RED SPARROW | 03.02.18 | Fox | Jennifer Lawrence

[RobinHood26]

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Edited August 8, 2020 by RobinHood26

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, straggler said:

In the short term that film was never going to make money. It made $17 million US and $44 million WW as it is. I cannot imagine a platformed release doing any harm, and it would have avoided all the negativity that eliminated any awards consideration. This is the RS thread so I'll leave it here, but some films are just not box office films, and any slim chance that Mother! had to break through evaporated OW when the narrative was set. That is the whole idea of limiting a release. 

That's not how box office works. Had it opened in limited release, the toxic WOM would've spread quicker and killed any chances of it even reaching a $5M total.

[straggler]

10 minutes ago, filmlover said:

That's not how box office works. Had it opened in limited release, the toxic WOM would've spread quicker and killed any chances of it even reaching a $5M total.

To begin with there would have been no headlines about a F cinemascore and no headlines about a box office flop. And if it made $10 million as opposed to $17 million while avoiding the flop/failure narrative, it would be well worth the trade off. In fact it is precisely how box office works. This is exactly why studios every Oscar season do limited releases. Because the films need a chance to find an audience. And by trying to stear a film to an appropriate audience it avoids all that toxicity. Just look at the imdb audience score. It has plenty of 7-10 ratings but 10 percent gave it a one rating. Face it but studios today have to manage the flood of instant reactions, especially for films like Mother! Scorsese wrote his article because as he stated if Taxi Driver was released today it would have been faced with the same "toxic WOM", and gotten the same F score while people labeled it a flop. 

Edited February 17, 2018 by straggler

[WrathOfHan]

10 minutes ago, straggler said:

To begin with there would have been no headlines about a F cinemascore and no headlines about a box office flop. And if it made $10 million as opposed to $17 million while avoiding the flop/failure narrative, it would be well worth the trade off. In fact it is precisely how box office works. This is exactly why studios every Oscar season do limited releases. Because the films need a chance to find an audience. And by trying to stear a film to an appropriate audience it avoids all that toxicity. Just look at the imdb audience score. It has plenty of 7-10 ratings but 10 percent gave it a one rating. Face it but studios today have to manage the flood of instant reactions, especially for films like Mother! Scorsese wrote his article because as he stated if Taxi Driver was released today it would have been faced with the same "toxic WOM", and gotten the same F score while people labeled it a flop. 

It's clear this wasn't going anywhere with awards; critics were already split on it when it premiered at Venice and TIFF. A smaller box office wouldn't have helped whatsoever

Edited February 17, 2018 by WrathOfHan

[aabattery]

2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

It's clear this wasn't going anywhere with awards

 

[WrathOfHan]

Just now, aabattery said:

 

I mean, the only guild it hit was VES; that's not the makings of a strong contender  

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

I mean, the only guild it hit was VES; that's not the makings of a strong contender  

Don't worry, we'll give it the love it was wrongfully snubbed of. Oh wait...

[Eric Loves Rey]

2 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

OH MY LORD THAT GIF I'M CRYING RIGHT NOW

[Marcus Cato]

Some JLaw stans around here are still in denial about her fading stardom... she had a few great years, which most actors and actresses don't even dream of achieving. From now on she will do some smaller movies or indie films, and it's nothing wrong with that.

[WrathOfHan]

JLaw can easily be a draw if the film is GA appealing. This and mother! are basically the exact opposite of GA appealing and have/had somewhat misleading marketing.

[The Futurist]

It is tough to endure so much.

[CJohn]

18/52

[MovieMan89]

She will kill her career if she really goes on hiatus following mother and this. Maybe she’ll make some kind of comeback in her late 30s or something with an acclaimed award type of role, but it will be an uphill battle for her to get those kind of roles and she’ll likely never be a box office draw again. I highly advise against the hiatus before trying to get another mainstream hit or two.

[AJG]

JLaw needs to play villain. Taylor Swift Biopic, anyone?

[MrGlass2]

5 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I highly advise against the hiatus before trying to get another mainstream hit or two.

Like a X-Men movie perhaps?

Not sure what some people are smoking, but Jennifer Lawrence is one of the biggest stars in the world and it is not like Hollywood is producing many of those at the moment. So she can survive a few more atrocious flops (like Red Sparrow).

[TombRaider]

55 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

It is tough to endure so much.

What about passengers or x men? even those flopped. and the last THG underperformed

 

 

to be fair, which woman is a bigger box office darling than jlaw? literally no woman is a box office draw anymore in usa other than melissa M. , tragic.

Edited February 18, 2018 by TombRaider

[BXT]

31 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

She will kill her career if she really goes on hiatus following mother and this. Maybe she’ll make some kind of comeback in her late 30s or something with an acclaimed award type of role, but it will be an uphill battle for her to get those kind of roles and she’ll likely never be a box office draw again. I highly advise against the hiatus before trying to get another mainstream hit or two.

Most lead actors/actresses take a year or two off every now and then and it has no impact on their careers.

[WrathOfHan]

Doing Tarantino's movie would've squashed any complaints about fading awareness with the GA.

[Ryan Reynolds]

15/41

[filmlover]

4 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

She will kill her career if she really goes on hiatus following mother and this. Maybe she’ll make some kind of comeback in her late 30s or something with an acclaimed award type of role, but it will be an uphill battle for her to get those kind of roles and she’ll likely never be a box office draw again. I highly advise against the hiatus before trying to get another mainstream hit or two.

Overreacting about the state of her career much?