Fantastic Four | Marvel Studios | July 25, 2025 | Matt Shakman directs

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

He wrote Spielberg's War Of The Worlds. That alone makes this exciting for me.

[thajdikt]

24 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Oh it’s 100% the Quantumania effect. Bad reviews and a flop at the box office = fire all the comedy writers on other upcoming projects. 

The guy that wrote Quantumania hasnt´been fired and he´s writing a freaking Avengers movies. Not everything is in relation to Quantumania

[Saul Goodman]

Damn, the guy has an interesting resume.

[lorddemaxus]

48 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

He wrote Spielberg's War Of The Worlds. That alone makes this exciting for me.

The final draft was Koepp's tho

[Krissykins]

1 hour ago, thajdikt said:

The guy that wrote Quantumania hasnt´been fired and he´s writing a freaking Avengers movies. Not everything is in relation to Quantumania

Higher-ups being fired, writers on two other projects being fired and replaced? All since Quantumania released. Come on, let’s use common sense. 

They've noticed there’s been a downturn (in quality, reviews, reception, box office, TV ratings, interest, hype etc) and now it’s time to shake things up. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Krissykins

[TheFlatLannister]

2 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Oh it’s 100% the Quantumania effect. Bad reviews and a flop at the box office = fire all the comedy writers on other upcoming projects. 

It's more than just Antman. Phase 4 was very mixed reception wise and underperformed box office expectations. Antman was the straw that broke the camel's back

[marveldcfox]

Weren't the original writers working on F4 for quite some time. Infact, the press said said they were going to be sheperding the writing of future installments. 

 

 

[Krissykins]

6 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

It's more than just Antman. Phase 4 was very mixed reception wise and underperformed box office expectations. Antman was the straw that broke the camel's back

Not sure what you’re trying to do here, but if you see my original post again, that’s what I already said. 

[BadOlCatSylvester]

11 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Higher-ups being fired, writers on two other projects being fired and replaced? All since Quantumania released. Come on, let’s use common sense. 

They've noticed there’s been a downturn (in quality, reviews, reception, box office, TV ratings, interest, hype etc) and now it’s time to shake things up. 

Yeah, this is it. Quantumania was, at least from the perspective of the average moviegoer, the Batman v Superman of Marvel. A lynchpin movie that was a critical and commercial failure, and is the rock bottom point for the franchise when the studio should realize this isn't working.

 

Thankfully, unlike DC, Marvel's next big event films won't be out for years still, so they still have a ton of time to course correct, and we're already seeing it now with The Marvels shifting to November and Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four being rewritten with scribes who the directors know and trust. Their new Thanos will also likely be recast for obvious reasons, pending his trial this May.

[Joel M]

Don't do it Adam Driver, you 're so sexy.

[filmlover]

14 minutes ago, Joel M said:

Don't do it Adam Driver, you 're so sexy.

Dude already did 65. I refuse to believe a bigger project like this is beneath him. 

[Joel M]

3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Dude already did 65. I refuse to believe a bigger project like this is beneath him. 

 

ofc it's not beneath him. I just don't want him in a 7-movie contract with Marvel for the rest ofthe decade. He's already 40 and started very late. Plus he already did the big franchise thing with Star Wars.

[CoolioD1]

it's like RPatz going back to the big franchise machine w/ Batman, eventually you have to recharge the draw of your name with a big movie so your presence can keep getting the auteur stuff financed. after 65 it's looking a little dicey

[thajdikt]

Adam Driver would be a very very good pull for Reed. Hope it happens. Plenty of MCU actors have done auteur stuff alongside it. So good actor

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

I’m still of the belief that Nicholas Hoult or Frank Dillane would be great Reeds. If they wanted to go older maybe Joshua Jackson.

[ChipDerby]

14 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

it's like RPatz going back to the big franchise machine w/ Batman, eventually you have to recharge the draw of your name with a big movie so your presence can keep getting the auteur stuff financed. after 65 it's looking a little dicey

 

That's called "the Pixar"

[dudalb]

3 hours ago, Joel M said:

 

ofc it's not beneath him. I just don't want him in a 7-movie contract with Marvel for the rest ofthe decade. He's already 40 and started very late. Plus he already did the big franchise thing with Star Wars.

But the point is if he can make big bucks in an MCU franchise, he can use his off time to do any project he wants evein if it does not pay that well.

Artistic purity is fine until you actually have make a living in your art.

[dudalb]

2 hours ago, thajdikt said:

Adam Driver would be a very very good pull for Reed. Hope it happens. Plenty of MCU actors have done auteur stuff alongside it. So good actor

It's called '"One for them, One for Me", You make a popular audience pleaser to get the money  and/or muscle you need to do the projects you really want to do that might not be so promising at the box office.

Jennifer Lawrence was a master at that. DId "Hunger Games" to get the big bucks, then between the games movie did small scale art house projects..earning herself an Oscar at a young age.

[Deep Wang]

[jedijake]

7 hours ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

I’m still of the belief that Nicholas Hoult or Frank Dillane would be great Reeds. If they wanted to go older maybe Joshua Jackson.

Yes to Hoult. Driver for Doom.