TalismanRing Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Panda said: Even by RT standard, Iron Man was more acclaimed than those. And I am trying to not re-use critics, and I liked his excerpt 🤷♂️ Not really Iron Man - 93% Average Rating: 7.71/10 Total Count: 276 Fresh: 258 Rotten: 18 Top Critics: 89% Average Rating: 7.41/10 Total Count: 56 Fresh: 50 Rotten: 6 Avengers: 92% Average Rating: 8.06/10 Total Count: 346 Fresh: 319 Rotten: 27 Top Critics: 84% Average Rating: 7.61/10 Total Count: 55 Fresh: 46 Rotten: 9 CIVIL WAR - 91% Average Rating: 7.71/10 Total Count: 394 Fresh: 358 Rotten: 36 Top Critics : 92% Average Rating: 7.39/10 Total Count: 60 Fresh: 55 Rotten: 5 etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, The Panda said: Pretty much left that up to the voters discretion Wait what. I did not include it because I thought it was ruled ineligible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 4815162342 said: Wait what. I did not include it because I thought it was ruled ineligible Panda didn't rule it ineligible but it was based on a novella. The manga came out when the movie did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, TalismanRing said: Panda didn't rule it ineligible but it was based on a novella. The manga came out when the movie did. I am sorry that's some BS by Panda. After 5 different people said it was ineligible I assumed that Panda had adopted that, and I never saw a post leaving it to the contrary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, 4815162342 said: I am sorry that's some BS by Panda. After 5 different people said it was ineligible I assumed that Panda had adopted that, and I never saw a post leaving it to the contrary. I dunno, maybe this is kind of like how Grim didn't confirm or deny if Princess Mononoke could be on multiple year lists or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Marvel's The Avengers (2012) Directed by Joss Whedon Based on "The Avengers" by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby (184 Points, 39 Votes) "Puny god." Number 1 Placements: 2 Top 2 Placements: 3 Top 4 Placements: 6 Top 6 Placements: 9 Top 10 Placements: 18 Awards Count: Nominated for 1 Oscar Box Office: 623.4m (692.7m Adjusted) Metacritic: 69 Synopsis: Nick Fury is the director of S.H.I.E.L.D., an international peace-keeping agency. The agency is a who's who of Marvel Super Heroes, with Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow. When global security is threatened by Loki and his cohorts, Nick Fury and his team will need all their powers to save the world from disaster which is formed by Loki and his team Critic Opinion: "As such, it has no right to be this good. A 3-D movie featuring not one, not two, but six brilliant and/or ludicrously muscled protagonists fighting to defend Planet Earth from a Nordic god in a snit has no right to be anything but confusing, ridiculous and generally devoid of simple human affect. And yet it's none of those things. Instead, Joss Whedon's delicious ode to the Marvel universe boasts clarity, conviction and characters who live and breathe. There are moments of genuine pathos, genuine humor, genuine surprise. As much as the film adheres to the strictures of the standard comic-book movie, it also pops with a knowing, loving, Whedon-world jokiness that keeps everything barreling along." - Amy Biancolli, San Francisco Chronicle User Opinion: "It was amazing. The comedy was perfect. Hulk stole the last half of the movie. It is a shame that they kind of turned Loki into a joke with the Hulk/Iron Man stuff in the 2nd half. Still, he was an amazing villian. The best of these Marvel movies so far. Tom Hiddleston is perfect for this role." - @CJohn Commentary: As Iron Man was the official start to the MCU, The Avengers was the kick-off point to the whole shared universe aspect. Beyond this point, these movies only shared small Easter egg threads and some small roles by the same supporting characters. It was this movie that brought all of these dynamic personalities together, and showed there was a large, profitable and crowd pleasing market for some superhero crossover. It's funny to think many thought this cast of eight would be too much given where the franchise ends up now. Box Office Count: Under 100m (14), 100m (8), 200m (5), 300m (6), 400m (6), 600m (1), 700m (1) Decade Count: 70s (1), 80s (4), 90s (4), 00s (12), 10s (20) Director Count: Miyazaki (2), Nolan (2), Watts (2), Burton (2), Gunn (2), Singer (2), Black (1), Boden (1), Chan-Wook (1), Coogler (1), Cronenberg (1), Donner (1), Favreau (1), Jenkins (1), Johnston (1), Joon-ho (1), Lester (1), McTeigue (1), Mendes (1), Oshii (1), Otomo (1), Parannaud (1), Radomski (1), Raimi (1), Rodriguez (1), Russo (1), Sandberg (1), Satrapi (1), Snyder (1), Sonnenfield (1), Timm (1), Travis (1), Vaughn (1), Wachowski (1), Waititi (1), Whedon (1), Wright (1), Zwigoff (1) Franchise Count: MCU (12), Chris Evans (6), Batman (5), Iron Man (5), Spider-Man (4), Captain America (3), X-Men (3), Black Panther (2), DCEU (2), Guardians of the Galaxy (2), Hulk (2), Studio Ghibli (2), Superman (2), Thor (2), The Avengers (1), Dredd (1), Men in Black (1), Wonder Woman (1) 20 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Not really Iron Man - 93% Average Rating: 7.71/10 Total Count: 276 Fresh: 258 Rotten: 18 Top Critics: 89% Average Rating: 7.41/10 Total Count: 56 Fresh: 50 Rotten: 6 Avengers: 92% Average Rating: 8.06/10 Total Count: 346 Fresh: 319 Rotten: 27 Top Critics: 84% Average Rating: 7.61/10 Total Count: 55 Fresh: 46 Rotten: 9 CIVIL WAR - 91% Average Rating: 7.71/10 Total Count: 394 Fresh: 358 Rotten: 36 Top Critics : 92% Average Rating: 7.39/10 Total Count: 60 Fresh: 55 Rotten: 5 etc Iron Man had been sitting at 94% for a while, somewhere along the line it got another negative review. At the very least The Avengers received similar acclaim to what Iron Man got, but it'd be hard to say it was definitively greater (using RT, which I tend to think MC is the better metric for review compilation). Anyways, kind of pointless to argue the semantics of that line though lol Edited August 17, 2019 by The Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Btw, I said on Page 7 of the submission thread I'd accept votes for Edge of Tomorrow when answering Cannastop's question. Others continued to act like it was ineligible. I maybe should have double clarified that I was accepting votes for it, my apologies there. But I do want to point out I specifically answered that question with a straight answer of yes. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 To paraphrase our favorite movie quote: "Forget it, @Thanos Legion & @TalismanRing, it's Panda and the MCU." = Also every time Panda posts one of these and doesn't tag me, I am like: "Excellent, Excellleent. The Winter Soldier is one step closer to where it belongs" with some Mr. Burns hand gestures. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous5445 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2012 Avengers still holds up for me tbh. It's as close to a perfect summer blockbuster as one could get. Also, what two categories did Iron Man get nominated for? Didn't realize it got Oscar noms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Panda said: Even though I only had The Avengers at seven on my list, I do feel that this sequence, particularly the iconic "Spinning Spot", is probably the most important in comic book film history. In 2008 -- as a TAG at the END of the crawl credits -- Nick Fury emerged from the shadows and told Tony he was "you've become part of a bigger universe, you just don't know it yet." It was a promise, nah a pipe dream in 2008. Iron Man could have flopped. These films want to what? A cinematic what? You just except everyone to watch four movies so they can watch one big team up movie? That you're not going to release for another four years? Sure, Jan. But Kevin Feige stuck with it. And in that Spinning Shot Moment they delivered. That is truly when the MCU was born. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, infamous5445 said: 2012 Avengers still holds up for me tbh. It's as close to a perfect summer blockbuster as one could get. Also, what two categories did Iron Man get nominated for? Didn't realize it got Oscar noms. VFX and Sound Editing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Prime Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 So the top 7, in whatever order, is The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2, Infinity War, Endgame, Logan, Into the Spider-Verse, and Winter Soldier, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, Eric! said: So the top 7, in whatever order, is The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 2, Infinity War, Endgame, Logan, Into the Spider-Verse, and Winter Soldier, right? I can't believe people are so high on Spiderverse. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, baumer said: I can't believe people are so high on Spiderverse. I mean, like three-quarters of the list is bewildering to me, but there ya go. 😂 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Prime Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, baumer said: I can't believe people are so high on Spiderverse. okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 How dare these people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75Live Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, baumer said: I can't believe people are so high on Spiderverse. I like it but I didn't have it in my top 10 but I kind of get why people are really into it. Plus recency bias kidding, but yeah I think it's more of a different style and all the different spider characters is what does it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said: I mean, like three-quarters of the list is bewildering to me, but there ya go. 😂 I don't think half the members here have seen Superman or Superman 2. Hell, maybe not even the Burton Batman movies. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyDeadlinePredictions Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 hours ago, The Panda said: 69. The Crow Nice number but still sad it missed the top 50. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...