The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Wednesday

MTC1 - 75286/630752 1092236.70 3552 shows

MTC2 - 61409/651594 656408.69 4510 shows

Since I planned to track Shang Chi fri/sat, I thought it was worth to get thursday numbers just to see how the friday compares to thursday. 

 

Shang Chi Thursday

MTC1 - 61991/613764 903655.00 3418 shows

MTC2 - 50724/637690 543003.72 4422 shows

 

Well drop from yesterday at both the MTC seem almost on the dot(around 17.3%). Hoping the MTC share goes down further as overall drop yesterday was much better than what MTC indicated. Let us hope for thursday above 4m. 

[Eric Loves Rey]

On 9/8/2021 at 10:17 PM, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-22 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	88	229	19301	1.19%

 

Comp

0.281x of Black Widow's First Day of Presales (3.71M)

0.170x of Black Widow T-22 (2.25M)

1.974x of The Suicide Squad T-22 (8.09M)

0.449x of Shang-Chi's First Day of Presales (3.95M)

 

Despite being a sequel, I do think Venom 2 isn't a perfect comp with the MCU titles, as those just simply put have a bigger fanbase and fan rush towards them IMO that Venom won't really get this early on. I do however think The Suicide Squad works here and so far, that is an...okay preview number, even if it would cause a decrease in OW. How big a decrease, and whether a decrease should be expected or disappointing or whatever is up to you.

 

Either way, not the greatest start in the world, but nothing that can't be improved upon.

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-21 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	88	301	19301	1.56%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 72

 

Comp

0.611x of F9 T-21 (4.34M)

0.317x of Black Widow's First Two Days of Presales (4.19M)

0.212x of Black Widow T-21 (2.81M)

1.835x of The Suicide Squad T-21 (7.52M)

0.426x of Shang-Chi's First Two Days of Presales (3.75M)

[charlie Jatinder]

9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Well drop from yesterday at both the MTC seem almost on the dot(around 17.3%). Hoping the MTC share goes down further as overall drop yesterday was much better than what MTC indicated. Let us hope for thursday above 4m. 

The yesterday overall drop was close to what MTC2 had. Basically MTC 1 was outlier on TUE, coming back to normal on WED. $3.8M mostly.

[Legion Again]

On 9/8/2021 at 3:12 PM, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

Early (early!) read

9-11 -> 60-80

Yeaaaaaaaahhhhh, so…   
 

5-7 -> 35-50? Maybe it’s depressed by all the recent release date changes, but otherwise we are off to an underwhelming start.

[ThomasNicole]

I do think the constant release changes probably hurt Venom a bit (and earlier presales).

 

I'm expecting 50-60M which seems great to me considering the pandemic and that awful First movie. It wasn't hated but definitely not loved either.

[ThomasNicole]

Not surprised by Malignant numbers since once again they dump this.

 

Expecting the same for Cry Macho, seems like they don't care at all. Recently the expensive movies get bad marketing campaigns and the cheaper movies doesn't get marketing at all.

[keysersoze123]

On 9/2/2021 at 9:00 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi OD Previews End

MTC1 - 144803/1063232 2171585.28 5939 shows

MTC2 - 89756/919804 1081838.07 6488 shows

 

 

Shang Chi 2nd Friday PS End

MTC1 - 38525/923837 589205.08 5143 shows

MTC2 -  21633/735370 260543.92 5129 shows

 

One solid increase in showcount compared to today. I do not have exact number at similar point as yesterday but extrapolating from morning data and previous moves from night to morning, I would say PS is up 130-140% range at MTC1 and lower(120ish) at MTC2. Generally PS would be better than actual friday increase(I remember being excited by 200% friday PS increase for Joker couple of years ago). But let us hope Shang Chi does well with strong WOM. 

 

That said mid 30's 2nd weekend should be the target with a strong saturday. I am expecting a big increase just based on how things went last saturday. Let us  hope I am underestimating its potential :-)

 

FYI final update from me for OD 

 

On 9/3/2021 at 8:50 PM, keysersoze123 said:

SC Friday

MTC1 - 337710/1076502 4788913.01 6136 shows

MTC2 - 249327/952803 2865832.95 6694 shows

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

Pre-sales up 101% from WED in α and 80% in γ. Usually PSm on 2nd FRI improves 10% from WED. Can see $9.5M 2nd FRI.

[Legion Again]

For regionals who do have a V1 comp (just Porthos afaik) I think it would be interesting to see on the applicable days (which are just the final 2 or 3 anyway) as a likely ceiling and something to contrast pandemic comps with.

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

 

. Sorry to all you Wan fans out there

Nothing to be sorry about. It's exactly what Wan wanted.

[Porthos]

16 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

For regionals who do have a V1 comp (just Porthos afaik) I think it would be interesting to see on the applicable days (which are just the final 2 or 3 anyway) as a likely ceiling and something to contrast pandemic comps with.

 

As I check back in the thread, looks like the OG Tracker @WrathOfHan did tracking for Venom.  @DAJK might have as well, but I'm not sure his was that vigorous.  Those are the two others I saw at a quick glance back when Venom opened.

[charlie Jatinder]

Looking back, first 7 days of pulse, Venom was 52% of Captain Marvel, though CM was 60 days away from release. 

 

First 3 days, 15% of CM  and JW 2.

Edited September 10, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Porthos]

On 9/8/2021 at 10:51 PM, Porthos said:

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-22 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	127	21962	22310	348	1.56%

 

Total Seats Sold

348

 

Day 1 Comp

	%		Sold Day 1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	31.96		1089	1089		0/99	16124/17213	6.33%		4.42m
TSS	195.51		178	178		0/69	11531/11709	1.52%		8.21m
SC	62.82		554	554		0/92	15096/15650	3.54%		5.53m

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

Regal: 88/7330 [1.20% sold]

 

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Right off the bat I should mention that five theaters in town haven't checked in yet, so that might be messing with things slightly.  On the positive, that did allow me to have an unadjusted Black Widow comp, as none of the Cinema West locations have checked in yet.

 

Aside from that.  Eh. 

 

Probably won't really have a handle on things for a couple of days until I see how long the fan rush is and if it will fall off a cliff like The Suicide Squad  did. Mind, there is one good thing about a TSS comp: Venom 2 will have the exact same number of pre-sale days.

 

FWIW, and I don't think it's all that great of a comp, V2 did do 88.5% of F9's first day, which after Ontario adjustments would point to 6.58m.  But I don't expect it to have a late rush like F9 which is why I ain't comping it right now. Will keep a half an eye on it, though.

 

 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-21 Days and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	146	23960	24377	417	1.71%

 

Total Net Showings Added	19
Total Net Seats Added	2067
Total Seats Sold	69

 

Day 2 Comp

	%		Sold Day 2	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
F9	88.54		78	471		0/92	13512/13983	3.37%		6.58m
TSS	196.70		34	212		0/81	13740/13952	1.52%		8.26m
SC	57.44		172	726		0/99	15764/16490	4.40%		5.05m

COMP NOTE: The F9 Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955). Neither the TSS nor the SC Comp have been adjusted.

 

Day 2 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold Day 2	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	31.75		224	1313		0/104	16873/18186	7.22%		4.39m
V2 (adj)	---		69	417		0/132	21800/22217	1.88%		---

COMP NOTE: The BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: V2 (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

 

Regal: 117/6823 [1.71% sold] [+29 tickets]

 

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Nice?

 

Well, maybe, maybe not.  Decided to add an F9 comp after all.  Interestingly enough it barely budged.  TSS actually increased a smidge, which probably says more about TSS than V2.  Still:  Noted.

 

BW comp was practically unchanged as well (did dip ever so slightly) while the SC comp did in fact go down a small amount.   So... Huh.  Especially on the F9 comp.

 

All but one theater has now checked in, with the last one having its showtimes up but not yet for sale.  So they'll probably go up tomorrow.

 

Not much else to say. 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Friday presales

 

Card Counter

AMC (20): 410 (4), 720 (16)

 

Malignant

AMC (30) 440 (2), 755 (28)

Cinemark: (14) 330 (0), 350 (2), 650 (8), 720 (1), 950 (0), 1010 (3)

 

🤷‍♂️

[Borobudur]

12 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Friday presales

 

Card Counter

AMC (20): 410 (4), 720 (16)

 

Malignant

AMC (30) 440 (2), 755 (28)

Cinemark: (14) 330 (0), 350 (2), 650 (8), 720 (1), 950 (0), 1010 (3)

 

🤷‍♂️

What is the point of tracking these numbers....Just a waste of resources....  

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

2 minutes ago, Borobudur said:

What is the point of tracking these numbers....Just a waste of resources....  

Well, excuse me

[charlie Jatinder]

25 minutes ago, Borobudur said:

What is the point of tracking these numbers....Just a waste of resources....  

Why don't you use the resources and track numbers which have point.

[Legion Again]

It actually is useful as comps for other low end openers anyway.

[Borobudur]

14 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Why don't you use the resources and track numbers which have point.

I mean the numbers are so low, even by pandemic standard not worth paying attention

 

6 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

It actually is useful as comps for other low end openers anyway.

As laughing stock I guess. 

[Cap]

@Borobudur

 

Dear Sir,

 

The tracking thread is an immense resource of this board. And the people in this thread who post numbers do it voluntarily and on their own time. Please do not insult them by implying what they do is a waste of time. Tracking lower number movies is incredibly useful in the long run. Since not everything is going to behave like a big Marvel Event Movie. You have also been banned from the thread for two weeks.