The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[The Fast and the Furiosa]

Yeah there aren’t to be any comps at this page for Joker sales. The frontloaded nature of the DC audience has me at a pause; we know they will show up in droves, but can it get others in the room?

[Porthos]

11 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

It 2 ain't CBM.

 

Hard R-rated fanboy property though.

11 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

 

How's first 2 days cume comp of Captain Marvel and Venom.

Don't have Venom numbers until T-2 (didn't track it until the last second).

 

Right now Joker is at 51.57% of Captain Marvel after two days (10.67m).  Which is probably a good enough comp.... Except CM had 59 days of pre-sales, so its comp will become very useless VERY quickly.

[Eric S'ennui]

Abominable Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	39	77	5,530	1.39%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 17

 

Comp

0.616x of Dora 1 day before release (770K)

1.878x of Racing in Rain 1 day before release (845K)

 

The comps are moving down to a pretty specific range of somewhere around 800K. FWIW, House with a Clock in its Walls and Smallfoot did 840K and 850K respectively last year, so that would still be okay for Abominable.

[charlie Jatinder]

11 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Hard R-rated fanboy property though.

Don't have Venom numbers until T-2 (didn't track it until the last second).

 

Right now Joker is at 51.57% of Captain Marvel after two days (10.67m).  Which is probably a good enough comp.... Except CM had 59 days of pre-sales, so its comp will become very useless VERY quickly.

I am not saying to simply continue CM comp or other CBMs. Just use the first two-three days. After that continue with T-x days thing.

[Eric S'ennui]

Joker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	88	906	18,455	4.91%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 126

 

Comp

0.918x of It: Chapter Two 8 days before release (9.64M)

 

Adjusted Comp

2.869x of Hobbs & Shaw 8 days before release (16.64M)

 

The jumps aren't as big as yesterday, but still very, very strong. As has been said before, we won't really know what to expect with Jokah until Sat/Sun rolls around, but things still seem decent for the time being.

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

I am not saying to simply continue CM comp or other CBMs. Just use the first two-three days. After that continue with T-x days thing.

I might throw in Captain Marvel, as its the best current comp I have, for a couple of days.  But that's about it.  I don't have the initial days for DP2 or BP (and I've retired BP from active comps anyway).  EG is a lol comp until the last day or two.  IW isn't as much of an lol comp, but just looking at it now (6.54m), it's still sorta lol-ly.

 

So not many options outside of CM, really.

[Eric S'ennui]

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-22 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	30	95	7,802	1.22%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 3

 

I was a bit excited that yesterday's results would lead to more interesting numbers. But alas...

 

Either way, still early to call anything.

[TalismanRing]

29 minutes ago, Porthos said:

I might throw in Captain Marvel, as its the best current comp I have, for a couple of days.  But that's about it.  I don't have the initial days for DP2 or BP (and I've retired BP from active comps anyway).  EG is a lol comp until the last day or two.  IW isn't as much of an lol comp, but just looking at it now (6.54m), it's still sorta lol-ly.

 

So not many options outside of CM, really.

Godzilla 2 was very front loaded in pre-sales so that might work.  Maybe Solo as well

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, TalismanRing said:

Godzilla 2 was very front loaded in pre-sales so that might work.  Maybe Solo as well

About to start my Joker comp for the day, but being KotM wasn't that front loaded on pre-sales. 

Was running at a 1:2 ratio against JW:FK for a long time. It just never took off at the end.

 

Solo was pretty front loaded, yes.  Which is why it's a pretty bad comp for Day Two IMO.  Right now a Solo comp comes to 4.17m after two days of pre-sales.  That's... less than ideal, IMO.  

 

On the other hand, KotM comps to 16.47m after two days or pre-sales.  Part of that was some theaters in town not selling it for the first couple of days. But doesn't tell the whole tale.

 

So, good ideas.  Just don't work out, I think.  I'll see what I come up with in about an hour or so after today's check.

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

This looks, well, not that promising. Having 80 more shows it barely outsold DP2. DC has a previews loaded audience than Marvel (or used to be before Infinity War). Still, not impressed. Though I am surprised with you not using first 3-5 days comp at this stage wiith other CBMs. From Sunday perhaps you can start T-x days comp.

Weren't Suicide Squad and BvS (the two movies with bad WoM and reviews) the only two DC movies that were really frontloaded for a CBM? Wonder woman and Shazam have a 9x IM and Justice League and Aquaman (which was also affected by being released right before Christmas) had ok 7x.

Edited September 26, 2019 by lorddemaxus

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Day 2 PS for Joker. Not a bad day.Sold 183 tickets.

 

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AMC Empire 25 Joker Previews
Imax:      35/303(430PM),     209/303(730PM),      65/303(1030PM)Total 309/909
Dolby:      88/225(400PM),     200/225(700PM),      95/225(1000PM)Total 383/675
Prime:      50/180(500PM),     124/180(800PM),      33/180(1100PM)Total 207/540
2D:       3/122(A10 410PM),       3/377(A13 415PM),       4/121(A15 420PM),       0/99(A11 440PM),       4/158(A6 450PM),       5/146(A7 510PM),
       2/145(A25 520PM),       4/309(A14 530PM),      14/144(A20 540PM),       6/134(A5 550PM),       6/309(A9 6PM),       8/121(A21 610PM),
       4/126(A3 620PM),      11/262(A17 630PM),       8/99(A16 640PM),      16/142(A19 650PM),      11/122(A10 710PM),      12/377(A13 715PM),
      11/121(A15 720PM),      11/99(A11 740PM),       5/158(A6 750PM),       4/146(A7 810PM),       7/145(A25 820PM),      14/309(A14 830PM),
       8/144(A20 840PM),       6/134(A5 850PM),       0/309(A9 9PM),       2/121(A21 910PM),       4/126(A3 920PM),      12/262(A17 930PM),
       8/99(A16 940PM),      11/142(A19 950PM),       3/122(A10 1010PM),       3/377(A13 1015PM),       2/121(A15 1020PM)
       0/99(A11 1040PM),       4/158(A6 1050PM),       2/146(A7 1110PM),       2/145(A25 1120PM),       1/309(A14 1020PM)
       8/144(A20 1140PM),       6/134(A5 1150PM),       0/309(A9 12AM)  Total 255/7692

Overall 1154/9816

 

Few other NYC area theaters I am tracking total tickets sold. Good numbers at 34th street for sure.

 

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AMC 34th St Joker Previews
Imax:250
Dolby:196
2d:98
Overall:544 (+69)

AMC Newport Center 11 Joker Previews
Total Tickets sold:     220

AMC Kips Bay 15 Joker Previews
Total Tickets sold:     294
AMC 19th St East Joker Previews
Total Tickets sold:     136

 

 

Started Tracking AMC Metreon in SF. Very good numbers for 2 days of PS.

 

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AMC Metreon 16 Joker Previews
Dolby:     267
Imax:     344
2D:      55
Total Tickets sold:666

 

 

3rd Day PS for Joker. Still quite good. Way higher than T-4 for IT2.

 

New York

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AMC Empire 25
Imax:      41/303(430PM),     221/303(730PM),      70/303(1030PM)Total 332/909
Dolby:     108/225(400PM),     208/225(700PM),     105/225(1000PM)Total 421/675
Prime:      62/180(500PM),     131/180(800PM),      38/180(1100PM)Total 231/540
2D:       3/122(A10 410PM),       3/377(A13 415PM),       4/121(A15 420PM),       0/99(A11 440PM),       4/158(A6 450PM),       5/146(A7 510PM),
       2/145(A25 520PM),       4/309(A14 530PM),      14/144(A20 540PM),       6/134(A5 550PM),       9/309(A9 6PM),       8/121(A21 610PM),
       4/126(A3 620PM),      13/262(A17 630PM),      13/99(A16 640PM),      18/142(A19 650PM),       8/122(A10 710PM),      12/377(A13 715PM),
      11/121(A15 720PM),      11/99(A11 740PM),       5/158(A6 750PM),       7/146(A7 810PM),       8/145(A25 820PM),      16/309(A14 830PM),
       8/144(A20 840PM),       6/134(A5 850PM),       4/309(A9 9PM),       2/121(A21 910PM),       4/126(A3 920PM),      12/262(A17 930PM),
       8/99(A16 940PM),      16/142(A19 950PM),       3/122(A10 1010PM),       3/377(A13 1015PM),       2/121(A15 1020PM)
       0/99(A11 1040PM),       4/158(A6 1050PM),       2/146(A7 1110PM),       2/145(A25 1120PM),       1/309(A14 1020PM)
       8/144(A20 1140PM),       6/134(A5 1150PM),       0/309(A9 12AM)  Total 279/7692

Overall 1263/9816 (+109)

AMC 34th St
Imax:265
Dolby:217
2d:115
Overall:597 (+53)

 

AMC Newport Center 11
Total Tickets sold:     287 (+67)

 

AMC Kips Bay 15
Total Tickets sold:     341 (+47)

AMC 19th St East
Total Tickets sold:     156 (+20)

 

SF

 

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AMC Metreon 16
Dolby:     303
Imax:     361
2D:      69
Total Tickets sold:733 (+67)

 

AMC Bay Street SF
Imax:      72
Dolby:     222
2D:      23
Total Tickets Sold:317

 

AMC Saratoga 14
Imax:      47
Dolby:     132
2D:      10
Total Tickets Sold:189

 

AMC Mercado 20
Dolby:     281

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

21 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Weren't Suicide Squad and BvS (the two movies with bad WoM and reviews) the only two DC movies that were really frontloaded for a CBM? Wonder woman and Shazam have a 9x IM and Justice League and Aquaman (which was also affected by being released right before Christmas) had ok 7x.

look for previews to opening day multipliers. Weekend is much wider.

[FlashMaster659]

Joker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-8 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	% Sold
TOTALS	0	163	2401	39358	36957	6.10%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 266

[Cap]

Joker
Theater	Today		9/23	9/25	Total	%		SOs	Tele SOs	Shows
SM Cinemagic	21		14	35	2290	1.52%		0	0	16
Lincoln Square 13	230		1082	1312	5819	22.54%		0	2	17

 

Good update for LS13.  The 7PMs for the IMAX and Dolby are front 2 rows.  

 

Cinemagic's IMAX screen picked up some seats.  Everything else at Cinemagic is dead.

[Porthos]

Joker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-8 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	199	23346	24361	1015	4.17%

 

Total Showings Removed Today	1
Total Seats Removed Today	87
Total Seats Sold Today	138

 

T-8 Comps (still somewhat lol at this stage - don't take very seriously)

	%		Sold T-8	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
It 2	70.29		140	1444		0/159	17743/17743	7.53%		7.38m

PRE-SALES NOTE: It 2 had 36 days of pre-sales while joker had 11. 

 

T-8 Adjusted Comps (still somewhat lol at this stage - don't take very seriously)

	%		Sold T-8	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
DP2	29.42		152	3215		0/121	10252/13467	23.87%		5.47m
Joker (adj)	n/a		120	946		0/199	23571/24448	4.82%		n/a

PRE-SALES NOTE: Deadpool 2 had 30 days of pre-sales, while Joker had 11.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: Joker (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Deadpool 2.

 

Day 3 Adjusted Comp by request (lol at this stage[???] - perhaps don't take very seriously)

	%		Sold Day 3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	54.45		160	1853		0/81	8755/10608	17.47%		11.27m
Joker (adj)	n/a		138	1009		0/199	21156/22165	4.55%		n/a

PRE-SALES NOTE: Captain Marvel had 59 days of pre-sales, while Joker had 11.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: Joker (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel.

 

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Not quite as good a day as I would have liked to see if I wanted Joker to do well, and certainly still pacing behind Philly.  Did gain ground on both It 2 and DP2 though.  Also put too much ground on CM, I think. About now is when the 59 days of pre-sales will rear its head.  But it was asked for, so I gave it.  Might also throw it in tomorrow as well, but that's about it.  Posted it more for curiosity than anything else.

 

Overall, I think "decent to good" works.  But certainly isn't exploding locally.  Yet at least.  Still, as I said, can't really draw many conclusions until Sat/Sun and I'm sticking with that.

[romeross]

2 hours ago, Eric! said:

Abominable Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	39	77	5,530	1.39%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 17

 

Comp

0.616x of Dora 1 day before release (770K)

1.878x of Racing in Rain 1 day before release (845K)

 

The comps are moving down to a pretty specific range of somewhere around 800K. FWIW, House with a Clock in its Walls and Smallfoot did 840K and 850K respectively last year, so that would still be okay for Abominable.

Weak sales. Interestingly "Abominable" will receive 20 mill in OW

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

Good update for LS13.  The 7PMs for the IMAX and Dolby are front 2 rows.  

 

Cinemagic's IMAX screen picked up some seats.  Everything else at Cinemagic is dead.

Probably still too early to really say, and as you've pointed out on many occasion Cinemagic is usually weak on pre-sales until closer to release, but the difference between Cinemagic and LS13 does make me wonder if this notion that @cdsacken had of Joker having something of a disparate run has some substance to it.

 

Kinda reminds me of Aladdin in a strange way, which was another recent movie which seemed to do gangbusters in some parts of the country but not so hot in others when we were tracking pre-sales.

 

I've said I'm loathe to draw too many conclusions on so little sale days, and I stand by that.  But I can't shake the feeling that it's just odd for Sacto to be pacing behind what CoolEric tracks in Philly and apparently what FlashMaster659 is tracking in Imperial County.

 

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Bringing it back to your theaters, the PLF nature of LS13 is something to consider, of course.  Especially since it has Dolby (and we in Sacto don't).

 

Just did a check on my sheet, and PLF priced seats accounts for 20% of all sales in Sacto.  If I throw in the Cinema West Giant Screens (which are NOT set at PLF pricing for Joker), it rises to 27%.  That's pretty high for an hard-R rated film that isn't an action spectacle.

 

All stuff for me to keep in mind, I suppose, as Joker numbers continue to come in, both locally and from other trackers.

[Menor the Destroyer]

Joker Thursday:

Theaters: 257

Showings (adj): 2949 (0.85x TLK at the same point)

Seats Sold (adj): 16194 (0.27x TLK at the same point)

Seats Available (adj): 433389 (0.99x TLK at the same point)

Estimated ATP: 12.84

Estimated Sales: 232506 (0.30x TLK at the same point) 

Estimated Nationwide Sales: 2 million

 

This seems ok, I guess. I know TLK isn't really the best comp but I do have a detailed track for it beyond release week which I don't have for most films, so I'm gonna use it for now. For now I'm thinking it might go for 8-10 million.

 

Joker Friday:

Theaters: 257

Showings (adj): 2496 (0.44x TLK at the same point)

Seats Sold (adj): 11879 (0.20x TLK at the same point)

Seats Sold (unadj): 13273 (0.54x Downton Abbey at the same point)

Seats Available (adj): 449079 (0.57x TLK at the same point)

Estimated ATP: 12.22

Estimated Sales (adj): 145164 (0.21x TLK at the same point)

Estimated Nationwide Sales: 1.2 million

 

This, on the other hand, I find slightly concerning. Seems like it could be a frontloaded weekend. 

 

*(adj) was introduced since the number of Cinemarks with reserved seating has grown quite a bit since TLK.

 

[DCfanboy4Life]

I’d like to get in on the action for joker! What do I need to do to keep you guys updated on my city 

[DCfanboy4Life]

Bear in mind people don’t usually get paid till next week!!