Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Reddroast]

2 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

 

4 times the highest grossing film ever got sequels... THE GODFATHER, PART II, JAWS 2, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and THE LOST WORLD.

 

0% of them out-grossed the original.

Neither did star wars 8 or avengers 2

[ThomasNicole]

Isn't it 1B Budget for all 4? 

 

That's 250M per movie, he's fine 

 

But yeah around 2B seems right to me

[charlie Jatinder]

23 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

That is crazy high in this current market. I am happy with 1B OS plus 600m+ domestic.

My predicts OS adj for ER live

Edited November 8, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[XXR & Friends]

3 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

My predicts OS adj for ER live

 

I assume Japan is a typo. 

[charlie Jatinder]

1 minute ago, K'uk'ulkan XXR said:

 

I assume Japan is a typo. 

Yeah was missing a zero in lc$.

 

Hypothetically would have had China ~100M admits for ~$750M and Russia around 12M for ~$70M, i.e. $2.45B.

[Macleod]

1 hour ago, ThomasNicole said:

Isn't it 1B Budget for all 4? 

 

That's 250M per movie, he's fine 

 

But yeah around 2B seems right to me

 

No one knows the true numbers except for Mr. Cameron and a few involved.  😁 

But they haven't shot most of 4 and none of 5, yet.  They've only really fully shot 2 and 3. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Macleod

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

My predicts OS adj for ER live

Absolutely nonsensical prediction for India, Avengers Endgame is highest grosser at 63 million, and with current rates out would be less.

 

91 is..... 

[marveldcfox]

Jatinder being a Punjabi is going all out on India. Kitne shots maare ? Avatar 2 will clean up December and January. 

[ThomasNicole]

1 hour ago, Macleod said:

 

No one knows the true numbers except for Mr. Cameron and a few involved.  😁 

But they haven't shot most of 4 and none of 5, yet.  They've only really fully shot 2 and 3. 

I think the TotalFilm interview with Cameron said it´s a billie for all the 4 movies, i read earlier today 

 

But yes the exact numbers i think we´ll never know, but it´s probably around 250M each based on the estimative for all 4

[JustLurking]

1 hour ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Absolutely nonsensical prediction for India, Avengers Endgame is highest grosser at 63 million, and with current rates out would be less.

 

91 is..... 

With what he said about distribution rights in the India thread I can see the logic.

[WittyUsername]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Its a JIMBO BOMB for sure. with 600m Budget including marketing, possible china ban and no Russia release, Dollar being crazy strong and Europe going through crisis, economic headwinds almost everywhere,  its in trouble. 

 

As long its received well and has good legs(> 4x domestic) everywhere, Avatar 3/4 will hopefully help recover some of the mojo. 

 

I hope he makes a great movie. Disney can afford the write off 🙂

What is a Jimbo Bomb?

[Liiviig 1998]

4 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

My predicts OS adj for ER live

 

 

Some of those numbers seem high to me but let's see.

 

Personally thinking 1.3b+ OS -china.

[Georgy P]

1 hour ago, WittyUsername said:

What is a Jimbo Bomb?

A total disaster by Jimbo's standarts. Less than 2 billies WW.

[THUNDER BIRD]

2 hours ago, JustLurking said:

With what he said about distribution rights in the India thread I can see the logic.

Yes, but it's way too much. 

[SchumacherFTW]

7 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

Isn't it 1B Budget for all 4? 

 

That's 250M per movie, he's fine 

 

But yeah around 2B seems right to me

From the numbers I've heard, it's much closer to 1bn than 250m. 3 is less than 2 because a lot of tech leg work has been done here. 

Disney are betting big on this

Edited November 8, 2022 by SchumacherFTW

[Hatebox]

Totally forgot this was a Disney film. Boy, they just gorged on everything didn’t they? 

[IronJimbo]

52 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

Totally forgot this was a Disney film. Boy, they just gorged on everything didn’t they? 

 

I say this as if Disney is even a factor here. It's just Jim doing the usual, would have been the same if Fox wasn't bought by Disney.

 

I wouldn't be suprised if Jim has burned through $500m of the $1b production budget already, considering they completely filmed Avatar 3 already.

I'm not really sure how they monitor how much money was spent on Avatar 2, rather than 3, considering they were made together.

[charlie Jatinder]

1 hour ago, SchumacherFTW said:

From the numbers I've heard, it's much closer to 1bn than 250m. 3 is less than 2 because a lot of tech leg work has been done here. 

Disney are betting big on this

2 would be more because of delays as well. It will release after what? 8 years in production.

 

That said $1B would be including everything I believe, not just production.

Edited November 8, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[Alexdube]

6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

2 would be more because of delays as well. It will release after what? 8 years in production.

 

That said $1B would be including everything I believe, not just production.

Not that much. Production officially started in 2017 (after the scripts for 4 movies were done and the underwater capture technology ready). Then there was a 1 year delay because it was more work than they anticipated. The other delay was due to the covid situation.

 

All in all I'd say the production has gone relatively smoothly for a project of this size

Edited November 8, 2022 by Alexdube

[Macleod]

1 hour ago, Alexdube said:

Not that much. Production officially started in 2017 (after the scripts for 4 movies were done and the underwater capture technology ready). Then there was a 1 year delay because it was more work then they anticipated. The other delay was due to the covid situation.

 

All in all I'd say the production has gone relatively smoothly for a project of this size

 

Exactly.  You folks shouldn't get so tied up in exactly what money was spent how.  Just know that Cameron is efficient where he needs to be, spends where he needs to, and of course people trust him at this point to deliver.  And notice that the Walt Disney studio logo does *not* appear on the trailer(s) for AVATAR -- you can make an educated guess whose choice that was...  

Edited November 8, 2022 by Macleod