grey ghost Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 25 minutes ago, Blankments said: I’ll admit that I wasn’t in my best frame of mind last night. I was very tired and annoyed about being called into work. After getting some sleep, I can definitely say I’m a bit saner right now, and I want to apologize for my behavior last night. That said, I did come to a realization today. One that I must share. Cinema is dead. I know it might sound a bit theatrical, but it must be stated. No longer are films an artform; they have become solely a consumerist ideal, designed to make money while entertaining at the least values. That’s not to say there aren’t a few films here and there that slip through the crack striving to be art, but the issue is it’s a small crack they must slip through. This is due to the rise of platform releases. Take a look at these films. Hidden Figures. Jackie. La La Land. Silence. There is absolutely no reason these should be platform releases. The first is a star-studded retelling of a forgotten historical story. The second is Natalie Portman playing arguably the most famous first lady in our history. The third is a huge musical starring two of the biggest actors working. The final one is a Scorsese flick starring Spider-Man, Kylo Ren, and Liam Neeson. It is worth noting that the last two films are released by Lionsgate and Paramount, which makes their wide releases even more inexplicable. If Hacksaw Ridge or Arrival can get immediate wide releases, why do La La Land and Silence need to wait? Regardless, all four of these films would’ve gotten a wide release if they were released in the 90s or even the early 2000s. None of this blue-balling, “eh, maybe you’ll get it eventually, rural America” bullshit. The only things that get wide releases now are films with the “appearance” of quality. Look at what’s playing right now. Rogue One, big budget blockbuster. Sing, big CGI animation. Assassin’s Creed, big budget. Passengers, huge cast, huge visuals. All of these movies were greenlit with the intention of making 100M+ at the B.O. And that’s fine! Except that they’re taking screens from films that otherwise could catch on with the public. Yesterday I mentioned that I’m seeing Hamilton tomorrow. I am, and I’m looking forward to it. Unfortunately, film has started to take theatre’s worst aspects in mind. Limited availability leads to forced piracy. Plays and musicals have always been some of the most pirated works of art. There’s no coincidence that The Revenant, another film that inexplicably waited to have a wide release, is one of the most pirated films of the year. Same with American Sniper a couple years ago. There was NO reason these films had platform releases, and it’s bullshit. There’s a lot more I can get into about the evils of platform releases (I haven’t even touched the disturbing classist ideals they embody that subtly lead to the growing anti-intellectual movement in the U.S. which led to the election of a demagogue), but I think I can get into them later if you want. For now, all I got to say is cinema as an art form is dead, and if the Academy had any love for the art form, they should stop allowing platform releases to be eligible for the Academy Awards. I doubt that will ever happen and unfortunately that means one of the things I love and cherish most in this world, the finest art imaginable, will disappear in an horrible extinction. I bet if theaters in December and January allowed only Oscar bait for wide release, the studios and theaters would lose an obscene amount of money. Blockbusters bring in the huge crowds that keep the studios and theaters in the black. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So Haley Bennett is #9 top stars of 2016 @CJohn Margot Robbie is #1, in case anyone is lazy enough not to click on the link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Quote Thursday, December 29, 2016 <<Prev Day <Wk <Mo <Yr Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 >Yr >Mo >Wk >>Next Day TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 1 Rogue One.... BV $16,722,532 -7% -0% 4,157 $4,023 $375,378,705 14 2 2 Sing Uni. $15,039,855 -3% +57% 4,022 $3,739 $123,601,490 9 3 3 Passengers (2016) Sony $4,665,000 -1% +45% 3,478 $1,341 $45,300,201 9 4 4 Moana BV $4,160,213 -7% +62% 2,687 $1,548 $199,059,039 37 5 5 Why Him? Fox $2,741,984 -4% - 2,917 $940 $24,558,587 7 6 6 Assassin's Creed Fox $2,548,837 -4% -11% 2,970 $858 $31,043,518 9 7 7 La La Land LG/S $2,489,877 -0% +264% 741 $3,360 $24,715,199 21 8 8 Fences Par. $2,347,576 -4% +14,273% 2,233 $1,051 $19,702,144 14 10 10 Collateral Beauty WB (NL) $1,310,000 -1% +45% 3,028 $433 $21,641,500 14 9 9 Fantastic Beasts and ... WB $1,310,000 -2% +56% 1,966 $666 $220,020,251 42 11 11 Office Christmas Party Par. $1,058,311 -3% -19% 2,441 $434 $47,546,675 21 12 12 Manchester by the Sea RAtt. $1,029,716 -4% +52% 1,213 $849 $24,224,651 42 - - Dangal UTV $578,854 -8% +15% 331 $1,749 $7,124,519 9 - - Lion Wein. $485,883 +3% +781% 500 $972 $3,832,503 35 - - Jackie FoxS $420,603 -2% +62% 348 $1,209 $5,476,006 28 - - Arrival Par. $325,171 -4% -8% 456 $713 $90,832,332 49 - - Trolls Fox $256,278 +1% +102% 499 $514 $149,666,628 56 - - Doctor Strange BV $239,954 -2% -17% 538 $446 $229,461,310 56 - - Hidden Figures Fox $215,808 +8% - 25 $8,632 $1,466,395 5 Edited December 30, 2016 by terrestrial 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Deadline Hollywood @Deadline4 minutes ago ‘Same Kind Of Different As Me’ Exits Paramount Slate, Moves To Pure Flix With New Release Date http://deadline.com/2016/12/same-kind-of-different-as-me-release-date-pure-flix-1201877110?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So, about time to get the Dec. 30-Jan. 2 4-day weekend thread started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 34 minutes ago, PPZVGOS said: Excellent work! Thank you for this Mr President! But I will disagree with your analysis! I think it's WRONG! If anything, China's economy continues to be the fastest growing in the world and there is much more room for further urbanization. Yes, the years of 40% growth are definitely over, but growth will definitely resume at some stage, somewhere around 2018/19 would be my guess. BTW, according to the IMF estimates for 2016, the Chinese economy is at $11.4B (nominal) and $21.3B (PPP) so China has a higher PPP-to-nominal ratio than South Korea ($1.9B to $1.4B) That estimate might not be recent. They were expecting 6% growth in local currency, that would have bumped GDP to $11.4b however the yuan dropped 6% vs the dollar negating the gain(in dollars), making the YoY flat in international reporting. The ppp is high in china, however that's due to a high rural population with very low living expenses. They cannot go to the movies. SK is highly urban (access to theaters) with relatively low expenses to GDP giving them more disposable income(more money to spend on movies). Migration to cities is slowing and the "ghost cities" are having a hard time filling up. Japan had massive growth for 25 year and it went dead flat in 1990 as well as their box office. Been virtually flat ever since. Like all other major economies in history, China will (signs of it starting) experience a flattening of the curve and the box office has already caught up to the economy, so it will go as the economy goes, going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaballero Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Not going to lie, the Moana actual is a little disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk the Hutt Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, JB33 said: So, about time to get the Dec. 30-Jan. 2 4-day weekend thread started? Once we get some early Friday #s. This is pretty late, but there were no previews this week. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, elcaballero said: Not going to lie, the Moana actual is a little disappointing. In what Hell?? Everything on Thursday behaved normally - there is nothing disappointing about that number except for over inflated expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaballero Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, narniadis said: In what Hell?? Everything on Thursday behaved normally - there is nothing disappointing about that number except for over inflated expectations. Just that the estimate had it staying flat. I know that drops were expected. Sorry narniadis, I shouldn't have used "Moana" and "disappointing" in the same sentence. Edited December 30, 2016 by elcaballero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, JB33 said: So, about time to get the Dec. 30-Jan. 2 4-day weekend thread started? there has to be at first any form of information of wither 'out' members here in violet color or an article/tweet of an outlet that is BO spcialised (too) 1 minute ago, elcaballero said: Not going to lie, the Moana actual is a little disappointing. why? Domestic Box Office PerformanceNov 29, 2016Dec 6, 2016Dec 13, 2016Dec 20, 2016Dec 27, 2016$0$60,000,000$120,000,000$180,000,000$240,000,000 Chart Date values Nov 23, 2016 $15,519,234 Nov 24, 2016 $25,448,873 Nov 25, 2016 $47,241,881 Nov 26, 2016 $68,572,762 Nov 27, 2016 $82,080,274 Nov 28, 2016 $84,411,896 Nov 29, 2016 $87,593,183 Nov 30, 2016 $89,583,410 Dec 1, 2016 $91,515,330 Dec 2, 2016 $98,059,973 Dec 3, 2016 $111,020,030 Dec 4, 2016 $119,786,319 Dec 5, 2016 $121,205,700 Dec 6, 2016 $123,381,833 Dec 7, 2016 $124,772,054 Dec 8, 2016 $126,166,593 Dec 9, 2016 $130,372,515 Dec 10, 2016 $139,099,001 Dec 11, 2016 $144,700,397 Dec 12, 2016 $145,880,242 Dec 13, 2016 $147,643,785 Dec 14, 2016 $148,895,861 Dec 15, 2016 $150,194,745 Dec 16, 2016 $153,250,662 Dec 17, 2016 $158,522,225 Dec 18, 2016 $162,920,977 Dec 19, 2016 $165,271,804 Dec 20, 2016 $168,331,660 Dec 21, 2016 $170,457,987 Dec 22, 2016 $173,032,191 Dec 23, 2016 $175,964,789 Dec 24, 2016 $177,797,863 Dec 25, 2016 $180,745,458 Dec 26, 2016 $185,587,051 Dec 27, 2016 $190,431,447 Dec 28, 2016 $194,898,826 Dec 29, 2016 $199,059,039 The shaded area represents the expected performance range for a film, based on its opening wee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jayhawk said: Once we get some early Friday #s. This is pretty late, but there were no previews this week. Gotcha, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Quote dom 2016 Rank Movie Title (click to view) Studio Filter 25th Frame 26 Aries 5&2 A23 A24 AAE Abr. AD AEF AF Air Bud Alc Ampl. Anch. AR ArcEnt Argentum Argo. Artma BBC BG Bow and Arro Boxcar BSC BSM BST BV BWP Cartuna CAVU CineGalaxy Cinestaan CJ CL Cleopatra Cohen Col. Collective E Crnth CZ Dalton Distrib. Dreamwest Drft. DWOES EC EF Electric Elev. EOne EpicPics Eros ESX FB FCW FIP FM Focus Forewarned Fox FoxS FR Free FRun FUN Gaatri Gathr Gemelli GK Gold. Grasshopper Grav. GVN Ham Hann. HTR Icar. ICir IFC Imax INDEP Indic. Invincible Jampa Jan. JBG JSenko KL Leis. LG/S LGF LGP Libre LifeWay Lightyear Linn Little Flowe Long Shot Magn. MarVista Masters Mats. MBox MDL Men. Mirror Mon Mont. Moore MR MS NET Orch. ORF Orion Osci. Pala. Par. PFR PM&E PNT Purd. QF RAtt. Red Dirt Rel. Rela. Relbig. Rialto RM RME Saban Scre. SDS SGem Shad. Shout! Shrts. SkyI SM Sony SPC Strand STX TFA TFC Trans TriCoast TriS TUG UEP Uncork'd Uni. UTMW UTV Vanish Vanishing VE Vita. VPD W/Dim. WB WB (NL) Wein. WGUSA Wonder WOW WRA Yash YFG Zee Zeit. ALL Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Open Close 1 Finding Dory BV $486,295,561 4,305 $135,060,273 4,305 6/17 12/8 2 Captain America: Civil War BV $408,084,349 4,226 $179,139,142 4,226 5/6 9/22 3 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story BV $375,378,705 4,157 $155,081,681 4,157 12/16 - 4 The Secret Life of Pets Uni. $368,384,330 4,381 $104,352,905 4,370 7/8 - 5 The Jungle Book (2016) BV $364,001,123 4,144 $103,261,464 4,028 4/15 9/29 6 Deadpool Fox $363,070,709 3,856 $132,434,639 3,558 2/12 6/16 7 Zootopia BV $341,268,248 3,959 $75,063,401 3,827 3/4 8/4 8 Batman v Superman: DoJ WB $330,360,194 4,256 $166,007,347 4,242 3/25 6/16 9 Suicide Squad WB $325,100,054 4,255 $133,682,248 4,255 8/5 11/10 10 Doctor Strange BV $229,461,310 3,882 $85,058,311 3,882 11/4 - 11 Fantastic Beasts and ... WB $220,020,251 4,144 $74,403,387 4,144 11/18 - 12 Moana BV $199,059,039 3,875 $56,631,401 3,875 11/23 - 13 Jason Bourne Uni. $162,192,920 4,039 $59,215,365 4,026 7/29 10/27 ww 2016 Rank Title (click to view) Studio* Filter A24 BG BST BV EC Focus Fox FoxS Free HTR LG/S LGF ORF Par. PFR QF RAtt. Rela. SGem Sony SPC STX TriS Uni. VPD WB WB (NL) Wein. ALL Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % 1 Captain America: Civil War BV $1,153.3 $408.1 35.4% $745.2 64.6% 2 Finding Dory BV $1,027.8 $486.3 47.3% $541.5 52.7% 3 Zootopia BV $1,023.8 $341.3 33.3% $682.5 66.7% 4 The Jungle Book (2016) BV $966.6 $364.0 37.7% $602.5 62.3% 5 The Secret Life of Pets Uni. $875.5 $368.4 42.1% $507.1 57.9% 6 Batman v Superman: DoJ WB $873.3 $330.4 37.8% $542.9 62.2% 7 Deadpool Fox $783.1 $363.1 46.4% $420.0 53.6% 8 Fantastic Beasts and .... WB $748.8 $220.0 29.4% $528.8 70.6% 9 Suicide Squad WB $745.6 $325.1 43.6% $420.5 56.4% 10 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story BV $687.9 $375.4 54.6% $312.5 45.4% 11 Doctor Strange BV $657.0 $229.5 34.9% $427.5 65.1% 12 The Mermaid (Mei ren yu) Sony $553.8 $3.2 0.6% $550.6 99.4% Moana #21 for now 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Deadline Hollywood @Deadline4 minutes ago ‘Same Kind Of Different As Me’ Exits Paramount Slate, Moves To Pure Flix With New Release Date http://deadline.com/2016/12/same-kind-of-different-as-me-release-date-pure-flix-1201877110?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter … Paramount is seriously making me post two predictions for a movie in my countdown? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 You know, earlier I was comparing Rogue One with similar openings (TDK, Hunger Games, Hunger Games 2) but... Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Opening Weekend: $155,081,681 14-day total -- $375,378,705 Captain America: Civil War Opening Weekend: $179,139,142 14-day total -- $314,276,153 $24M lower opening... $61M ahead after only 14 days ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Jayhawk said: I've been hearing cinema is dead for as long as I can remember. I'm sure the same can be said our older members like Tele, Baumer, etc. And yet it's still kicking (though not without it's problems) I think understandable to say that it's in fairly bad shape. I'm barely over 30 but I've never been more underwhelmed by cinema than I am at the moment. On a storytelling level, film doesn't give me anything TV can't now do, and often much better. The death-rattle of the mid-budget, adult-oriented movie is a real shame. Pop culture now expects us to be excited for things that used to be aimed at teenagers. (EDIT: I know that all comes across as 'old man yells at cloud', but I assure you it's not said with any relish.) Edited December 30, 2016 by Hatebox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Quote “Rogue One” pulled in $17.3 million internationally on Thursday to reach $312.5 million, led by the U.K. with $57 million, Germany with $31.1 million, France with $26.7 million, Australia with $24.5 million, and Japan with $20.2 million. “Rogue One” will launch in China on Jan. 6.. ...“Rogue One” and “Sing” have propelled the overall domestic box office to a new yearly record, with tracking service comScore projecting a final number of $11.36 billion after passing the 2015 record of $11.14 billion on Dec. 28. That’s a year-to-year gain of 2%. http://variety.com/2016/film/news/rogue-one-box-office-2016-third-highest-grossing-1201950311/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, narniadis said: He was one of the best things about the film - at least he wasn't wasted like Whittaker and MadsM. Mads was wasted? He had some of the most powerful scenes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Why would pay 18 dollars to watch an adult drama when they an watch it on Netflix for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said: Paramount is seriously making me post two predictions for a movie in my countdown? ??? If its about a club or derby... I don't do the prediction games. If not... I still have no idea what you try to tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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