Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[marveldcfox]

A bunch of folks I know who have watched it, say it is visually nice and all, but not enough to keep you engaged for 3 hours. This really needed an editor who knows about pace.

[Madhuvan]

So even 2B seems tough

 

Ig James Cameron should have focused on this the way he is focusing on Part 4.

People needed something bonkers in story this time not at Part 4.

[nydedan]

Open with 9.42 out of 10 on Naver (Korean's Cinemascore or Rottentomato Audience Score I think? ) with 52 samples. Pretty good. 

[marveldcfox]

4 minutes ago, Madhuvan said:

So even 2B seems tough

 

Ig James Cameron should have focused on this the way he is focusing on Part 4.

People needed something bonkers in story this time not at Part 4.

Yeah...i think indian audience won't be kind to this if it has too much boring drama and family stuff and not enough action / whiz bang / explosions.

Let's see. The run time will hurt it. JC should have listened to the fox executive and shaved 30 mins of it.

[Madhuvan]

6 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

Yeah...i think indian audience won't be kind to this if it has too much boring drama and family stuff and not enough action / whiz bang / explosions.

Let's see. The run time will hurt it. JC should have listened to the fox executive and shaved 30 mins of it.

Disney is having this runtime problem a lot these days

Either it's too long or too short. 

[Porthos]

47 minutes ago, eXtacy said:

 

Midnight screening for a movie this length. Wow. I wouldnt do that for even my favorite franchises.

 

25 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

 

wuss

 

Back in the day I did the FOTR EE (3.5 hr) + TTT EE (3.75 hr) + ROTK (3.3 hr) Midnight Screening "Trilogy Tuesday".

 

THAT was an event!!!

Edited December 14, 2022 by Porthos

[Hatebox]

If I was an avatar fan who put any stock in RT I’d have absolutely taken these reviews a year ago. The critical backlash potential was massive, and it hasn’t happened. 

[kayumanggi]

😭😭😭

 

The showing I'm targeting is full. And the next. Wtf. I'm thinking of not working tonight to be able to see it. 😂

[IronJimbo]

48 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

A bunch of folks I know who have watched it, say it is visually nice and all, but not enough to keep you engaged for 3 hours. This really needed an editor who knows about pace.

honestly speaking, I don't believe you

[kayumanggi]

3 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

honestly speaking, I don't believe you

 

I concur.

[stephanos13]

Imagine if the reviews were actually bad what carnage BOF would have been.

 

It's mostly all positive and we still have overreactions here. Chill because we won't know much after the first weekend.

 

I will watch it on Tuesday most probably with a bunch of friends not on OW.

[Robertron]

Just sat down for my session. I cannot believe it’s actually happening. I am BEYOND excited. 
 

Numbers aside, it just feels good 😆

[Borobudur]

My session count down in 4 hours!

[IronJimbo]

2 minutes ago, Robertron said:

Just sat down for my session. I cannot believe it’s actually happening. I am BEYOND excited. 
 

Numbers aside, it just feels good 😆

enojy it fella

[Hatebox]

3 minutes ago, stephanos13 said:

Imagine if the reviews were actually bad what carnage BOF would have been.

I always have my fingers crossed for an RT meltdown and it would have been great for this, but it was always a long shot. Cameron’s too good at what he does. 

[Nero]

I would have watched it on OW but prices are ridiculous for IMAX. So I might have to wait for 2nd or 3rd week.

[Cap]

3 hours ago, stuart360 said:

I still dont know what negative comments Cameron said about Marvel but it was a bit silly by Jim to say whatever he said right before his new film is about to release.🙄

Marvel has nothing to do with this. I suspect it’s more about Cameron’s comments about “toxic masculinity” and “is the movie too woke”. That is what I was seeing on Twitter. 

 

2 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

If i call out their names, mr mod will cancel me. Such is the way of BOF.

 

hey, maybe if you weren’t trying to rile people up, you wouldn’t constantly get warned. You are teetering very, very close.
 

Re the run time:

 

and 2 1/2 hour, and even three hour movies, have become more common domestically, and the past five years. They are not a deterrent.
 

That said, they do create their own set of issues and releasing a three hour movie in December just exasperate the issues. I have shopping, decorating, parties, etc. scheduling a three hour movie might take a little bit of time. 

[Sheldon Cr]

On 12/12/2022 at 4:52 PM, danziger said:

I know these promotional interviews get tedious & repetitive but I thought this one with Sam Worthington and Cliff Curtis was interesting:

 

 

 

Cool 😎 checking it out now

[Mr Roark]

1 hour ago, marveldcfox said:

A bunch of folks I know who have watched it, say it is visually nice and all, but not enough to keep you engaged for 3 hours. This really needed an editor who knows about pace.

A friend of mine saw it last night and told me it feels like a 1.5 hours movie with a spectacular pace…

[danziger]

16 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

If I was an avatar fan who put any stock in RT I’d have absolutely taken these reviews a year ago. The critical backlash potential was massive, and it hasn’t happened. 

 

Yeah, that's clear from how critics are saying TWOW is way better than Avatar, yet it's cratered on MC compared to Avatar and based on usual trends will probably fall below it on RT as well. No movie has been more creatively pummeled over the last decade than Avatar. Yes, tons of movies get far worse reviews, but they are quickly forgotten. Avatar we're constantly told year after year day after day that "no one cares about Avatar, it sucks, no one wants these sequels." So you're right that the potential for the sequel to get trashed by critics was huge.