thought those details were cool.

[vc2002]

Only 39.22% voted A. I guess this is not really well received on this site?

[Avatree]

Really, enjoyable entertaining movie. Doesn't try to be anything less, doesn't try to be anything more. Some of the action sequences are thrilling, and even a few scenes shook and shocked me. 8 / 10

Yes it does - it has plenty of elements of attempted satire, which don't work. It tries to say something about the state of Hollywood films but fails as the movie itself is just a big silly Hollywood film that tries to be bigger and louder than everyone else. That stuff really doesn't work.

[baumer]

It all works.  Every bit of it.

[The47th]

Yes it does - it has plenty of elements of attempted satire, which don't work. It tries to say something about the state of Hollywood films but fails as the movie itself is just a big silly Hollywood film that tries to be bigger and louder than everyone else. That stuff really doesn't work.

 

I don't think it needed anything else than those comments, though. It's a Hollywood product that acknowledges its own nature.

[Jim Shorts]

A woman in high heels can outrun a T-Rex.  Fact.   

[Nutterbutter]

I gave it a B.

 

If you're looking for a well put together "film" with clever plotting and smart story and character development, you're in the wrong place. This is not that movie, but the good news is that this never claimed to be and, frankly, never expected anyone to think it was. Which I think works to its benefit - it knows it's not smart. If there's one thing I can't stand it's a story that thinks it's deep and clever but anyone can clearly see that everything it's saying is stupid.

 

The storyline is thin, the characters are poorly drawn and a lot of the plot twists are almost laughably contrived - but these "weaknesses" aren't so weak, so bad that they outright spoil the movie, at least not to me. If anything, they're just more elements to chuckle at. This is just a fun movie. It's hella entertaining and a rip-roaring good time, so much that I didn't care about the "weak" stuff even though my critical brain was very aware of them. When the final battle was over and the movie was ending, I was disappointed - I wanted more!

 

So, as far as "film" goes the movie is average at best. But if you just want an awesome, exciting popcorn movie, a good time at the movies with lots of awesome action scenes, lots of dinosaurs chasing people, lots of happy screaming in your head at the dumb humans to "Run, you idiots!", lots of over-the-top craziness that knows it's over the top and crazy but doesn't care because it's fun to watch, then yes, see this movie. See it twice. I will. Due to the "weaknesses," the critical and intelligent part of me just can't, in good faith, give this an A, but for pure entertainment and a good time - and let's face it, that is the reason you watch a movie like this - it definitely earns it.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Nutterbutter

[Nutterbutter]

Eep, double post.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Nutterbutter

[Deep Wang]

It all works.  Every bit of it.

 

For you!

[baumer]

For you!

 

Duh.  

[kaijukurt]

Seriously, the T-Rex stepping out of the shadows is probably the biggest "HOLY SHIT!!!" blockbuster moment in recent years

[Yandereprime101189]

Honestly, this is the most fun I've ever had with a movie since the first Avengers. I loved every minute of this film and thought the action, dino attacks and special effects were all top notch.

 

As for product placement, I didn't spend my time counting it, so I can't really say on the amount of it in the movie. At this point, I've seen so much product placement in movies that I've sorta blocked it out. Only really noticed it recently in Transformers: Age of Extinction.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Yandereprime

[Yandereprime101189]

Seriously, the T-Rex stepping out of the shadows is probably the biggest "HOLY SHIT!!!" blockbuster moment in recent years

 

With GLOWING EYES

[Gazz]

There's a lot of fun in Jurassic World's individual moments and one very neat twist for the raptors but the film is strung together by filmmakers and writers who seem to be at odds over what type of film they're making. Trevorrow makes the same mistake as Bird did with Tomorrowland in that the final film ends up being the very thing they're criticising. For example, Trevorrow has one of the character's remark how corporate the park is in regards to product placement in a clear nudge-nudge-wink-wink about how corporate modern films have become, yet there are several moments of obvious product placement littered through the film. There are shots that entirely serve to sell a f**king car.

I also think Trevorrow utterly misses the tone of Spielberg's classic. Jurassic Park was about mining excitement out of the wonder of seeing something you've never seen before. World seems to be about drawing excitement from seeing those wonderful things either kill everything in sight or be killed. Sure there's the element of danger about Jurassic Park, and there are some gnarly death scenes, but it rarely comes across as cruel (the exception being the opening kill). World felt too cruel at times to me.

 

Also, the placement of the Jurassic Park theme bugged me. In Park it's saved for the new guests witnessing a living dinosaur for the first time. It's literally something they have never seen before (nor the audience seen realised in such a realistic way before). It's a moment of absolute wonder. With World it's used for a view of the parks busy main street, which very much resembles something of an exotic Disney World. It's the type of view seen on multiple adverts for theme parks. There's nothing wondrous about it at all. It's corporate. Fell very flat for me. 

I liked the stuff with the Raptors, though I can see the execution of them bugging a lot of fans. It's certainly a lot better than JP3 and despite my above issues there is some fun to be had. It just pales in comparison to the original and even The Lost World in my opinion.

Edited June 13, 2015 by Gazz