Chewy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Ah the old "back in my day movies sold more tickets so these numbers aren't impressive" argument. You had to know that one was coming 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, tokila said: How so? Really bad storms in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirafficPark Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, Chewy said: Ah the old "back in my day movies sold more tickets so these numbers aren't impressive" argument. You had to know that one was coming No one seriously said its not impressive, we just arent wetting ourselves over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, tokila said: How so? Because the weather is going off. Blizzard watch, tornado's, flooding, you name it, it's happening in Texas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 10 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: For older big blockbusters you can definitely adjust for 3D, expanded IMAX, and expanded PLF. But how would you do so? Different movies do different amounts in 3D, IMAX, and PLF. If you're adjusting it to the average ticket price, you are adjusting it to IMAX, 3D, and PLF factored in. If you adjusted it higher than the average ticket price, then you are over adjusting the movie and giving it a bigger advantage over the newer movie you're comparing it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyneOh1040 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 26 minutes ago, Maxmoser3 said: I agree with your rating, but I disagree about Baby Mama to me I thought that movie wasn't really that funny. That's kind of what I meant, honestly. I can watch it because of Fey/Poehler but it's way more miss than hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathlife Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 When the discussion shifts to "tickets sold" and "adjusting for inflation", you know the movie in question is smashing all the relevant records. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 minute ago, The Panda Menace said: But how would you do so? Different movies do different amounts in 3D, IMAX, and PLF. If you're adjusting it to the average ticket price, you are adjusting it to IMAX, 3D, and PLF factored in. If you adjusted it higher than the average ticket price, then you are over adjusting the movie and giving it a bigger advantage over the newer movie you're comparing it to. Agree to disagree and let's leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, GirafficPark said: No one seriously said its not impressive, we just arent wetting ourselves over it. K. Not sure that there's a practical difference there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinksterAC Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 12 minutes ago, Ozymandias said: Is Sunday being low balled? Personally, I think Saturday AND Sunday are being low-balled, and we'll get close to $160M (more like $158M or $159M) when it's all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Who was that guy who kept crapping on Avengers numbers? He was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 58 minutes ago, tokila said: thanks, mind bringing over Netherlands-Ven too.... I am terrrible sorry, but i do not understand that. 27 minutes ago, corngrower87 said: Agreed. I know I remember following several movies' theatrical runs and the few that did hit $500 million, it seems like it took forever for them to get there. BTW, this is my first post. I have enjoyed visiting the forums, and following the box office here for quite a while. Finally I decided to join. 5 minutes ago, GirafficPark said: 'Insiders' have a bias. Hollywood will never admit its output is stale and lacking quality, and it will also never admit that piracy has very little to no effect on first run BO performance. It hypes piracy and competition in a bid to deflect from the first point. wow.... one brush off hand-wave,.... fast jumos to conclusions never mentioned too Bias pur and YOU are complaining in other posts about ignored corner stones...? hmmmm are you one of the very few of the banned ones? Not even interested in that anwer anymore... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Lightning Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 10 minutes ago, GirafficPark said: 'Insiders' have a bias. Hollywood will never admit its output is stale and lacking quality, and it will also never admit that piracy has very little to no effect on first run BO performance. It hypes piracy and competition in a bid to deflect from the first point. You do realize that your ticket sales point makes Star Wars numbers even more impressive? The fact that it is selling the same amount of tickets as the biggest films in the 90's and some of the largest ones in the 70's and 80's is astounding. Especially considering as you've said that ticket sales aren't as they used to be. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, Orestes said: Who was that guy who kept crapping on Avengers numbers? He was the best. RTX! I remember cuz his name was only one letter away from Rth and people kept confusing the 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntaxerror Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Hopefully actuals come in at 160; Sat was lower than Rth's estimate so I can see that being lowballed, and Disney has made it a habit to lowball Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted December 27, 2015 Community Manager Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, 1Robert1 said: Just don't forget how many people lived in usa in 80s and how many lives now... 1) TPM was '99. 2) Any population increase is of course offset by the increasing competition since '99 including on demand, more television channels, an even larger video game market, tablets, smart phones, etc. 3) Overall ticket sales have fallen in '99 so even with the population increase, it only makes it more impressive when you can sell tickets on a massive scale. 4) USA Population in 2000: 282.2 million. USA population in 2010: 309.3 million. 27.1 million is a lot of people, yes, but not enough to make your point especially due to points 2 and 3. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxRox Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Repeating my simple analysis of using BOM's adjusted numbers and subtracting newer films to see where blockbusters were on the all-time adjusted list after their second weekend: TFA - #47 JW - #104 SM2 - #109 Avengers - #114 TPM - #118 TDK - #123 SM - #124 ROTS - #127 DMC - #148 ROTK - #151 T:ROTF -#156 AOTC looked to be around #170 on the adjusted list at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 "I know TFA is doing historically great numbers in an era when historically great numbers no longer happen. But I'd like to take this opportunity to posit that these dang kids and their dang cruddy newfangled movies are the reason ticket sales are universally way way down, not all of these other factors that have actually been proven to attract viewers away from cinemas" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 So when a movie is crushing Records most days of the week, opening weekend, first Sunday, previews, and is fastest to a billion and so on and so on, what part of that is not impressive? And to use your turn, wettng yourself, what would cause you to wet yourself if this isn't? 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 To all those doubting $900M+, here's the deal: The 2nd Week-end of the latest big blockbusters, Jurassic World and Avengers (1st one), had their second week-ends = ~15.6% of their total gross (In fact, no movie with a second week-end greater than 60 M had a total gross of more than 20% of their second week-end) So, applying those numbers to Star Wars we get $153,522,000 / 0.156 = $984,115,384 And that's assuming Star Wars follows Jurassic World and Avengers. It's much more hyped up than them, at least I think, but that's for another day... source: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/moreweekends.htm?page=2&p=.htm Let's calculate Star Wars's total with Avatar's second week-end-to-total ratio, for fun. 153,522,000 / 0.101 = 1,520,019,802 Avatar is ridiculous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
