The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[StarWarsMemer]

over half of seats were sold at mtc2 for tros.

[charlie Jatinder]

I guess tickets weren't as high as we expected. May be prior to 6 PM shows thing. Wanna comment @keysersoze123

[charlie Jatinder]

Just a query. Do shows start in West Cost at same time as East coast as in say 7PM in both. I mean that would make sense for a small film but...

In a film like Endgame, no one would want to wait for a film 3 hour more in same countries just because of stupid timezone. 

 

So do they play films say at 4 in West and 7 in East.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Jedi Jat

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said:

Just a query. Do shows start in West Cost at same time as East coast as in say 7PM in both. I mean that would make sense for a small film but...

In a film like Endgame, no one would want to wait for a film 3 hour more in same countries just because of stupid timezone. 

 

So do they play films say at 4 in West and 7 in East.

Nope.  It's always according to local time.  Only exceptions are if a live event is being broadcast to a theater.

[Porthos]

I would also add that "those stupid timezones" often mean that people are still at work or coming home for work.   Or even in school for the earlier showings.

 

As it is, 4pm and 5pm are already sacrificing people who are at work or in traffic and so forth.

[Legion Again]

Happened to be in Vermont for Endgame, first in US showing. Usually I am 3 hours late

[Eric Duncan]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-6 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	171	11,840	31,845	37.18%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 259

 

T-6 Comp

9.801x of It: Chapter Two 6 days before release (102.91M)

9.122x of Frozen II 6 days before release (77.53M)

 

T-6 Adjusted Comp

2.676x of Lion King 6 days before release (61.55M)

 

Final Count Comp

6.225x of Once Upon’s final count (36.10M)

3.418x of It: Chapter Two (35.89M)

2.411x of Joker (32.07M)

16.987x of Maleficent (39.07M)

13.594x of Terminator (31.94M)

3.523x of Frozen II (29.94M)

 

Final Count Adjusted Comp

1.066x of Lion King (24.51M)

5.058x of Hobbs & Shaw (29.34M)

[charlie Jatinder]

T-7 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

 

MTC 1: $21.5mn Approx

 

At same time

Endgame: $34.5mn

TFA: $26mn

TLJ: $24mn

Rogue One: $13mn

 

MTC 2: $12.25mn

 

At same time

Endgame: $20mn

 

Nationwide estimates

Previews: $21mn

Friday: $19mn

Saturday: $15mn

Sunday: $8.5mn // $63.5mn

 

Rest: $12mn // $75.5mn

 

At same time

Endgame: $120mn

TFA: $87mn

TLJ: $80mn

 

Note: All these numbers include a good amount of estimation. The system is working well but there's always margin of error, take +/-5%.

 

As always thank the guys @keysersoze123 & @Menor

Edited December 14, 2019 by Jedi Jat

[Ryan Reynolds]

what does MTC mean?

[narniadis]

So its not "largely" behind TLJ based on your estimates but its not catching up.... sigh would really like it to get to 200m just for a statistic point. 

[narniadis]

1 minute ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

what does MTC mean?

Major Theater Chain

We have 2 that members here track in major depth. 

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just now, narniadis said:

Major Theater Chain

We have 2 that members here track in major depth. 

AMC and Cinemark or Regal?

[narniadis]

4 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

AMC and Cinemark or Regal?

They prefer to not name them for sake of trying to keep questions from outsiders down. MTC1 has always been AMC though going back to Notfabio and other older tracking thats no longer around. 

But you arent wrong if you have time earlier discussions a month or so ago would give you insight into the change. 

Edited December 14, 2019 by narniadis

[keysersoze123]

On 12/12/2019 at 10:08 PM, keysersoze123 said:

SW9(T-7)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5270 shows 357528/870603 5315830.04  +6373
MTC2 Prev - overall 3123 shows 236135/454177 2973564.00 +4081
MTC1 OD - overall 5414 shows 281252/1100007 4317374.90 +8994
MTC2 OD - overall 4554 shows 217401/742972 2410921.00 +6576
MTC1 D2 - overall 5354 shows 233414/1090392 3413505.29 +7234
MTC2 D2 - overall 4511 shows 177978/735929 1917647.00 +4140
MTC1 D3 - overall 5184 shows 136160/1054921 1988682.60 +5526 
MTC2 D3 - overall 4493 shows 100023/740067 1039860.00 +5273

 

Slightly down from yesterday

SW9(T-6)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5358 shows 366249/881017 5439991.57 +8721
MTC2 Prev - overall 3137 shows 241807/455383 3039570.00 +5672
MTC1 OD- overall 5431 shows 292283/1103272 4469443.03 +11031
MTC2 OD - overall 4640 shows 226984/753840 2508458.00 +9583
MTC1 D2 - overall 5367 shows 241958/1092835 3529700.62  +8544
MTC2 D2 - overall 4591 shows 185451/745714 1996539.00  +7473
MTC1 D3 - overall 5194 shows 142265/1056904 2074260.22 +5105
MTC2 D3 - overall 4580 shows 105245/749434 1091843.00 +5222

 

Really good increase compared to yesterday.

[DAJK]

Wouldn't be surprised if ROS previews fall in the 37-40M range at this point. 175-185 OW is still massive, but yea, if this doesn't rebound like revenge of the sith did I'd say it was a marketing failure. Palpatine = cool gimmic, but beyond that it's hard to tell what fans and audiences want. 

[Ryan Reynolds]

4 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Wouldn't be surprised if ROS previews fall in the 37-40M range at this point. 175-185 OW is still massive, but yea, if this doesn't rebound like revenge of the sith did I'd say it was a marketing failure. Palpatine = cool gimmic, but beyond that it's hard to tell what fans and audiences want. 

no one expected an opening above TLJ, its about the legs, but below 200m OW would be worrisome to Disney

[Legion Again]

2 minutes ago, DAJK said:

but beyond that it's hard to tell what fans and audiences want. 

Pssh, it’s easy. All they want is a fun but thoughtful movie that spends time developing characters but also doesn’t change them too much, that builds upon but also completely rejects TLJ, that respects the original trilogy characters without having them draw too much focus, that respects the PT without trying to pretend it was good, that makes Reylo shippers happy, that makes Reylo haters happy, that’s a conclusive ending but also leaves the door open for more, that finally gives a satisfying answer to mystery boxes without removing them of their mystery or contradicting TLJ, that has real stakes but also doesn’t kill any characters that they like, that gives Rose an actual reason to exist but doesn’t focus on her too much, that makes Finn and Poe a couple but doesn’t do anything gay, that makes Palpatine feel like  real threat while also definitively disposing of him at the end. Oh, and that does but doesn’t have Ewoks.
 

 I mean really, is that so hard?

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	6	213	9129	24698*	15569	63.04%

SELLOUT NOTE:  If a showing only has wheelchair and/or wheelchair companion seats left, it is counted as a sellout

* One theater adjusted their seat maps resulting in two more seats being available region wide.

 

Total Sellouts Added Today	1
Total Seats Sold Today	214

 

T-6 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL FOR CM - DON'T USE THERE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	301.97		241	4925		0/129	8571/13496	36.49%		62.51m
EG	75.52		223	19692		20/243	4884/24576	80.13%		45.31m
TROS (adj)	n/a		210	14872		6/213	8578/23450	63.42%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame. 

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-6 Adjusted Comp #2

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Solo	336.80		82	3829		1/92	6317/10146	37.74%		47.49m
TROS (adj)	n/a		162	12896		5/213	6407/19303	66.81%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

Spoiler

of:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
DP2	160.56		8133		13058		29.86m
Solo	225.57		5789		13058		31.80m
JW:FK	209.67		6228		13058		32.08m
AM&tW	283.56		4605		13058		32.61m
Venom	307.75		4493		13827		30.77m
CM	140.93		10553		14872		29.17m
EG	55.79		26655		14872		33.48m
TLK	135.48		10977		14872		31.16m
It 2	275.12		5659		15569		28.89m
AVG							31.09m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Porthos

[DAJK]

3 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

Pssh, it’s easy. All they want is a fun but thoughtful movie that spends time developing characters but also doesn’t change them too much, that builds upon but also completely rejects TLJ, that respects the original trilogy characters without having them draw too much focus, that respects the PT without trying to pretend it was good, that makes Reylo shippers happy, that makes Reylo haters happy, that’s a conclusive ending but also leaves the door open for more, that finally gives a satisfying answer to mystery boxes without removing them of their mystery or contradicting TLJ, that has real stakes but also doesn’t kill any characters that they like, that gives Rose an actual reason to exist but doesn’t focus on her too much, that makes Finn and Poe a couple but doesn’t do anything gay, that makes Palpatine feel like  real threat while also definitively disposing of him at the end. Oh, and that does but doesn’t have Ewoks.
 

 I mean really, is that so hard?

I mean here's the thing tho. "Reylo shippers" or "Reylo haters" are a loud but vocal minority on the internet. The majority of audiences don't care. Only hardcore fans are calling for a true rejection of TLJ; they can easily build on it while not going in the same direction. 

 

As far as respecting the PT... I think trying to ignore everything about it has been a mistake on Disney's part. I won't go into a lot of the other points you've made (but I totally understand them), the thing is that a professional writer should be able to at least address these issues in a 2 hour script, and a marketing team should be able to make an appealing-looking movie. I loved the latest trailer, but buzz has been somewhat muted. 

[Legion Again]

Tbh it was more intended to be a potpourri of deliberately unsatisfiable pairs of opposites than any kind of real mission statement 😛