The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[charlie Jatinder]

2 minutes ago, RockyMountain said:

True. And three of those movies were the Avengers movies. Movies that were pretty much must see for all the fans of the various super heroes that were within the MCU.

question is about quantity. SW had 3 films since TFA, 1 being an episode film, say Avengers tier, while RO & Solo being stuff like BP, CM, Civil War, etc, so that's certainly not an excuse.

[RockyMountain]

7 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said:

question is about quantity. SW had 3 films since TFA, 1 being an episode film, say Avengers tier, while RO & Solo being stuff like BP, CM, Civil War, etc, so that's certainly not an excuse.

Yeah but the difference was that Rogue One has nothing to do with the ST. It was just an event that happened in the past. CM and BP on the other hand were going to be in the Avengers movies. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by RockyMountain

[Menor the Destroyer]

This discussion is verging on fan war territory so maybe better to take it to that thread.

[Eric Prime]

2 minutes ago, Menor said:

This discussion is verging on fan war territory so maybe better to take it to that thread.

Agreed.

 

Moderation

 

@Jedi Jat @RockyMountain We don't need to talk about power levels of multi-media franchises that generate billions every year in this thread. Simmer down.

[charlie Jatinder]

Sorry for that.

[RockyMountain]

Yep. Sounds good. Sorry.

[infamous5445]

What are the top 5 movies with the highest midnight previews? Endgame and TFA are #1 and #2, but what are the next 3?

[Taruseth]

11 minutes ago, infamous5445 said:

What are the top 5 movies with the highest midnight previews? Endgame and TFA are #1 and #2, but what are the next 3?

Neither of those had midnight previews, for midnight previews it would still be the final Harry Potter movie (DH2).

If you want to know about overall previews, the list would go as follows:

Endgame: $60M

TFA: $57M

TLJ: $45M

DH2: $43.5M 

IW: $39M

 

TDKR: $30.64M

3 Twillight movies between 30 and 30.25M are #7-9

[Cooper Legion]

4 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

3 Twillight movies between 30 and 30.25M are #7-9

I forgot about their uncanny consistency 🤣  

 

Even if final week pops less than hoped, easy #6 for TROS. #3 perfectly in reach on the high end.

[infamous5445]

15 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Neither of those had midnight previews, for midnight previews it would still be the final Harry Potter movie (DH2).

If you want to know about overall previews, the list would go as follows:

Endgame: $60M

TFA: $57M

TLJ: $45M

DH2: $43.5M 

IW: $39M

 

TDKR: $30.64M

3 Twillight movies between 30 and 30.25M are #7-9

Sorry, meant Thursday previews

Edited December 1, 2019 by infamous5445

[Eric Prime]

 

I'm ready.

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1704

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1738

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
8731	85	22870	38.18%	9	182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 21.19M

Final Maleficent count comp: 24.76M

Final IT 2 count comp: 23.61M

Final Hobbs count comp: 24.68M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 25.14M

Final Lion King count comp: 26.47M

 

Average: 24.31M

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1715

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1752

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
8813	82	22870	38.54%	9	182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 21.39M

Final Maleficent count comp: 24.99M

Final IT 2 count comp: 23.83M

Final Hobbs count comp: 24.91M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 25.41M

Final Lion King count comp: 26.72M

 

Average: 24.54M

[ZackM]

The Rise of Skywalker - Various theater chains (Michigan) - Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 days and counting

 

	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	0	0	0	0	0
Seats Added	17	3	2	1	-1
Seats Sold	218	168	158	163	105
12/1/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	237	27,878	41,883	14,005	33.44%

[MattW]

12/13/2019	Jumanji: The Next Level	$40,000,000 – $60,000,000	$50,000,000	-29%	$225,000,000 – $275,000,000			Sony / Columbia

 

I don't see why this will have legs that are so much better than the hobbit movies.  Hobbit 2 opened on Dec 13 and didn't have a massive opener the following week and got a 3.5x multi.  I full expect Jumanji to be in the 3-4 range, 60/240 is a best case scenario, 50/175 seems much more likely.  As a number of other people have said opening the week after TLJ in 2017, esp given the latter's disappointments, is what gave it the edge.  This one opening before TRoS is all downside.

[Eric Prime]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-18 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	165	9,674	30,741	31.47%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 78

 

Comp

5.086x of Once Upon’s final count (29.5M)

2.793x of It: Chapter Two (29.32M)

1.970x of Joker (26.20M)

13.879x of Maleficent (31.92M)

11.107x of Terminator (26.1M)

2.878x of Frozen II (24.46M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.836x of Lion King (19.22M)

3.966x of Hobbs & Shaw (23M)

[Eric Prime]

1 hour ago, MattW said:

12/13/2019	Jumanji: The Next Level	$40,000,000 – $60,000,000	$50,000,000	-29%	$225,000,000 – $275,000,000			Sony / Columbia

 

I don't see why this will have legs that are so much better than the hobbit movies.  Hobbit 2 opened on Dec 13 and didn't have a massive opener the following week and got a 3.5x multi.  I full expect Jumanji to be in the 3-4 range, 60/240 is a best case scenario, 50/175 seems much more likely.  As a number of other people have said opening the week after TLJ in 2017, esp given the latter's disappointments, is what gave it the edge.  This one opening before TRoS is all downside.

To be fair, Hobbit/LOTR has an audience that is much more invested in seeing the film upfront compared to Jumanji, which is much more of a "see it when you get to it" kind of film. A multiplier above Into the Spider-Verse would surprise me though.

[keysersoze123]

Quick update on SW9 previews.

 

SW9 Previews (T-18)

MTC1 - overall 5130 shows 309018/856207 4616602.65 +5138
MTC2 - overall 3058 shows 202956/448122 2586595.00 +7572

 

Really good increase in under day and half. I wonder what was the catalyst. There was no major increase in show counts as well. That will happen in the final week.

[MrGlass2]

11 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Really good increase in under day and half. I wonder what was the catalyst.

TV spots? It seems they're releasing a new one every day lately.

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	209	11028	24474	13446	54.94%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

112

 

T-18 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-18	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	367.80		23	3485		2/83	7220/10704	32.55%		76.13m
EG	73.45		204	17449		8/221	5675/23024	75.79%		44.08m
TROS (adj)	n/a		98	12818		2/209	10394/23212	55.22%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame. 

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-18 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-18	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
IW	157.27		74	7253		2/116	3872/11125	65.20%		61.34m
Solo	391.59		122	2913		0/87	6435/9348	31.16%		55.21m
TROS (adj)	n/a		89	11407		2/209	7686/19093	59.74%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War and Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

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	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
IW	75.25		15159		11407		29.35m
DP2	140.26		8133		11407		26.09m
Solo	197.05		5789		11407		27.78m
JW:FK	183.16		6228		11407		28.02m
AM&tW	247.71		4605		11407		28.49m
Venom	265.35		4493		11922		26.53m
CM	121.46		10553		12818		25.14m
EG	48.90		26655		12818		28.85m
TLK	116.77		10977		12818		26.86m
It 2	237.60		5659		13446		24.95m
AVG							27.21m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

 

[keysersoze123]

14 minutes ago, Porthos said:

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	209	11028	24474	13446	54.94%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

112

 

T-18 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-18	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	367.80		23	3485		2/83	7220/10704	32.55%		76.13m
EG	73.45		204	17449		8/221	5675/23024	75.79%		44.08m
TROS (adj)	n/a		98	12818		2/209	10394/23212	55.22%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame. 

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-18 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-18	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
IW	157.27		74	7253		2/116	3872/11125	65.20%		61.34m
Solo	391.59		122	2913		0/87	6435/9348	31.16%		55.21m
TROS (adj)	n/a		89	11407		2/209	7686/19093	59.74%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War and Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

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	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
IW	75.25		15159		11407		29.35m
DP2	140.26		8133		11407		26.09m
Solo	197.05		5789		11407		27.78m
JW:FK	183.16		6228		11407		28.02m
AM&tW	247.71		4605		11407		28.49m
Venom	265.35		4493		11922		26.53m
CM	121.46		10553		12818		25.14m
EG	48.90		26655		12818		28.85m
TLK	116.77		10977		12818		26.86m
It 2	237.60		5659		13446		24.95m
AVG							27.21m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

 

Good that EG comps have started. Question is cant it stay ahead of EG relative numbers to improve comps. It will as EG had smaller room to maneavore. I still think 50m previews can happen. Let us see how things move.