Monday (05/12) #s: Coco - $1.49m, JL - $1.14m, Wonder - $0.8m, Thor - $0.75m

[TwoMisfits]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

 

My theater pretty much has Jedi on at least 4 screens and Ferdinand should have at least a 2D/3D Split. Not mention we have Christmas movies here showing. I am positive JL will lose a screen due to PLFs and Coco might have to share one of it’s two screens with Ferdinand since it lost the PLF split like JL, and like 80% of the holdovers gone. By the time Wednesday comes I think JL will be gone. Coco might stay due Disney shenanigans, it happened with Moana last year.

But how many screens did Rogue One have - we need to look at if Star Wars 8 (other than opening night) will get more, the same, or (crazily, and I don't expect this) less than Rogue One:)...

 

And if you don't have info on Rogue One, how many did GOTG 2, It, and Thor 3 get (since these got the most screens at my locals, so they probably did at most)?  Will Star Wars 8 get more (as of bookings now)?

[YM!]

7 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

But how many screens did Rogue One have - we need to look at if Star Wars 8 (other than opening night) will get more, the same, or (crazily, and I don't expect this) less than Rogue One:)...

 

And if you don't have info on Rogue One, how many did GOTG 2, It, and Thor 3 get (since these got the most screens at my locals, so they probably did at most)?  Will Star Wars 8 get more (as of bookings now)?

IT, Thor 3, and JL had like 3 screens if I remember correctly but started with 2. I started surveying my theater in mid May. So don’t know about GV2 or R1 but this is presales. Finals will be next Tuesday. Pretty sure it’ll get 5 though.

 

The only reason why I know Moana stayed was because I saw Moana the day after Christmas there.

Edited December 5, 2017 by YourMother

[NCsoft]

Coco is probably going to have a better Monday than Moana.

Edited December 5, 2017 by NCsoft

[RamblinRed]

14 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

Coco is probably going to have a better Monday than Moana.

Coco had slightly better weekdays than Moana last week -except for being 10K behind it on Monday.

This week i'm expecting it to have better weekdays all 4 days.

 

 

 

[RamblinRed]

i really appreciate the positive energy Brainiac tries to bring to the JL discussion even though the numbers really don't warrant it. I'm a data analyst for a living and way too cynical to have that positive outlook.

Barring something really unforseen 250 is all but dead for JL. 

If it simply matches FB from this point on it gets to 247. Unfortunately it is running consistently 8-10% behind FB right now. That is putting it at about 242 if it can maintain that and not erode faster than FB once TLJ comes out.

My gut is that it will fall further behind FB's pace next week. TLJ is looking at a 200+ opening. That is potentially 50M higher opening weekend than R1. Theaters will adjust their screen counts to maximize their ability to meet that demand. That means it is highly likely that TLJ will end up on more screens than R1 did opening weekend. Once those screens go to TLJ, they are unlikely to go back to old releases as the demand starts to satiate a little after a week or two. More likely it goes to new releases over Christmas.

 

I'm actually interested to see what ends up higher between JL and Coco. JL right now is on a path for about 242. Coco is now just 9M behind Moana so that would be 239 if it matches Moana going forward and it is running really close to Moana now and it looks like it has the potential to start running ahead of Moana's pace this week. if JL gets hit harder by TLJ (and potentially Jumanji as that looks like a potential breakout based on current tracking) and Coco continues to show strength over the holidays - with less animated competition as Ferdinand is only tracking about 50-60% of Sing I could see Coco slipping past JL late in its run. The animated features also tend to stay in the theaters longer over the holidays and new year period than live action releases. Moana and Sing stayed in theaters at least a month longer than FB did.

 

[Brainiac5]

13 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

i really appreciate the positive energy Brainiac tries to bring to the JL discussion even though the numbers really don't warrant it. I'm a data analyst for a living and way too cynical to have that positive outlook.

Barring something really unforseen 250 is all but dead for JL. 

If it simply matches FB from this point on it gets to 247. Unfortunately it is running consistently 8-10% behind FB right now. That is putting it at about 242 if it can maintain that and not erode faster than FB once TLJ comes out.

My gut is that it will fall further behind FB's pace next week. TLJ is looking at a 200+ opening. That is potentially 50M higher opening weekend than R1. Theaters will adjust their screen counts to maximize their ability to meet that demand. That means it is highly likely that TLJ will end up on more screens than R1 did opening weekend. Once those screens go to TLJ, they are unlikely to go back to old releases as the demand starts to satiate a little after a week or two. More likely it goes to new releases over Christmas.

 

I'm actually interested to see what ends up higher between JL and Coco. JL right now is on a path for about 242. Coco is now just 9M behind Moana so that would be 239 if it matches Moana going forward and it is running really close to Moana now and it looks like it has the potential to start running ahead of Moana's pace this week. if JL gets hit harder by TLJ (and potentially Jumanji as that looks like a potential breakout based on current tracking) and Coco continues to show strength over the holidays - with less animated competition as Ferdinand is only tracking about 50-60% of Sing I could see Coco slipping past JL late in its run. The animated features also tend to stay in the theaters longer over the holidays and new year period than live action releases. Moana and Sing stayed in theaters at least a month longer than FB did.

 

None of us are truly gonna know until it happens.

247 is pretty damn close.

Ill take the 240+ As it’s much higher than the 215 many here were claiming.

[JB33]

Yeah I must say @Brainiac5 you've been pretty cool during this tough release of JL. Props to you for that, given how big of a fan you are.

[Boxofficerules]

WB could fudge it’s way to $250, just “borrow” some money from Father Figures, although that’s gonna need every penny it can get.

[Walt Disney]

6 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

WB could fudge it’s way to $250, just “borrow” some money from Father Figures, although that’s gonna need every penny it can get.

Or say they made a mistake with Wonder Woman's gross and take some of that money. Wonder Woman has plenty to give JL.

[Brainiac5]

14 minutes ago, JB33 said:

Yeah I must say @Brainiac5 you've been pretty cool during this tough release of JL. Props to you for that, given how big of a fan you are.

I know the film isn’t big as I hoped for it to be ,However I’m happy There’s actually a JL film to watch As I have been waiting my whole life for such a thing to exist.

Going this weekend to see it again with a group.

 

 

[Krissykins]

2 hours ago, Jordanstine said:

Looks to finish more in the lower end of the $240M range, but if it does go above $245M, definitely look for WB to put JL in the $1 discount theaters to get it over $250M.

Pretty sure most films go to the dollar theatres eventually anyway. 

[a2k]

 

Edit:

Thinking,

87.2m by Thursday (using last Tue, Wed, Thu holds)

91m by Sunday (3.8m weekend / -44%).

92.3m by following Thu (-45% from this Mon-Thu).

94m by the Sunday of SW8 weekend (1.7m weekend / -55%)

Then 2 weekends it will stay flat and weekdays will be strong. Then one 'bad' week followed by MLK 4-day weekend.

Then with dollar bump or even before it, 100m will be breached. 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2017 by a2knet

[filmlover]

32 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

WB could fudge it’s way to $250, just “borrow” some money from Father Figures, although that’s gonna need every penny it can get.

But how could they "borrow" money from Father Figures when there won't be much to borrow?

 

[a2k]

I don't think JL will be close enough to 250 for a fudge. Also it's not a fudge worthy number. Unlike 100, 200, 300 I don't think it effects TV deals, payouts etc. Harry Potter 3 is a good example. That 249.5m torture is etched in my mind forever.

[Finnick]

COCO FOLLOWING MOANA MONDAY DROP!! 35.5% Fom last Monday.

Thor better with 13.6% Down from last Monday, JUST AWESOME.

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
1	(1)	Coco	Walt Disney	$1,495,179	-84%	3,987	$375	$111,603,887	13
2	(2)	Justice League	Warner Bros.	$1,138,122	-76%	3,820	$298	$198,545,147	18
3	(3)	Wonder	Lionsgate	$801,261	-76%	3,449	$232	$88,481,066	18
4	(4)	Thor: Ragnarok	Walt Disney	$753,838	-73%	3,148	$239	$292,387,373	32
5	(6)	Murder on the Orient Express	20th Century Fox	$581,538	-67%	3,201	$182	$85,421,053	25
6	(5)	Daddy’s Home 2	Paramount Pictures	$464,298	-77%	3,403	$136	$83,351,134	25
7	(9)	Three Billboards Outside Eb…	Fox Searchlight	$430,843	-63%	1,430	$301	$13,967,900	25
8	(8)	Lady Bird	A24	$430,153	-64%	1,194	$360	$17,267,194	32
9	(10)	A Bad Moms Christmas	STX Entertainment	$277,848	-66%	2,251	$123	$65,015,155	34
10	(7)	The Star	Sony Pictures	$225,353	-83%	2,822	$80	$27,583,429	18
11	(11)	Roman J. Israel, Esq.	Sony Pictures	$182,321	-63%	1,669	$109	$9,709,113	18
12	(12)	The Disaster Artist	A24	$99,278	-67%	19	$5,225	$1,310,623	4
13	(15)	Blade Runner 2049	Warner Bros.	$46,264	-59%	515	$90	$90,831,429	60
14	(14)	Titanic	Paramount Pictures	$38,093	-68%	87	$438	$659,148,997	7,291

 

 

Edited December 5, 2017 by Finnick

[ZeeSoh]

 

 

 

Wonder grossed $801K on Monday. 18-Day total stands at $88.48M.#WonderTheMovie #ChooseKind #BoxOffice @Lionsgate @WonderTheMovie

— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) December 5, 2017

[cannastop]

Just now, Finnick said:

 

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
1	(1)	Coco	Walt Disney	$1,495,179	-84%	3,987	$375	$111,603,887	13
2	(2)	Justice League	Warner Bros.	$1,138,122	-76%	3,820	$298	$198,545,147	18
3	(3)	Wonder	Lionsgate	$801,261	-76%	3,449	$232	$88,481,066	18
4	(4)	Thor: Ragnarok	Walt Disney	$753,838	-73%	3,148	$239	$292,387,373	32
5	(6)	Murder on the Orient Express	20th Century Fox	$581,538	-67%	3,201	$182	$85,421,053	25
6	(5)	Daddy’s Home 2	Paramount Pictures	$464,298	-77%	3,403	$136	$83,351,134	25
7	(9)	Three Billboards Outside Eb…	Fox Searchlight	$430,843	-63%	1,430	$301	$13,967,900	25
8	(8)	Lady Bird	A24	$430,153	-64%	1,194	$360	$17,267,194	32
9	(10)	A Bad Moms Christmas	STX Entertainment	$277,848	-66%	2,251	$123	$65,015,155	34

Coco's slightly higher than Moana's second Monday, which was $1,419,381.

 

Still has a lot of catching up to do if it's going to end higher than $250m dom.

[ZeeSoh]

Thor down just 13.6% from last Monday!!!

 

DS was down nearly 30% on the same monday

 

[Rebeccas]

2 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Thor down just 13.6% from last Monday!!!

 

DS was down nearly 30% on the same monday

 

IW trailer effect continues.

[Lordmandeep]

Thor 3 likely will drop sub 30% this weekend and finally go past 300 million