Weekend Actuals (Page 29): Split 40M | xXx 20.1M | Hidden Figures 15.7M | Sing 9M | La La Land 8.4M | The Founder 3.4M

[Celedhring]

6 hours ago, Maxmoser3 said:

2002: the release of Resident Evil, The Ring, xXx, a Shyamalan thriller, and a Spider Man film.

2017: The release of Resident Evil, The Ring, xXx, a Shyamalan thriller, and a Spider Man film.

yes we are frozen in time. Except all of them were hits in 2002, and only two will be hits in 2017.

 

Both xXx's were also greenlit on the back of successful Fast and Furious films. Hollywood reuses plotlines both on and off the screen!

[robertman2]

1 hour ago, Maxmoser3 said:

Universal did successful marketing on Split, they released the trailer in late July. It was popular on social media, and then they started to have TV spots start in early December. Then lots of advertisements on shows like The New Celebrity Apprentice, and some stuff on Comedy Central. Get Out is next, not as big but will make a killing at the box office. Then the next big horrror film won't be until Annabelle 2 in August.

??

[alisson23]

1 hour ago, Celedhring said:

 

While home video indeed has costs, otoh TV/streaming rights remain surprisingly profitable - the costs there are practically zero. 85m is actually a very reasonable play for a film that should have a good run OS, which in turn paves the way for decent home and video sales in those markets. I think the film indeed barely breaks even at 200m - which already is far from flopping - and I think it will go a bit above that, which should ensure a modest profit. 50 DOM + The Last Witch Hunter OS already puts the film at 200m, and xXx3 should have more appeal to OS F&F fans than The Last Witch Hunter had. 

 

Don´t get me wrong, I'm just saying that exact "200M" WW is closer to giving loss to the studio than "far" as baumer spoke here. 

 

HV WW costs should be 20M
109.5 exposed
Others earnings:
+ ~25M from DOM HV(Including VOD)
+ ~20M from DOM TV(Pay + Network)
+ ~30M from OS HV
+ ~40M from OS TV

= ~115M and I am being generous

 

~5.5M of profit

 

Well, these numbers are generally proportional to movie box office. TVs usually do not pay much money for the right of a movie flopped at the box office, for example. What I mean is that 200M at BO is closer to giving loss to Paramount than far. If it does a little less at box office and the other numbers (HV, TV) fell proportionately, it would give loss to the studio.

If you're curious about movie profit, take a look at these articles:

http://deadline.com/2016/03/movie-profits-2015-paper-towns-insidious-chapter-3-second-best-exotic-marigold-hotel-1201725853/
http://deadline.com/tag/movie-profits/

They do not show the exact numbers, but they are estimatives.

Edited January 22, 2017 by alisson23

[narniadis]

Allison, that would all be fine and good but the way that BOX OFFICE profit has always been calculated as far as assigning bomb or loss status is 2x the stated budget. Neither of you are wrong, but you are trying to change the way the numbers are looked at and it isn't going to work. Ancillary finances are taken into account at the front not at the end of the discussion of the budget otherwise the budget would be different.

 

The studio gets a pass on this film.

[Arlborn]

1 hour ago, James said:

Off topic, but I just finished rewatching X-Men: Apocalypse. It might actually be my favorite X-Men movie and it's definitely the best CBM from lat year. It it so damn fun! I want a Dark Pheonix saga! Fox needs to make one where they actually concentrate on it! And I hope Fassbender returns. Magneto might have killed millions of people, but he's still so damn likable.

Definitely the best CBM from last year, yup.

 

Dark Phoenix saga next was the plan all along and since the sequel seems to start shooting in April it seems there won't be any sort of reboot so these plans should be followed through. I'm really hoping for that as well, that ending set it up perfectly.

 

Here's the article about the shooting date and the (possibly temporary)name of the sequel:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/a-new-listing-may-have-uncovered-the-title-of-the-next-x-men-film-plus-a148016

 

Here's the link to its thread on BOT:

 

[Jandrew]

@MrPink You going to support your boy Donnie in XXX or nah?

[alisson23]

24 minutes ago, narniadis said:

Allison, that would all be fine and good but the way that BOX OFFICE profit has always been calculated as far as assigning bomb or loss status is 2x the stated budget. Neither of you are wrong, but you are trying to change the way the numbers are looked at and it isn't going to work. Ancillary finances are taken into account at the front not at the end of the discussion of the budget otherwise the budget would be different.

 

The studio gets a pass on this film.

Well, you're right, I prefer the "2x the budget" rule than the ridiculous rule of "need to break even on the BO to make profit", conveniently used when Bvs and Suicide Squad were on release. I just questioned "xXx being far from being a flop with 200M WW (only 30M more than 2x budget rule)" because studios receive a higher percentage DOM than OS and xXx is not going to make big numbers DOM, not to mention I believe that much of the xXx OS box office will come from China, which studios receive only ~25% of the box office. But anyway, I agree with you and I believe that xXx will do a good business (more than 200M WW too) 

[trifle]

9 hours ago, Finnick said:

FRIDAY ESTIMATION: HAIL Mr M. Night Shyamalan!!!!

 

TD	YD	Title (Click to View)	Studio	Daily Gross	% +/- YD / LW		Theaters / Avg		Gross To-Date	Day
1	-	Split	Uni.	$14,600,000	-	-	3,038	$4,806	$14,600,000	1
2	-	xXx: The Return of Xander Cage	Par.	$7,150,000	-	-	3,651	$1,958	$7,150,000	1
3	1	Hidden Figures	Fox	$4,425,000	+143%	-20%	3,416	$1,295	$72,413,751	27
4	2	La La Land	LG/S	$2,420,000	+103%	-41%	1,865	$1,298	$83,750,497	43
5	5	Sing	Uni.	$1,890,000	+251%	-36%	3,193	$592	$242,215,195	31
6	3	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	BV	$1,743,000	+85%	-47%	2,603	$670	$506,908,563	36
7	4	Patriots Day	LGF	$1,610,000	+103%	-61%	3,120	$516	$19,249,945	31
8	9	Monster Trucks	Par.	$1,400,000	+294%	-46%	3,119	$449	$15,760,554	8
9	11	The Bye Bye Man	STX	$1,110,000	+263%	-80%	2,220	$500	$17,669,630	8
10	6	Sleepless	ORF	$1,005,001	+135%	-67%	1,803	$557	$12,491,905	8
11	-	The Founder	Wein.	$1,005,000	+79,284%	-	1,115	$901	$1,006,266	1
12	10	Passengers (2016)	Sony	$660,000	+102%	-56%	1,556	$424	$92,893,188	31
-	8	Live By Night	WB	$500,000	+39%	-74%	2,822	$177	$8,167,349	27
-	-	Moana	BV	$475,000	+116%	-42%	1,296	$367	$234,749,702	59
-	-	Lion	Wein.	$461,000	+98%	-23%	575	$802	$15,043,530	57
-	7	Underworld: Blood Wars	SGem	$460,000	+26%	-74%	1,466	$314	$27,370,959	15
-	-	The Resurrection of Gavin Stone	HTR	$380,000	-	-	887	$428	$380,000	1
-	-	Why Him?	Fox	$355,000	+91%	-67%	1,034	$343	$57,220,458	29
-	12	Fences	Par.	$340,000	+33%	-56%	693	$491	$47,839,684	36
-	-	Silence (2016)	Par.	$317,000	+97%	-52%	1,580	$201	$4,325,353	29
-	-	Arrival	Par.	$86,000	+95%	-41%	180	$478	$95,435,632	71
-	-	Doctor Strange	BV	$39,000	+127%	-24%	132	$295	$231,384,380	78

 

The problem here is that even though Bye Bye Man dropped below Passengers the second day, Passengers can't get those screens back.  Oh well.

 

That is, assuming I'm reading the order right? The 911 for Bye Bye Man and the 1210 for Passengers?

Edited January 22, 2017 by trifle

[alisson23]

9 minutes ago, trifle said:

 

The problem here is that even though Bye Bye Man dropped below Passengers the second day, Passengers can't get those screens back.  Oh well.

 

That is, assuming I'm reading the order right? The 911 for Bye Bye Man and the 1210 for Passengers?

 

Today: #9 BBM  and #12 Passengers

Yesterday: #11 BBM and #10 PA

[MrPink]

21 minutes ago, jandrew said:

@MrPink You going to support your boy Donnie in XXX or nah?

 

My moviegoing habits have taken a supreme blow which makes this not feasible 

[CJohn]

11 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

My moviegoing habits have taken a supreme blow which makes this not feasible 

The backstabbing continues. The list keeps growing.

[trifle]

23 minutes ago, alisson23 said:

 

Today: #9 BBM  and #12 Passengers

Yesterday: #11 BBM and #10 PA

 

Bummed.  I liked it better the other way!

[Napoleon]

Dead at Split's OD number. I didn't think the premise of this movie would generate that much interest.

 

Shyamalan continues to slay us all. 

[Fancyarcher]

Saw Hidden Figures. Very good film. Just kind of the inspirational film that we need right now. 

[DAR]

10 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Dead at Split's OD number. I didn't think the premise of this movie would generate that much interest.

 

Shyamalan continues to slay us all. 

Well I would say he's back to slaying

[WrathOfHan]

You guys can laugh at me all you want, but Split is easily up there with The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable.

[filmlover]

29 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

You guys can laugh at me all you want, but Split is easily up there with The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable.

I'm half-laughing at you. It doesn't hold a candle to The Sixth Sense (it is on par with Unbreakable, though).

[Finnick]

58 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

You guys can laugh at me all you want, but Split is easily up there with The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable.

We have been talking about the Sixth Sense for about 20 years and still. In two months no body will give a shit about Split. It is not about numbers Wrath!!!!

[franfar]

1 hour ago, WrathOfHan said:

You guys can laugh at me all you want, but Split is easily up there with The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable.

In terms of cultural impact? Unlikely. Sixth Sense is a classic of the thriller film genre

[WrathOfHan]

3 minutes ago, Finnick said:

We have been talking about the Sixth Sense for about 20 years and still. In two months no body will give a shit about Split. It is not about numbers Wrath!!!!

 

1 minute ago, franfar said:

In terms of cultural impact? Unlikely. Sixth Sense is a classic of the thriller film genre

I'm talking about quality here, folks.