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Weekend Thread: Weekend Actuals - Godzilla KOTM $47.77M | Aladdin $42.84M | Rocketman $25.72M | MA $18.09M

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7 hours ago, Brainbug said:

Oh well. Like i said, i dont really care (though i would apprectiate it if you woud stop tagging me). Ill see the film for the fith and sixth time today and plan to end it with 25+ times.

 

Though i think i will take a long break from this site. The film seriously underperforming means certain people will laugh at it and i dont really need that.

 

Truth to be told, i do care a little. The past few days have kind of killed my excitement for box office numbers.

Please brainbug don’t leave, you are really one of those rare specimens we need in this place and can’t replace. 

 

You are the most genuine fan of something in here. 

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I don't buy this it's all Godzilla '14's fault stuff. Kong legged it out but wasn't as big as folks hoped. Pacific Rim underwhelmed at the box office. Pacific Rim 2 flat out flopped. And, even Peter Jackson's Kong coming fresh off his enormous LotR fame with outstanding reviews and buzz didn't do nearly as well as people expected then either.

 

Not sure how big of an audience there is for these Kong and Godzilla flicks. 

 

As mentioned, only Transformers really broke out and that benefitted hugely from 80s nostalgia. That's essentially a kaiju blockbuster.

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A few high profile casualties might make the big boys wake up and realise there’s a demograph that needs serving in the summer - they’re just leaving money on the table. 

 

Fact is, all of these blockbusters hit massive when they appeal to every age. But....if they don’t - nightmare. 

Less risk in cutting back on maybe one $200 million mega movie and making three or four proper adult driven summer entertainments with some stars. I’m talking summer 93 In the Line of Fire, Fugitive, The Firm, Sleepless in Seattle. Movies that might only do $90–100 million now, but with a modest budget that’s more than ok. 

 

Seriously...if you’re of an older age then what appeals right now? I don’t buy that they won’t show up. You’ve got to give them some product. So what if they only make $60-70 million domestic? 

You’ve more chance of one in three or four star vehicles blowing up big than staking all the money on one mega FX movie that’s the same as the one coming the week after, and the one that opened the week before. 

 

The studios and the exhibitors need more variety for older audiences in the summer. In my opinion anyway. 

 

Rocketman - for a certain audience and will play well for weeks to come. End up on a tidy sum and a success. We need more of those scattered amongst these behemoths or we’re going to just have more high profile casualties. Next up to crash and burn - Dark Phoenix. 

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Endgame is a BEAST. $357 on OW, it was expected to fall hard and it did. $840 dom total is way more than anyone here predict.I don´t understand why everyone is so surprised. I thought it would fall harder on second weekend and then softer but in the end its goint to have a 2,35x from OW, which is great for such a frontloaded movie (the last HP movie had a 2,25x from OW and with "only" a $169 OW - 47,35% of EG)

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7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

If Godzilla '14 had been KOTM as a film, it probably would have grossed well over 250 with that OW. WB figured it out too late. 

275+ domestic

350+ overseas

90+ China

 

Total - 700+ WW total with good reception.

 

Godzilla 2014 was best chance for a breakout in this Genre, what an opportunity squandered.

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So Endgame is looking at 835m range. Next weekend is its 7th. Based on 143cinema in twitter large Plexes had 6 week deal, its going to have another big drop next weekend. Even with weak OW from DP and Pets 2, I dont see end game having a great hold until TS4 opens.

 

I am sure we will hear about extended Director Cut soon. Its not going to beat Avatar WW without that.

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13 minutes ago, ScoobyDoo21 said:

I ,mean kuddos for Rocketman to pursue art rather than sacrifice and sugarcoat its subject's life story in pursuit of the widest audience possible (Looks at Bohemian Rhapsody) hopefully its legs will reward it.

I don’t think that’s what they were doing though. They didn’t spend $40 million on an art house film and then probably another $40 million or so advertising it for months. They wanted Bohemian Rhapsody numbers and did not believe an R rating would effect things. 

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So happy for Octavia Spencer. Disappointing for Kong. Definitely an underperformance. It was tracking at 50-55 and will open ~5% under that. People throw the words “locked” and “flop” on here too much.

 

At this point, as baumer said, legs are irrelevant in evaluating Endgame. It has made a boatload of cash and will end second domestically and probably WW too. I do think that its run should caution some who thought it was “locked” to gross 1B DOM a and 3B WW. There’s a reason why Avatar and Star Wars have had their records for years. It simply isn’t easy to reach those heights. I just hope that the fact that people set themselves up for disappointment by predicting such lofty numbers doesn’t diminish the absolute monster run we witnessed. 

 

Let’s see how it plays out. In my opinion, Endgame has about a 10% chance of passing Avatar. We are likely looking at 840 DOM, 630 China and 1.285 OS-C right now. Maybe late legs will kick in and boost it higher.

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1 - Godzilla: King of the Monsters WB $19,605,000 - - 4,108 $4,772 $19,605,000 1
2 1 Aladdin (2019) BV $11,907,000 +86% -62% 4,476 $2,660 $154,604,174 8
3 - Rocketman Par. $9,200,000 - - 3,610 $2,548 $9,200,000 1
4 - Ma Uni. $7,240,000 - - 2,808 $2,578 $7,240,000 1
5 2 John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum LG/S $3,000,000 +75% -55% 3,604 $832 $117,652,812 15
6 3 Avengers: Endgame BV $2,065,000 +82% -52% 3,105 $665 $809,753,784 36
7 4 Pokemon Detective Pikachu WB $1,830,000 +81% -46% 3,147 $582 $125,766,211 22
8 5 Booksmart UAR $975,023 +61% -61% 2,518 $387 $12,013,207 8
9 6 Brightburn SGem $715,000 +46% -76% 2,607 $274 $12,612,552 8
10 8 The Hustle UAR $408,784 +45% -62% 1,407 $291 $32,304,386 22
11 7 A Dog's Journey Uni. $290,000 -18% -74% 1,674 $173 $18,014,470 15
12 - Dumbo (2019) BV $231,000 +339% -29% 230 $1,004 $113,216,882 64
- 9 The Intruder (2019) SGem $220,000 +35% -64% 807 $273 $33,617,166 29
- - Captain Marvel BV $51,000 +65% -54% 162 $315 $426,062,433 85
- - Breakthrough Fox $47,000 +29% -55% 251 $187 $40,185,588 45
- - Penguins (Disneynature) BV $31,000 +46% +30% 45 $689 $7,538,753 45
- - Faith, Hope & Love AAE $218 -22% -61% 2 $109 $207,393 78
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10 minutes ago, Frozen said:

I don’t think that’s what they were doing though. They didn’t spend $40 million on an art house film and then probably another $40 million or so advertising it for months. They wanted Bohemian Rhapsody numbers and did not believe an R rating would effect things. 

It's R rating has not affected it.

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What’s happening King of the Monsters  (sequel decreasing after following a negatively received movie) is also a preview of what will happen with Rise of Skywalker this December. Though obviously in that case it won’t be close to a flop 

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10 minutes ago, Frozen said:

I don’t think that’s what they were doing though. They didn’t spend $40 million on an art house film and then probably another $40 million or so advertising it for months. They wanted Bohemian Rhapsody numbers and did not believe an R rating would effect things. 

 

It’s doing fine. They would never have expected Rhapsody numbers. The movie will play well for weeks. 

You can’t ignore that they’ve also opened it right in the middle of blockbuster central.  It’ll tick along nicely though I’m sure right through June and into July. 

 

It’s in much better shape than Godzilla that’s for sure. 

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3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

What’s happening King of the Monsters  (sequel decreasing after following a negatively received movie) is also a preview of what will happen with Rise of Skywalker this December. Though obviously in that case it won’t be close to a flop 

Question there is were the fans disappointed or GA. if its Fans they will be back since JJ is directing and SW7 played great with fanbase. but if GA were disappointed, they aint coming back.

 

Since this is SW we are talking about PS for SW9 will tell the tale. if that is below SW8, its in trouble. It needs to infact beat Endgame.

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13 minutes ago, Menor said:

From the 9 AM Pulse it seems like Godzilla can go for a 17-19 million Saturday. Will have a better idea at 1 PM though.

You’re killing me man..., that would be pretty damn good after all this terrible news.

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