The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Eric the IF]

23 hours ago, Eric is Full of Pride said:

Black Widow Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	80	1850	16722	11.06%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 83

 

Comp

0.477x of Godzilla vs. Kong's Final Count (4.63M)

2.074x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-14 Before Release (20.13M)

0.940x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu Final Count (4.51M)

0.357x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri Final Count (6.92M)

Black Widow Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	80	1914	16722	11.45%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 64

 

Comp

0.494x of Godzilla vs. Kong's Final Count (4.79M)

1.983x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-13 Before Release (19.25M)

0.973x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu Final Count (4.67M)

0.370x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri Final Count (7.16M)

2.438x of F9 T-13 Before Release (17.31M)

[charlie Jatinder]

MTC 1 suggests $19-20M.

Edited June 26, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Menor the Destroyer]

After the latest run its 270445 at MTC2. Probably it will break 300k by the end. 19-20 seems like a decent range, I will stick with 19. 

Edited June 26, 2021 by Menor

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

F9 gets a B+ cinemascore

[Porthos]

On 6/24/2021 at 10:54 PM, Porthos said:

 

Black Widow Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	117	16647	19134	2487	13.00%

 

Total Seats Today

106

 

2.6599x the tickets that F9 sold at the same theaters at T-14 [2487 vs 935].

Black Widow has had 4 more days of ticket sales than F9 has had at this point in the track.

No other official comps at the moment.

 

Black Widow Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	117	16570	19134	2564	13.40%

 

Total Seats Today

77

 

T-13 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	260.83		48	983		0/79	11432/12415	7.92%		18.52

 

T-13 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
AQP II (adj)	468.77		31	538		5/65	2359/2897	18.57%		22.5m
BW (adj)	---		74	2522		0/117	16492/19014	13.26%		---

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE 1:  AQP II (adj) is the amount of seats sold after the theaters which currently have unreliable data polluting their seat maps have been removed.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE 2: BW (adj) is the amount of seats sold without DBOX seats counted which started to be tracked with F9's track.

Edited June 26, 2021 by Porthos

[katnisscinnaplex]

17 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

 

Movie	Day	City	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
Black Widow	T-13	Jacksonville	6	57	9,723	667	34	6.86%
		Phoenix	6	51	8,670	797	44	9.19%
		Raleigh	7	44	5,481	828	65	15.11%
Black Widow Total			19	152	23,874	2,292	143	9.60%
The Boss Baby 2	T-6	Jacksonville	5	25	2,736	16	6	0.58%
		Phoenix	6	20	2,558	7	4	0.27%
		Raleigh	7	20	1,752	16	-4	0.91%
The Boss Baby 2 Total			18	65	7,046	39	6	0.55%
The Forever Purge	T-6	Jacksonville	5	12	1,978	4	0	0.20%
		Phoenix	5	10	1,168	4	0	0.34%
		Raleigh	7	12	1,262	6	2	0.48%
The Forever Purge Total			17	34	4,408	14	2	0.32%
Grand Total			20	251	35,328	2,345	151	6.64

 

Movie	Day	City	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
Black Widow	T-12	Jacksonville	6	57	9,723	683	16	7.02%
		Phoenix	6	51	8,670	842	45	9.71%
		Raleigh	7	44	5,481	859	31	15.67%
Black Widow Total			19	152	23,874	2,384	92	9.99%
The Boss Baby 2	T-5	Jacksonville	5	25	2,736	23	7	0.84%
		Phoenix	6	20	2,558	7	0	0.27%
		Raleigh	7	20	1,752	18	2	1.03%
The Boss Baby 2 Total			18	65	7,046	48	9	0.68%
The Forever Purge	T-5	Jacksonville	5	12	1,978	10	6	0.51%
		Phoenix	5	10	1,168	8	4	0.68%
		Raleigh	7	12	1,262	7	1	0.55%
The Forever Purge Total			17	34	4,408	25	11	0.57%
Grand Total			20	251	35,328	2,457	112	6.95%

 

BW compared to F9

 

F9 T-12 

Jacksonvile - 185 (3.692x)

Phoenix - 252 (3.341x)

Raleigh - 266 (3.229x)

 

Boss Baby compared to Peter Rabbit 2

 

PR2 T-5

Jacksonville - 23

Phoenix - 16

Raleigh - 4

[titanic2187]

15 hours ago, Menor said:

After the latest run its 270445 at MTC2. Probably it will break 300k by the end. 19-20 seems like a decent range, I will stick with 19. 

Seem like there is a trend now. Both AQP2 and F9 preview was surprisingly skewing to MTC chain but true friday turns out the other way. 

[Menor the Destroyer]

4 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Seem like there is a trend now. Both AQP2 and F9 preview was surprisingly skewing to MTC chain but true friday turns out the other way. 

Yeah, this was even more so than AQP2. The final run was 302178. Even a straight comparison with AQP2 would have given 21.3, and since F9 had been overindexing at MTC2 I adjusted down.

[Porthos]

48 minutes ago, Menor said:

Yeah, this was even more so than AQP2. The final run was 302178. Even a straight comparison with AQP2 would have given 21.3, and since F9 had been overindexing at MTC2 I adjusted down.

 

Smaller chains being disproportionately closed on Thr/not have previews, maybe?  Or just not having the screen capacity to put in many preview showings on Thursdays since they still have holdovers to deal with?

Edited June 26, 2021 by Porthos

[Menor the Destroyer]

20 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Smaller chains being disproportionately closed on Thr/not have previews, maybe?  Or just not having the screen capacity to put in many preview showings on Thursdays since they still have holdovers to deal with?

Maybe, I would have thought this was true pre-pandemic as well, but the effect seems much stronger now.

[Inceptionzq]

On 6/24/2021 at 1:48 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Black Widow Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

349

1980

17.63%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

368

1939

18.98%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1643	59	21278	7.72%	15	112
$150 PWPs:	2
$200 PWPs:	0
$250 PWPs:	0
$300 PWPs:	0
Total	2

 

TLK final count comp: 4.19M; adjusted: 3.39M

TRoS final count comp: 3.88M; adjusted: 3.35M

Black Widow Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

365

1980

18.43%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

390

1939

20.11%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 2 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1773	130	21611	8.20%	15	116

 

F9 comp: 22.89M

 

Decided to lob off the final count comps, especially with previews seemingly becoming more MTC heavy than before. And the PWPs were a non-factor for F9, at least for previews, so I won't worry about tracking those anymore. Might bring in a regular Lion King comp later on, but again, pre-pandemic vs now could be too different. 

[Inceptionzq]

On 6/24/2021 at 1:59 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Black Widow Megaplex

 

T-14 days Thursday: 2030(+57)/21439 in 14 theaters. $28,420 with $14 ATP

 

T-15 days Friday: 1235(+47)/36370 in 14 theaters. $16,673 with $13.50 ATP

Black Widow Megaplex

 

T-12 days Thursday: 2213(+183)/21439 in 14 theaters. $30,982 with $14 ATP

 

T-13 days Friday: 1449(+214)/36370 in 14 theaters. $19,562 with $13.50 ATP

 

Keep in mind, this is 2 days of data.

[keysersoze123]

Black Widow(T-12)

MTC1 - 66333/462524 994450.00 2395 shows. 

 

Really solid. This will have a huge OW. Only question is how much would the same day streaming would limit walk ups that F9 saw. Only time will tell. 

 

On F9 saturday its at 203.4K at noon and so its headed for a tiny increase MINUS previews today. I like the MTC share seen yesterday and it should drop even more today. I wont be surprised by even 75m OW but let us see where the saturday ends up at. 

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, Menor said:

Maybe, I would have thought this was true pre-pandemic as well, but the effect seems much stronger now.

 

Well, depends on which theaters are still open/closed/capped, right?  Especially capping.  Like, take Studio Movie Grill.  Poking about, they're still capping at 50% even in places where restrictions are lifted like Cali.  If they used to be able to absorb more customers on preview night, they might sell out some shows, but still have some available seats.  Or at least sell more seats before all their shows sell out. But if they're capping and someone really wants to go to a SMG, you still have overflow into the weekend.  It's something I've been noting with our local SMG where I saw sporadic sellouts into Saturday.

 

Other theater chains which are still capping (like, Cinema West) might be running into this, especially if the MTCs aren't.  Having a capped chain versus a non capped chain will naturally lead to a disparity, I think.

 

As for why this doesn't show up as much on Fri/Sat?  More screen slots to try to absorb seat lost to caps.  I reckon the 7pm start time also had something to do with it if the smaller chains didn't want to have (m)any post 10pm showings.  I saw that Cinemark went kinda crazy on post 11pm showings locally, for instance (so much so that they cut back when they realized they overbooked).

[charlie Jatinder]

6 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

I like the MTC share seen yesterday and it should drop even more today

MTC 1 was 23.6% while MTC 2 was 14.4%.

 

That's about normal pre-COVID ratios adjusted for 5% of missing Canada, with MTC 2 overindexing +1% approx.

 

If we are in normalcy, MTC 2 ratio will increase a bit but MTC 1 will stay a bit even. Though missing Canada may alter that again. 

 

Thanks for BW #s. If you get time, will love to see FRI and SAT #s.

Edited June 27, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Eric the IF]

On 6/25/2021 at 10:25 PM, Eric is Full of Pride said:

Black Widow Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	80	1914	16722	11.45%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 64

 

Comp

0.494x of Godzilla vs. Kong's Final Count (4.79M)

1.983x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-13 Before Release (19.25M)

0.973x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu Final Count (4.67M)

0.370x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri Final Count (7.16M)

2.438x of F9 T-13 Before Release (17.31M)

Black Widow Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-12 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	80	2024	16722	12.10%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 110

 

Comp

2.040x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-12 Before Release (19.80M)

2.392x of F9 T-12 Before Release (16.99M)

 

Think I'm just gonna scrap the final count stuff. Seems pretty pointless at this stage of the game. Things are looking very well here.

[keysersoze123]

F9 saturday MTC1 - 376791/1226847 3874542.00 7115 shows

 

F9 did not grow as much as what I thought was possible. It dropped from friday minus previews in $ sense. But MTC ratio will be lower. Still I expect a 5% drop or so. So around 22m saturday. 

 

Also looked BW Friday PS and its still down from previews PS. 

 

BW Friday PS MTC1 - 46290/775727 639239.00 3863 shows.

 

Still awesome as there are 12 more days of PS left for OD. 

[charlie Jatinder]

 

Edited June 27, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Legion Again]

15 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

 

Liking that slope 👀

[keysersoze123]

@charlie Jatinder

 

BW Saturday PS - 30288/818865 374629.00 4061 shows. 

 

Good growth over past week.