Weekend Thread (Dec-30-Jan 2nd) 3/4-day #s R1 49.5m/64.3m, Sing 42.8m/56.4m, Pass 16.15m/20.7m, Moana 10.97m/14.3m, WH 10.6m/13m, Fences 10m/12.7m

[The Panda]

37 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said:

So internationally Rogue one is doing what I thought it would do domestically. It's behaving with the same rationale that I thought it would here. Oh well at least I was sort of kind of somewhat right LOL

 

And is it really so-called embarrassing if Rogue1 only finishes with a billion dollars LOL. This is after all a spin-off of the main story.

 

 

I really doubt Disney is embarrassed about all the profit they're making.

[robertman2]

4 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly dissed and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

Dcasey?

@Grand Moff Tele

Edited January 2, 2017 by robertman2

[That One Girl]

5 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly disses and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

 

HELLO DCASEY.  LONG TIME NO SEE.

 

@Grand Moff Tele

[Noctis]

Let's not get into Potter VS Star Wars. 

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, robertman2 said:

Dcasey?

@Grand Moff Tele

 

100% chance.  Didn't even try to hide it this time.  "Ohmigod" was one of their past names .

[NCsoft]

31 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

TFA wasn't epic, it wasn't spectacular and it didn't have something special that something special that the highest grossing DOM film should have.

 

Hence the reason it became the first ever highest domestic grosser to not be nominated for BP at the Oscars, despite the Oscars having up to 10 BP slots now instead of 5. Even in the SW culture dominated America, deep inside I think they know.

[WrathOfHan]

5 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly dissed and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

[That One Girl]

This is the saltiest Potter fan since @Noctis.

[Noctis]

Just now, That One Guy said:

This is the saltiest Potter fan since @Noctis.

 

Me?

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, Noctis said:

 

Me?

 

yes  No, not at all!

[Mojoguy]

Hence the reason it became the first ever highest domestic grosser to not be nominated for BP at the Oscars, despite the Oscars having up to 10 BP slots now instead of 5. Even in the

SW culture dominated America, deep inside I think they know.

Thank god TFA wasn't nominated for BP, the undeserved praise would have never ended if it had.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Mojoguy

[Noctis]

3 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

yes  No, not at all!

 

Tsk tsk

[Eric Quinn]

12 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly disses and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

 

@Grand Moff Tele

 

[FantasticBeasts]

6 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly dissed and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

I couldn't agree more in everything you said. Wizarding World is at least a level up from everything Marvel has produced. Far more complex,sophisticated themes and truly incredible messages. People are always underestimating Harry Potter. Rowling has created a masterpiece that will go down in history as one of the best fantasy series ever.  

[Porthos]

12 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

 

I think it is more "perceived quality" in North America which made all the difference, TFA's perceived quality in other parts of the world varies greatly from here. How much people liked it seemed to basically depends on how strong the nostalgia factor of that specific market, in a way, people outside of NA may have a more objective view toward the quality of TFA. 

Don't underestimate the power of " The old SW that we loved is back", whether that is a true testament of quality, or just a collective regressive behavior in the name of nostalgia, I don't know.

 

I was unaware there was an objective standard toward the quality of movies.  

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, ohmigod2005 said:

STAR WARS SUCKS DICK. I WILL TAKE IT DOWN WITH ME NO MATTER WHAtXXBloOdYXWrIStsXX666xxx

 

The Phantom Meance is better than Shakespeare's work and Harry Potter movies combined. 

[YM!]

15 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Wow, so much wrong with this: 

1) this was not a non event in the US, plain and simple. This is Rowling we're talking about here, and the film is tracking to about 240 mil.

2) I damn hope you have never praised a marvel film or a Star Wars film in your life, to be honest, because civil war, and really almost every single marvel film, have been terrible films driven solely by action. Sorry that's what you wanted and didn't get. 

3) Fantastic Beasts, and the rest of the Wizarding World brand, is sophisticated and creative in ways your fave superhero brands or Star Wars franchise is/are not. Those are light entertainment made to sell toys. I could not for the life of me even begin to comprehend how Civil War and Rogue One were anything but cute, toy selling mindless action films. They're always the same and they only take some risks, if any. Fantastic Beasts has pretty great acting, a complex and compelling story, amazing, huge-scale production design, a beautiful score, great costume and lighting design...Disney franchises typically go for loud childish bombast or nothing. 

4) What Disney blockbusters have officially done is taken character away from film. The plot drives them and everyone cares about the characters because of what they do, even narrowing it down to how they move and what bad guys they defeat. A number of people on this forum obviously have been trained to not be able to sit through any form of cerebral/emotional/psychological character driven moments whatsoever, which again, are few and far between in franchises and branded entertainment today. Except in The Wizarding World. Which is why it's been shunned by so many tough acting 40+ year old man-babies

5) The films and books in Rowling's brand are about the only commercially viable piece of entertainment that gets dark, tragic, and takes risks, and says a lot, about war, murder, loss, coming of age, repression, discrimination, bigotry, Capitol punishment, depression, hatred, fear, losing innocence, education interference, political corruption, and spirituality, among many other things. Fantastic Beasts and Potter are some of the only effortlessly sophisticated, morally and thematically mature pieces of branded entertainment in Hollywood today, to a reasonable extent, and it absolutely pissess me off that they're constantly dissed and patronized by 30 year old man-babies who love to play with their Disney Store(TM) toys and eat that SW branded GoGurt and try to mask their far more infantile obsessions with Lamentations on how "stupid and kiddie Potter is" and how "Star Wars is so Shakespearean". Ohmygodshutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Shutthefuckup. Star Wars is so light in comparison and young skewing in comparison as well I don't know why I have to fight with these people. 

 

And of course, when patronization doesn't work, they just opaquely trash it (^you my friend) and continue to act like its a Transformers sequel or something, and it isn't the highest grossing franchise, highest selling book series, and second most expensive entertainment brand in the world with far more consistent critical acclaim than Star Wars or Middle Earth. Jesus, get over yourselves. 

What pissed him off? 

Edited January 2, 2017 by YourMother

[ohmigod2005]

Everything I said is true though, Star Wars is not good at all compared to a lot of modern entertainment 

[IronJimbo]

8 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

 

Hence the reason it became the first ever highest domestic grosser to not be nominated for BP at the Oscars, despite the Oscars having up to 10 BP slots now instead of 5. Even in the SW culture dominated America, deep inside I think they know.

But NCSoft, I thought the majority disagreed with me.

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, ohmigod2005 said:

Everything I said is true though, Star Wars is not good at all compared to a lot of modern entertainment 

 

Learn the definition of opinion Dcasey and get the fuck off of our site.  You're not welcome back here .