The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[AniNate]

Theater counts: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes debuts in 4,075 locations - The Numbers (the-numbers.com)

 

 

Kung Fu Panda gonna hold onto 2000 theaters to the bitter end

[TheFlatLannister]

1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Planet of apes is having excellent walkups so far. Probably overindexing here, but all comps are well over $6M Thursday 

Fall guys and Godzilla comps finished at $4.7M

 

However, all other comps, even Dune are around $6M

 

Thinking previews will come in at $6M+ with EA baked in

[abracadabra1998]

On 5/5/2024 at 11:10 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

IF (T-11):

Day: T-11	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 25 theaters	72	17	56	11918	0.47

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		33	14	58.93
MTC1:		32	13	57.14
Alamo:		4	0	7.14
Other chains:		20	4	35.71

 

Comps:

0.33x Kung Fu Panda 4: $1.25 Million (17 theaters)

0.19x Wonka: $650k (17 theaters)

0.32x Wish (TUE): $575k (17 theaters)

0.96x Trolls (THU): $1.24 Million (17 theaters)

0.26x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $815k (17 theaters)

 

Average: $905k

 

Rising against comps as expected, due to the short release window, but I am still failing to see anything that suggests the numbers given by some other outlets

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

IF (T-7):

Day: T-7	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 25 theaters	90	38	94	14073	0.67

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		53	20	56.38
MTC1:		53	21	56.38
Alamo:		8	4	8.51
Other chains:		33	13	35.11

 

Comps:

0.33x Kung Fu Panda 4: $1.24 Million (17 theaters)

0.26x Wonka: $905k (17 theaters)

0.4x Wish (TUE): $720k (17 theaters)

0.9x Trolls (THU): $1.16 Million (17 theaters)

Haunted Mansion: Missed

 

Average: $1 Million

 

One week out, not impressed in the slightest

[charlie Jatinder]

Incredible walkups for Apes.

[abracadabra1998]

On 5/5/2024 at 11:14 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

The Garfield Movie (T-18):

Day: T-18, T-14	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 25 theaters	93	11	33	12272	0.27
Sunday May 19 EA: 9 theaters	9	13	155	954	16.25
TOTALS:	102	24	188	13226	1.42

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		0	0	0
MTC1:		18	11	54.55
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		15	0	45.45

 

Feels silly to do Thursday comps with numbers this tiny so skipping that for now.

 

EA Comps:

0.68x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (T-13 EA): ??

1.08x Fall Guy (T-13 EA): $865k

0.23x Dune Part 2 EA: $450k

0.87x Trolls (T-13 EA): $1.02 Million

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

The Garfield Movie (T-14):

Day: T-14, T-10	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 25 theaters	99	8	41	12727	0.32
Sunday May 19 EA: 9 theaters	9	37	192	954	20.13
TOTALS:	108	45	233	13681	1.7

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		0	0	0
MTC1:		20	2	48.78
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		21	6	51.22

 

Thursday comps:

1.05x IF: ???

0.38x Kung Fu Panda 4: $1.46 Million

0.21x Wonka: $730k

1.38x Trolls 3: $1.79 Million

 

EA Comps:

0.72x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: ??

1.16x Fall Guy: $930k

2.21x Challengers: $1.21 Million

1.07x Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare (T-9): $640k

0.25x Dune Part 2 EA: $505k

0.85x Trolls (T-9): $990k

0.48x MI7: $960k

 

EA Average: $875k

 

Good EA numbers, but many of these comps were PLF-only EA, which this is not, so I think the ATP will be quite lower and that should be adjusted for. How exactly to do that? I'll let more capable minds figure that out  

[charlie Jatinder]

WOM seems meh though.

[HummingLemon496]

Just now, charlie Jatinder said:

WOM seems meh though.

Ouch 

[abracadabra1998]

23 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

Minnesota Previews:

 

Furiosa (T-15, Day 1):

Day: T-15	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 25 theaters	109	254	254	19652	1.29

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		226	226	88.98
MTC1:		148	148	58.27
Alamo:		49	49	19.29
Other chains:		57	57	22.44

 

Day 1 Comps:

0.83x GxK: $7.64 Million

0.61x Dune Part 2: $6.92 Million

1.25x BoSS: $7.19 Million

 

Reallyyyyyy good day 1 here, almost the opposite of Florida it seems lol. I want to note that: NO I do NOT think preview numbers will be that high; it's just highlighting the fact that this is likely a movie that will be running hot in my market, as cinephile blockbusters usually do. Next update tomorrow and I will have T-14 comps, which will be a lot lower due to the short release window.

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

Furiosa (T-14):

Day: T-15	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 25 theaters	109	62	316	19652	1.61

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		280	54	88.61
MTC1:		189	41	59.81
Alamo:		59	10	18.67
Other chains:		68	11	21.52

 

T-14 Comps:

0.8x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (w/ EA): ???

1.11x Fall Guy (w/ EA): $3.5 Million

0.85x Godzilla x Kong: $7.81 Million (17 theaters)

0.92x Ghostbusters Frozen Empire: $4.32 Million (17 theaters)

1.23x BoSS: $7.05 Million (17 theaters)

0.52x MI7 (TUE): $3.67 Million (17 theaters)

 

Average: $5.27 Million

 

Let's see where this converges as the days pass and release window matters a little less, but really good stuff in this market

[Alex SciChannel]

25 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

WOM seems meh though.

B+ cinemascore?

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes MTC1 Previews(T-1) - 43412/556762 821726.82 3010 shows

 

Walkups today were really good for early shows and so I think its going to finish around 80K and 1.4m at MTC1 and I am expecting 30% or tad lower and so 4.7m Thursday and with early shows around 6.1/6.2m previews. That said its possible that studio would just report thursday 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes MTC1

Previews Final - 90157/554693 1601556.21 3005 shows +46745

Friday - 74998/925379 1341643.00 5038 shows

 

It definitely blew up huge today. More than doubled the T-1. Friday was few hours ago. I am expecting lower ratio and so 5-5.25m Thursday only and another 1.4-1.5m for early shows yesterday. Friday will probably hit low teens and OW should hopefully cross 50m. 

[emoviefan]

43 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

WOM seems meh though.

Uh. Finally a movie with strong Walkups and a chance to over perform and people will not like it for whatever reason.

[AniNate]

Apes movies haven't typically had great legs

[MightyDargon]

....if we're going by IMDB or Letterboxd, it really doesn't look low.

I never trust RT audience scores anyway.

[emoviefan]

1 minute ago, MightyDargon said:

....if we're going by IMDB or Letterboxd, it really doesn't look low.

I never trust RT audience scores anyway.

Yeah it sounds like it takes it's time telling it's story and it's not all action action action which the trailers kind of sell it as. I am sure that is throwing some audiences. 

[MightyDargon]

People on here have a weird tendency to think "Cinemascore=gross" which isn't really true unless the movie in question gets an A (which is quite rare)

[AniNate]

Regardless of the cinemascore what I said above should still be a consideration. Think there is something of a rush factor here, especially since it's the first real "tentpole" movie of the summer, and I wouldn't be surprised by GxK legs

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[MightyDargon]

8 minutes ago, AniNate said:

Regardless of the cinemascore what I said above should still be a consideration. Think there is something of a rush factor here, especially since it's the first real "tentpole" movie of the summer, and I wouldn't be surprised by GxK legs

Yeah, that makes sense.

[AniNate]

For now it does look like movies are back. 

 

Hopefully IF performs more like the France opening than this thread's tracking comps next week

[Rorschach]

On 5/9/2024 at 12:22 AM, Rorschach said:

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - Wednesday Night Outlook

Friday:

4 IMAX showings: 47/1,552  

4 XD showings: 13/952

12 2D showings: 109/1,444

Total: 169/3,948 (4.3% sold) [+45]

 

Comp:

The Fall Guy: $14.6 mil

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - Thursday Night Outlook - Final

Cinemark Davenport 18 + IMAX

Friday:

4 IMAX showings: 69 (nice)/1,552  

4 XD showings: 21/952

12 2D showings: 178/1,444

Total: 268/3,948 (6.7% sold) [+99]

 

Comp:

The Fall Guy: $14.1 mil

 

Going off Deadline and Charlie's $6-7 mil projections, that would mean a ~$20-21m opening day. Roughly one or two million under War's unadjusted opening day.

Edited May 10 by Rorschach