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SUICIDE SQUAD WEEKEND THREAD | New REVISED SUNDAY NUMBER 134m FROM GURU ON PG 212 | 267.1M WW OW | Nine Lives 6.5 OW |No Spoilers Allowed!!! | ACCOUNT SALES THIS WEEKEND - see first post for details !!

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2 minutes ago, UrosepsisFace said:

Just glanced at the last few pages, but let me see if I got this right in regards to SS?

 

1. Major drop incoming after free movie-ticket Friday.

2. Movie will still make more than 125 million opening weekend? When originally thought 98 was too much? Now considered a failure?

3. WB both fudged its income and decreased its true budget? How does this studio remain in business?

4. Movie still on target for over 200 million? Outside of Disney, this will be the first time any studio has a second 200+ million movie for this year? Two major studios have yet to cross this point, and likely will not, nor will any other studio again this year other than Disney and WB?

5. No matter what the situation, Suicide Squad will absolutely obliterate Star Trek Beyond (the top Paramount movie) which already has plans for a sequel.

 

Guys, keep in mind what picture you are painting here. Warner will become the second ranked studio based on its supposed failed DCEU franchise this year. What does this mean for Hollywood overall? Disney monopoly and more cartoons and talking animals if its best competitor seemingly can't make money off of its best grossers? Congrats!

 

Btw, everybody check out Train to Busan. This is actually a movie worth watching and much better than most of the American movies, other than Sing Street imo.

It's not the fact that SS won't be profitable (it will be) it's the future hole WB is digging themselves into by all these horridly received DCEU films. The interest for SS was huge, way bigger than it had any right to be, and now all it will have going for its box office run was a 100m+ OW when it could have been so much more. At some point the floor will give out here and the big OWs will stop for this franchise and then what? Cause lord knows they can't rely on legs. 

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7 minutes ago, mredman said:

And people are forgetting OLYMPICS. It officially started today. Friday was opening of it. We know you like to hate on BvS and SS and MoS. I know you are looking forward to WW though. But people have to look at OLYMPICS here

 

I'm sorry I must be behind.  I thought the company line from before Friday was that no one watches the Olympics.  Or at least no one in the main target demo of Suicide Squad.

 

I must have imagined all the posts that poo-pooed the possible effect of the Olympics, I guess. :)

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If you leave out the DC films, WB's hits this year have been from New Line Cinema, the summer films all have made a profit. 

 

I hope going forward, DC Films acts more like New Line Cinema where they have their own slate and budgets and WB just greenlights and distributes the films. 

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

I predicted this many weeks ago.  Board will hype itself up for something remarkable.  SS would deliver a great OW but underperform insane expectations.  Everyone would act like it's a bad number.

 

Rinse and repeat. :lol:

 

What do you say about those who predicted absurd OW numbers?

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24 minutes ago, mredman said:

of course the trolls are saying its a bad drop. But it was 20 previews, 45 friday, 35 saturday and these trolls are forgetting there is Olympics as well. This forum is on verge of becoming imdb infested by trolls

 

Lol.  

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5 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

I predicted this many weeks ago.  Board will hype itself up for something remarkable.  SS would deliver a great OW but underperform insane expectations.  Everyone would act like it's a bad number.

 

Rinse and repeat. :lol:

Your prediction would hold weight if SS didn't have a MASSIVE 65m+ OD. There's no universe in which that kind of OD yields a sub 130 OW without a disaster having happened WOM-wise. Especially outside of the YA genre no less. 

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13 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

So, can this movie still make 130 million for its opening weekend? If the drop is really that harsh, by the way.

 

I'm curious.

 

Needs to really recover on Sunday.  We're talking a sub-15% drop on Sunday, presuming a 35 Sat.

 

I mean, it's possible, as this is still the Summer.  But it's not something I would put a bet on.

 

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Obviously, the higher the Sat number, the better for SS.  A 38m Sat, for instance, only requires a sub-30% drop.

 

I personally think it will be close.  But mostly because I'm still thinking the high end of the mid-30s.  Plus I don't want to jinx my Casino bet. :P

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

I predicted this many weeks ago.  Board will hype itself up for something remarkable.  SS would deliver a great OW but underperform insane expectations.  Everyone would act like it's a bad number.

 

Rinse and repeat. :lol:

 

Might as well make that prediction next year too for Wonder Woman and Justice League. I've never seen such a thing, a studio continuously making 100+ million flops on its way to second place is considered a failure, when 1/3 of the big six don't have two 100m+ movies, and like 2/3 of the big six won't have two 200m+ movies. It's not as if RT has been kind to any studio or other blockbusters, nor does it seem uncommon for giant drops for every movie other than horror and animation. People, the giant exception of the year for RT has been Star Trek Beyond which the non-Disney blockbuster to receive that 80+%, which has a higher budget than Suicide Squad, and will not make as much money as X-Men Apocalypse and will suffer from consecutive 60% drops!

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Just now, MovieMan89 said:

Your prediction would hold weight if SS didn't have a MASSIVE 65m+ OD. There's no universe in which that kind of OD yields a sub 130 OW without a disaster having happened WOM-wise. Especially outside of the YA genre no less. 

 

Outside of the YA genre, not a sequel, extremely buzzy on social media

 

Historic Saturday drop

 

Everything's fine tho

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5 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Needs to really recover on Sunday.  We're talking a sub-15% drop on Sunday, presuming a 35 Sat.

 

I mean, it's possible, as this is still the Summer.  But it's not something I would put a bet on.

 

 

That seems reasonable. Thanks for your comment. :)

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Months ago, I thought $80m would be a solid OW for SS. This is a fantastic opening for it, although the internal multiplier looks very weak. Like MOS, it looks like it'll probably have a very impressive opening and weak legs. 

 

But who knows? All that's really certain right now is that there was an initial huge rush to see it. It's possible this is just the market correcting, and we all misread the signs.

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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Your prediction would hold weight if SS didn't have a MASSIVE 65m+ OD. There's no universe in which that kind of OD yields a sub 130 OW without a disaster having happened WOM-wise. Especially outside of the YA genre no less. 

 

I'm looking at the end result. Yeah it was a bad movie and yes it will have terrible legs. But a year ago most people wouldn't be thinking $125M/$250M total.   It was what, $80M OW and possibly $200M total?  So how can we sit here with a straight face and say it wasn't successful.

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