The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[el sid]

At least Ant-Man is now back on MT:

#1 JW2 27.3%
#2 TI2 24.4%
#3 TFP 10.3%
#4 Sicario2 5.8%
#5 Ant-Man and the Wasp 5.0%

[HouseOfTheSun]

Ant Man and the Wasp has entered the top 5 on MT

[Mojoguy]

Why are people worried about Ant?

It will appear on MT when it appears on MT.

[poweranimals]

People just don't want to be burned again after Solo.

[narniadis]

But the panic over this film on a holiday week with a mid-week opener no less is ridiculous. This is not a normal week as far as comparisons go and you can't treat it as such. 

[MrGlass2]

2018-07-04 16:00:00	832	The First Purge
2018-07-04 16:00:00	726	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom
2018-07-04 16:00:00	655	Incredibles 2
2018-07-04 16:00:00	337	Ant-Man and the Wasp
2018-07-04 16:00:00	272	Sicario Day of the Soldado
2018-07-04 16:00:00	188	Oceans 8
2018-07-04 16:00:00	151	Uncle Drew
2018-07-04 16:00:00	116	Tag (2018)
2018-07-04 16:00:00	99	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 3D
2018-07-04 16:00:00	79	Deadpool 2

[Nova]

30 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

2018-07-04 16:00:00	832	The First Purge
2018-07-04 16:00:00	726	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom
2018-07-04 16:00:00	655	Incredibles 2
2018-07-04 16:00:00	337	Ant-Man and the Wasp
2018-07-04 16:00:00	272	Sicario Day of the Soldado
2018-07-04 16:00:00	188	Oceans 8
2018-07-04 16:00:00	151	Uncle Drew
2018-07-04 16:00:00	116	Tag (2018)
2018-07-04 16:00:00	99	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 3D
2018-07-04 16:00:00	79	Deadpool 2

Deadpool 2 holding down the fort still. 

 

*I know no one cares. But that’s all I took from these numbers* 

[filmlover]

Ant-Man and the Wasp probably would've benefitted more had they actually broadened the scope from the first movie like they did with Thor: Ragnarok (which was clearly a much more distinctive outing than either of the previous two Thor movies) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. As it stands it's clearly looking to be a minor (lol) entry in the Marvel canon compared to their obvious big guns.

[MrGlass2]

AM2 first.

 

Updated by @akvalley: 2018-07-04 22:00:14 Central (Lock time Fridays 11:00:00)
BUY TIME	TICKETS	MOVIE TITLE
--------------------------------------------------
2018-07-04 21:00:00	691	The First Purge
2018-07-04 21:00:00	611	Ant-Man and the Wasp
2018-07-04 21:00:00	280	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom
2018-07-04 21:00:00	241	Incredibles 2
2018-07-04 21:00:00	140	Sicario Day of the Soldado
2018-07-04 21:00:00	67	Ant-Man and the Wasp 3D
2018-07-04 21:00:00	51	Uncle Drew
2018-07-04 21:00:00	50	Oceans 8
2018-07-04 21:00:00	40	Ant-Man and the Wasp The IMAX 2D Experience
2018-07-04 21:00:00	36	Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 3D
2018-07-04 21:00:00	34	Ant-Man and the Wasp An IMAX 3D Experience

[Thrylos 7]

20 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Ant-Man and the Wasp probably would've benefitted more had they actually broadened the scope from the first movie like they did with Thor: Ragnarok (which was clearly a much more distinctive outing than either of the previous two Thor movies) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. As it stands it's clearly looking to be a minor (lol) entry in the Marvel canon compared to their obvious big guns.

The thing is that it’s anothet CBM flavor and the sequel looks quite a bit bigger than the original and , when all is said and done, it’s worldwide box office take will compare very favorably with winter soldier  and maybe even Thor 3.

[The Panda]

42 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Ant-Man and the Wasp probably would've benefitted more had they actually broadened the scope from the first movie like they did with Thor: Ragnarok (which was clearly a much more distinctive outing than either of the previous two Thor movies) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. As it stands it's clearly looking to be a minor (lol) entry in the Marvel canon compared to their obvious big guns.

I do think that’s a good point.  How much of TWS bump was from being post Avengers/normal sequel bump, and how much of it comes from being apart of an extended universe.

 

The sequels that jumped the most had the most crossover with the universe as a whole

 

Ragnarok jumped much more than TDW and featured Hulk and other extended universe tie-ins

 

The highest grossing captain America movies scale based on amount of crossover 

 

Prior to Homecoming, Spidey was in danger of going under 200m DOM.  Homecoming had an Iron Man crossover

 

GOTG2 had a smaller increase over the first one compared to other sequels, no crossover in that one

 

Iron Man 3 is the one big exception, but it was the first follow up to the Avengers with the most popular hero (at the time).  Iron Man 2, however, decreased from the first as well, with only a fraction of extended universe stuff (but no real crossover)

 

Marvel has kind of been advertising this one as fairly isolated.  The Wasp is a new character, so I wouldn’t really count her as crossover.  

 

If crossovers is a big driving factor to build excitement then I could see its change from the original ant-Man being a little more muted compared to Ragnarok or TWS.

[Porthos]

Ant Man & The Wasp Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-1 Day and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	112	8258	10896	24.21%

 

Total Showings Added Today:              1 (1 non-reserved showing)

Total Seats Added Today:                  n/a

Total Seats Sold Today:                     347

 

.2287x as many tickets sold as Infinity War one day before the premiere.

.4449x as many tickets sold as Black Panther one day before the premiere.

.4449x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 one day before the premiere. 

.5408x as many tickets sold as Solo one day before the premiere. 

.6293x as many tickets sold as Jurassic World 2 one day before the premiere. 

 

===================

Detailed T-1 Day comps:

 

IW:

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	11	174	3625	15159	76.09%

Total Seats Sold That Day:          738

 

BP:

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	7	121	4597	10526	56.33%

Total Seats Sold That Day:          650

 

DP2:

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	166	10226	16155	36.70%

Total Seats Sold That Day:          835

 

Solo:

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	142	8575	13453	36.26%

Total Seats Sold That Day:          377

 

JW2

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	147	9523	13715	30.57%

Total Seats That Day:                 768

Edited July 5, 2018 by Porthos

[TalismanRing]

4 hours ago, Pandamia! said:

I do think that’s a good point.  How much of TWS bump was from being post Avengers/normal sequel bump, and how much of it comes from being apart of an extended universe.

 

The sequels that jumped the most had the most crossover with the universe as a whole

 

Ragnarok jumped much more than TDW and featured Hulk and other extended universe tie-ins

 

The highest grossing captain America movies scale based on amount of crossover 

 

Prior to Homecoming, Spidey was in danger of going under 200m DOM.  Homecoming had an Iron Man crossover

 

GOTG2 had a smaller increase over the first one compared to other sequels, no crossover in that one

 

Iron Man 3 is the one big exception, but it was the first follow up to the Avengers with the most popular hero (at the time).  Iron Man 2, however, decreased from the first as well, with only a fraction of extended universe stuff (but no real crossover)

 

Marvel has kind of been advertising this one as fairly isolated.  The Wasp is a new character, so I wouldn’t really count her as crossover.  

 

If crossovers is a big driving factor to build excitement then I could see its change from the original ant-Man being a little more muted compared to Ragnarok or TWS.

In addition to the post Avengers bump the overall not just o/w bumps also came  from having very good to excellent movies with the reviews to match - and by being better than their previous films.

 

TWS, THOR:R , SM:HC and yes IM3 are all better than their prior films.   Were new character interactions or supporting casts part of them being better and/or fresher?  Maybe - but IM2 had that (with the same BW and Fury that were there for TWS though not done nearly as well) and not IM3.  Yet IM3 was a much better movie and made far more money (though it was aided by the addition of 3D which made it adjusted higher even than IM1)

 

I think GOTG2 was better than GOTG but that wasn't the critical or audience consensus.  So while the o/w was about 50% higher the end total was about 18% higher (and less than 4% adjusted for inflation).

 

IM2 and TDW also had healthy o/w jumps of about 30%  but in the end IM2's total was slightly under IM1 (and almost 12% less adjusted) and TDW  with an added post Avengers bump finished just 14% ahead of of Thor 1 (less than 10% adjusted) because of lesser comparative quality not because they didn't have more universe tie ins (which IM2 had).

 

 

 

 

[TalismanRing]

AM&TW had an uncharacteristic Tues drop but a huge 85% Wed bump - even bigger than JW2's 82% bump though it till lags in overall sales.   

 

That just might be the out of the ordinary holiday week impacting when people are buying tickets and/or that it's also much more walk up driven like JW2

 

Fandango App	Monday	Tues	Wed
A Quiet Place	2177	4003	10,665
Blockers	504	1106	2931
Rampage	705	1508	4109
Truth Or Dare	385	760	2133
Super Troopers	2825	3447	6881
I Feel Pretty	871	1610	4423
Avengers: Infinity War	49836	54892	68,826
Overboard	84	409	1044
Breaking In	727	1204	2899
Life Of The Party	587	1310	3010
Deadpool 2	23134	28896	41,212
Show Dogs	6	128	369
Book Club	836	1599	3283
SW: Solo	13688	15855	28,533
Action Point	17	48	197
Upgrade	9	119	522
Adrift	63	308	1268
Oceans 8	3009	4372	11114
Hereditary	659	1178	3181
Hotel Artemis	26	166	520
Incredibles 2	20872	23430	39,337
Tag	314	660	1448
Jurassic World 2	9310	12761	23,266
Sicaro 2	788	1282	3403
Uncle Drew	274	473	1201
Antman & The Wasp	6613	5990	11,108

Edited July 5, 2018 by TalismanRing

[dxmatrixdt]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Rampage	705	1508	4109
Antman & The Wasp	6613	5990	11,108

Ant/Rampage = 96.6  

[dxmatrixdt]

cannot get a production budget on The Equalizer 2.  

The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 had a production budget of $100 million, was released 6/12/09, and its adjusted numbers are...

www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=takingofpelham09.htm&adjust_yr=2018&p=.htm

Jun 12–14	3	$28,699,400	-	3,074	-	$9,300	$28,699,400	1

[TalismanRing]

Just now, mathemetrics said:

cannot get a production budget on The Equalizer 2.  

The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 had a production budget of $100 million, was released 6/12/09, and its adjusted numbers are...

www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=takingofpelham09.htm&adjust_yr=2018&p=.htm

Jun 12–14	3	$28,699,400	-	3,074	-	$9,300	$28,699,400	1

Pelham had the then added large Travolta salary - also the train parts were rather expensive.   Equalizer is one star film on a physically smaller scale.

[el sid]

Ant-Man should lead Pulse very clearly now. Almost every sold ticket is an Ant-Man and the Wasp ticket. I tried to count them several times for 1 minute, didn't work, too many...

By the way I also saw several buyings for M: I 6 in California (not the first sold tickets for that movie of course but this time very regularly).

[WrathOfHan]

Tonight at my theater for Ant-Man:

 

6:00: 50/113

7:00 3D: 18/78

8:30: 0/124

9:00: 32/113

9:45: 0/67

10:00 3D: 0/78

Total: 100/573

 

The 8:30 and 9:45 shows were just added minutes ago.

 

Comps (all final sales unless noted😞

 

9% of Infinity War (23.2M) (15 shows)

20% of Black Panther (40.4M) (9 shows)

21% of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (31.1M) (10 shows)

24% of Deadpool 2 (30.1M) (8 shows)

25% of Solo (21.1M) (9 shows)

30% of Thor: Ragnarok (36.8M) (6 shows)

31% of Justice League (29.1M) (6 shows)

31% of Incredibles 2 (56.6M) (4 shows)

 

So far this looks pretty good given it'll be more walkup based.

[Rebeccas]

we might be seeing a trend towards walk-ups/day of tickets with moviepass these days. for movies that aren't insanely sold out like IW, people will probably try their luck same day with moviepass.