Eternals | Marvel Studios | Nov 5 2021 | Magnum-Opus by Oscar winner Chloe Zhao - Marvel's first rotten movie | Dips into the 40s on RT, B CinemaScore

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

I understand where the joke is coming from. The marketing of Eternals has been somewhat grating. Chloe Zhao doing press about how the film is influenced by Malick and Feige going on all year about shooting on real locations has been eye-roll worthy. Anyone who has seen Nomadland or The Rider should know Zhao fundamentally misunderstands Malick and only recognizes him on a superficial level. His aesthetic is a mismatch for the trite plotting of Nomadland. What is Malick-esque about Eternals? Will there be a closeup of a hand in a what farm? Superhero and genre films in general are always meant to be reflective in their subtext--Nolan elevated the genre with TDK. This talk is just excessive and makes the 150 minute runtime look more bloated. She's bragging about how long the takes hold but doesn't that just reveal the limitations of formulaic blockbuster filming instead? Other than the dimmer lighting, there is nothing that truly stands out visually in the trailer than any other MCU or superhero movie. I just wish for once these directors would be like "Just wanted to make a fun film". I don't like Venom but at least that was 90 minutes and mostly comedic despite the usual blockbuster flaws

 

But hey, people love this and are eating it up. An epic MCU film with romance and global ensemble is catnip for the mainstream

[lorddemaxus]

17 minutes ago, Fox20 said:

People were supposed to know the full story of that tweet like that?

I mean all you need to know is that its satirizing fan accounts which is pretty easy to tell from the handle. 

[Saul Goodman]

But it is an epic ensemble movie? Why can't they promote it like that while others go to even greater lengths to hype up their movies?

[JWR]

ANYWAYS, I think it's really neat that the marketing campaign is in full effect, now. 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

7 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

But it is an epic ensemble movie? Why can't they promote it like that while others go to even greater lengths to hype up their movies?

The promote it as an epic ensemble movie. Don’t insincerely and disingenuously namedrop Malick and Kubrick lol. The MCU fanbase has no interest and knowledge of them anyway so it’s not going to move the needle 

[Cooper Legion]

Seems like name dropping malick and Kubrick has been a very effective marketing strategy for driving conversation 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

2 minutes ago, Let There Be Legion said:

Seems like name dropping malick and Kubrick has been a very effective marketing strategy for driving conversation 

Malick should namedrop MCU during promotion for his next movie to see if the reverse works 

[Saul Goodman]

7 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

The promote it as an epic ensemble movie. Don’t insincerely and disingenuously namedrop Malick and Kubrick lol. The MCU fanbase has no interest and knowledge of them anyway so it’s not going to move the needle 

That's some generalization. So you're saying movies should only be marketed for the fanbase and no one else?

[Cooper Legion]

1 minute ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Malick should namedrop MCU during promotion for his next movie to see if the reverse works 

It does!   
 

The trick is you have to imply that the mcu movies are  beneath you, but throw in enough ambiguity for your defenders to argue that the comments aren’t intended as an insult. We’ve seen this movie before 😛 

[RRA]

10 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Malick should namedrop MCU during promotion for his next movie to see if the reverse works 

You joke but he’s a legit “Zoolander” fan so who knows? Hell Terry Gilliam liked Ant-Man. Crazier things have happened.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

9 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

That's some generalization. So you're saying movies should only be marketed for the fanbase and no one else?

Yes. Marvel already has a built-in fanbase that is going to show up regardless

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

2 minutes ago, RRA said:

You joke but he’s a legit “Zoolander” fan so who knows? Hell Terry Gilliam liked Ant-Man. Crazier things have happened.

Directors have inexplicable taste. Paul Thomas Anderson loves Ted

[RRA]

7 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Directors have inexplicable taste. Paul Thomas Anderson loves Ted

Hell he admitted he cried during Men in Black 3. 
 

 

[Darth Lehnsherr]

I mean if Chloe Zhao wasn't doing an MCU Film I'm sure people would have been surprised about her being an MCU Fan.

[Spidey Freak]

13 hours ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:

I mean if Chloe Zhao wasn't doing an MCU Film I'm sure people would have been surprised about her being an MCU Fan.

 

Asia loves superhero movies because it is the closest thing the West offers that connects with their own myths and cultures. It's obvious from the trailers that Zhao is leaning heavily into the mythical aspects of superheroes with a lot of imagery from Indian and East Asian/South East Asian arts and culture.

 

I kind of wish she had directed New Gods now as that's a far richer story. Her work was cut out with the bare minimum that is the Eternals source material but she already seems to have elevated it. 

[Krissykins]

Richard looking great in his character poster.
 

But I’m still “meh” on this. Maybe as it gets closer there will be some excitement. 

[imbruglia]

lol at the idea that chloe or other mcu directors can't name drop other directors.. because mcu isn't cinema, or "shouldn't be" cinema.

 

bunch of gate keeping and elitism and snobbish mess.

 

"There are so many internet therapists, comment critics, and experts with no expertise. Our reality can be warped because it’s based on a personalized algorithm. It shows us whatever truths we are searching for, and that’s dangerous." - Queen B

 

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by imbruglia

[Menor the Destroyer]

9 minutes ago, imbruglia said:

lol at the idea that chloe or other mcu directors can't name drop other directors.. because mcu isn't cinema, or "shouldn't be" cinema.

 

bunch of gate keeping and elitism and snobbish mess.

Yep. Any other director will name drop all kinds of people and there's no problem but if it's done for an MCU film there's all this outcry. 

[imbruglia]

18 minutes ago, Menor said:

Yep. Any other director will name drop all kinds of people and there's no problem but if it's done for an MCU film there's all this outcry. 

it just shows how dumb they are.. Chloe was likeable to them until it was widely known that she got the creative freedom and shot it as she wants and in her previous films. they couldn't handle that "their" indie director is fan of mcu and will bring so called "cinema"(as they say) to mcu. lol

 

again those "experts with no expertise" live in their warped reality from echo chamber of twitter time line with bunch of misery.

but the reality is..  Malik like chloe zhao and was fan of nomadland.. lol but nomadland was wrong according to "experts with no expertise".

 

and the fact that all those she's fake malik take started after Marvel discussion as if inspired meaning direct carbon copt of someone's work.. like ??

 

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She was floored when Malick agreed to take an early look at “Nomadland,” which includes ample footage from the Badlands of South Dakota, where Malick made his first feature almost 50 years ago. Malick offered some notes — and an encouraging reaction. (A rep for the press-shy director said, “He flipped for it.”)

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/09/nomadland-interview-chloe-zhao-1234584703/

 

[Heroicpiglet]

43 minutes ago, imbruglia said:

lol at the idea that chloe or other mcu directors can't name drop other directors.. because mcu isn't cinema, or "shouldn't be" cinema.

 

bunch of gate keeping and elitism and snobbish mess.

 

"There are so many internet therapists, comment critics, and experts with no expertise. Our reality can be warped because it’s based on a personalized algorithm. It shows us whatever truths we are searching for, and that’s dangerous." - Queen B

 

 

 

 

You're saying it better than me.