The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Joyous Legion]

The screen space scramble on wss's third wknd is going to be insane. Just when you would want holiday legs to be kicking in

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Yeah, if during Christmas Spiderman, Matrix, Kingsmen, Sing 2, Licorice Pizza are all over 2000 theaters, that leaves little space for West Side Story, Journal for Jordan (lol), Nightmare Alley (supposedly wide, too) and American Underdog (another lol)

[Eric is Anxious]

As I said before, West Side Story can't spawn a franchise or be easily turned into a theme park ride, so Disney will just let it die. It's sad, but you all know I'm right. 

[filmlover]

5 minutes ago, Eternal Legion said:

The screen space scramble on wss's third wknd is going to be insane. Just when you would want holiday legs to be kicking in

At smaller theaters yeah but at multiplexes it should hold on just fine (unless it completely flops and somehow opens to less than Dear Evan Hansen two weeks prior). Spider-Man, The Matrix, Sing 2, and maybe The King's Man are the only movies that would require more than one screen, while Nightmare Alley, American Underdog, and A Journal for Jordan will likely be content with just a single screen everywhere (especially when they fall under the same "audience for these movies isn't coming back to theaters" umbrella) and everything from November will be on the way out regardless. We'll see if they go through with that plan to expand Licorice Pizza to 2,000 theaters, I doubt they will.

[Joyous Legion]

4 minutes ago, Eric the Big Red Dog said:

As I said before, West Side Story can't spawn a franchise or be easily turned into a theme park ride, so Disney will just let it die. It's sad, but you all know I'm right. 

Serious question: what do you have in mind that look like not "letting it die." Cause I think it's going to die but I feel like the issue lies more with the greenlight (plus some unfortunate actor luck) than release decisions per se.

[filmlover]

Mentioned this in the Oscar thread a few weeks ago but unless Ansel's accuser (or others) comes back to press charges, and that seems unlikely, his controversy (which was barely reported on in the press when it happened due to the dubious nature in which the accusations were dropped) is unlikely to impact the movie in any way. In this day and age when there's actual craziness going on in the world it's hard for tabloid scandals to really stick. Doesn't seem to have impacted his hireability (certainly not when compared to all the other people this year who were dropped by everyone following scandals) since he's been busy shooting the Michael Mann HBO Max show. 

 

As it stands, WSS' biggest problems are that the primary audience for it isn't coming back to theaters and young crowds are unlikely to care for an adaptation/remake of a Romeo & Juliet-inspired musical about singing and dancing gangs with little starpower (Ansel's the closest thing to a name among the main actors but he's hardly an A-lister while everyone else doesn't have many credits that would make them familiar to the general public), even with the hook of one of our greatest living directors tackling such an iconic title.

Edited November 16, 2021 by filmlover

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	117	16554	17549	995	5.67%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

75

 

T-4 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
TSS	132.49		141	751		0/87	14373/15124	4.97%		5.43m
SC	41.35		261	2406		0/113	15205/17611	13.66%		3.64m
V2	40.43		453	2461		0/183	26301/28762	8.56%		4.69m
NTTD	58.43		157	1703		0/145	20757/22460	6.89%		3.62m

 

T-4 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	51.99		200	1806		0/89	11678/13484	13.39%		3.87m
GA (adj)	---		72	939		0/101	14260/15199	6.18%		---

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: GA (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in F9's track.

 

Regal:     233/6523 [3.57% sold] [+25 tickets]

Matinee:   48/1984 [2.42% | 4.82% of all tickets sold]

 

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-3 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	153	19354	20531	1177	5.73%

 

Total Showings Added Today	36
Total Seats Added Today	2982
Total Seats Sold Today	182

 

T-3 Unadjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
TSS	131.51		144	895		0/100	15314/16209	5.52%		5.39m
SC	42.94		335	2741		0/156	19111/21852	12.54%		3.78m
V2	38.76		576	3037		0/216	28173/31210	9.73%		4.50m
NTTD	62.57		178	1881		0/157	21272/23153	8.12%		3.88m

 

T-3 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	53.32		257	2063		0/122	15198/17261	13.39%		3.96m
GA (adj)	---		161	1100		0/132	16569/17669	6.23%		---

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: GA (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps in this point in F9's track.

 

Regal:     277/7153 [3.87% sold] [+44 tickets]

Matinee:   57/2173 [2.62% | 4.84% of all tickets sold]

[TwoMisfits]

The TMobile deal for Ghostbusters is a $4 ticket to any showing on Atom, so the expensive showings should have the biggest bump today...

[WrathOfHan]

Multiplexes aren't going to have issues with WSS' screen space. Any 12plex+ is going to keep it, and LP/Journal for Jordan/Nightmare Alley's TCs are going to be on the lower end for Christmas releases which will let smaller theaters keep WSS. If anything, the onslaught of releases hurts Sing and Matrix's screen space vs NWH.

 

Edited November 16, 2021 by WrathOfHan

[katnisscinnaplex]

23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-12	Sing 2 (11/27)	Jacksonville	3	3	295	48	4	16.27%
		Phoenix	5	5	764	76	14	9.95%
		Raleigh	5	5	639	125	12	19.56%
	Sing 2 (11/27) Total		13	13	1,698	249	30	14.66%
T-2	Ghostbusters (Wed)	Jacksonville	2	2	558	35	18	6.27%
	Ghostbusters (Wed) Total		2	2	558	35	18	6.27%
T-3	Ghostbusters	Jacksonville	7	55	8,930	269	41	3.01%
		Phoenix	7	31	4,980	374	38	7.51%
		Raleigh	8	32	4,532	272	33	6.00%
	Ghostbusters Total		22	118	18,442	915	112	4.96%
T-4	King Richard (Friday)	Jacksonville	6	22	3,181	27	7	0.85%
		Phoenix	6	17	2,631	24	2	0.91%
		Raleigh	7	26	3,371	30	2	0.89%
	King Richard (Friday) Total		19	65	9,183	81	11	0.88%
T-8	House of Gucci (Tue)	Jacksonville	6	13	2,370	20	2	0.84%
		Phoenix	6	8	1,013	10	3	0.99%
		Raleigh	7	7	865	20	8	2.31%
	House of Gucci (Tue) Total		19	28	4,248	50	13	1.18%

 

Ghostbusters comps

TSS - 1.483x (6.08m)

Dune - .776x (3.96m)

F9 - .632x (4.49m)

Missed NTTD T-3

 

King Richard comps

Respect - 1.53x (993k)

Reminiscence - 3.375x (2.3m)

 

Gucci comps

Respect - 1.429 (929k)

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-1	Ghostbusters (Wed)	Jacksonville	2	2	558	44	9	7.89%
	Ghostbusters (Wed) Total		2	2	558	44	9	7.89%
T-11	Sing 2 (11/27)	Jacksonville	3	3	295	46	-2	15.59%
		Phoenix	5	5	764	81	5	10.60%
		Raleigh	5	5	639	141	16	22.07%
	Sing 2 (11/27) Total		13	13	1,698	268	19	15.78%
T-2	Ghostbusters	Jacksonville	7	55	8,930	317	48	3.55%
		Phoenix	7	39	6,582	443	69	6.73%
		Raleigh	8	36	4,886	331	59	6.77%
	Ghostbusters Total		22	130	20,398	1,091	176	5.35%
T-3	King Richard (Friday)	Jacksonville	6	22	3,181	64	37	2.01%
		Phoenix	6	18	2,823	25	1	0.89%
		Raleigh	7	34	4,098	57	27	1.39%
	King Richard (Friday) Total		19	74	10,102	146	65	1.45%
T-7	House of Gucci (Tue)	Jacksonville	6	13	2,370	26	6	1.10%
		Phoenix	6	9	1,060	9	-1	0.85%
		Raleigh	7	7	865	27	7	3.12%
	House of Gucci (Tue) Total		19	29	4,295	62	12	1.44%

 

Ghostbusters comps

TSS - 1.494x (6.127m)

Dune - .724x (3.69m)

F9 - .63x (4.48m)

 

King Richard comps

Respect - 2.28x (1.48m)

Reminiscence - 3.95x (2.68m)

Stillwater - 5.62x (1.57m)

[EmpireCity]

West Side Story is going to hold fine through the Holiday.  

 

Underestimate a musical during the Holiday at your own risk.  People are way underselling the potential legs on this.  

[john2000]

@keysersoze123 how would you say ghostbusters is doing ?

[YM!]

 

It seems like the Marcus Theaters in my state have bought back morning matinees (ie 10 am to 12 pm showings), which is good as they are the biggest theaters in my state. I’m not sure if this is just for the Thanksgiving weekend but this is a good thing for the upcoming Christmas slate at my theater especially Sing 2, Matrix 4, and of course No Way Home. This is a good thing as it allows more showings for films. Anyone else’s theaters bringing back matinees?

[keysersoze123]

38 minutes ago, john2000 said:

@keysersoze123 how would you say ghostbusters is doing ?

Bad news John. I am not able to track MTC1 at this point. So no data from me. 

 

Either @Menor or myself can post MTC2 data. Let me take a look later today. 

[john2000]

Just now, keysersoze123 said:

Bad news John. I am not able to track MTC1 at this point. So no data from me. 

 

Either @Menor or myself can post MTC2 data. Let me take a look later today. 

What happened with MTC 1 ?

[Menor the Destroyer]

30 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Bad news John. I am not able to track MTC1 at this point. So no data from me. 

 

Either @Menor or myself can post MTC2 data. Let me take a look later today. 

I do have Ghostbusters data from yesterday, forgot to post but it didn't look too much different from the previous day. Will post it tonight with pace and comps.

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, EmpireCity said:

Underestimate a musical during the Holiday at your own risk. 

[Grebacio]

29 minutes ago, filmlover said:

TBF, Cats had pretty good legs and made almost the same amount than In The Heights and Evan Hansen combined DOM

edit: I got Heights numbers wrong

Edited November 16, 2021 by Grebacio

[Ronin46]

4 minutes ago, Grebacio said:

TBF, Cats had pretty good legs and made almost the same amount than In The Heights and Evan Hansen combined DOM

 

No it did not. In the Heights grossed more domestically. Pandemic, HBO Max and all to contend with on top.

[Grebacio]

6 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

 

No it did not. In the Heights grossed more domestically. Pandemic, HBO Max and all to contend with on top.

Yeah, forget what I said, I thought Heights made 11M on its run but that was its OW