The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Torontofan]

1 hour ago, Multiverse of XXR said:

 

Surprisingly, No Way Home also looks like 50K CAD for previews. 

is joke? my local theater sold about 25k in tickets

[XXR vs XXR]

5 minutes ago, Torontofan said:

is joke? my local theater sold about 25k in tickets

 
Lol yea. Canada usually does about 10% of what the US does, so it’s somewhere around $5.5-6.5M in presales right now. 

Edited December 10, 2021 by Multiverse of XXR

[Menor the Destroyer]

13 minutes ago, Torontofan said:

is joke? my local theater sold about 25k in tickets

Your theater sold 25k tickets??? You mean $25k?

Edited December 10, 2021 by Menor

[XXR vs XXR]

5 minutes ago, Menor said:

Your theater sold 25k tickets??? You mean $25k?

Has to be dollar amount. Even Empire 25 hasn’t sold 25k tickets for NWH (all days).

[Eric Duncan]

On 12/9/2021 at 12:26 AM, Eric Feels Pretty said:

Spider-Man: No Way Home Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	6	205	17,844	37,701	47.33%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 401

 

Comp

2.350x of Black Widow's Final Count (31.02M)

3.407x of Venom 2's Final Count (39.52M)

 

Adjusted Comp

1.266x of Star Wars: TROS T-8 (50.66M)

Spider-Man: No Way Home Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-7 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	6	205	18,361	37,701	48.70%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 517

 

Comp

2.418x of Black Widow's Final Count (31.92M)

3.505x of Venom 2's Final Count (40.66M)

 

Adjusted Comp

1.269x of Star Wars: TROS T-7 (50.76M)

[Eric Duncan]

On 12/9/2021 at 12:36 AM, Eric Feels Pretty said:

The Matrix: Resurrections Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	55	809	9574	8.45%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 80

 

Comp

0.907x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-14 (8.8M)

3.076x of The Suicide Squad T-14 (12.61M)

1.268x of Dune T-14 (6.47M)

The Matrix: Resurrections Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	55	905	9574	9.45%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 96

 

Comp

0.938x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-13 (9.1M)

3.291x of The Suicide Squad T-13 (13.49M)

1.343x of Dune T-13 (6.85M)

[Eric Duncan]

On 12/9/2021 at 12:40 AM, Eric Feels Pretty said:

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	59	1586	10681	14.85%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 27

 

Total Seats WITHOUT Early Access: 178

 

Comp (WITHOUT Early Access)

4.684x of Jungle Cruise T-14 (12.65M)

Sing 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	61	1626	10811	15.04%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 40

 

Total Seats WITHOUT EARLY ACCESS: 218

 

Comp (WITHOUT Early Access)

4.739x of Jungle Cruise T-13 (12.8M)

[charlie Jatinder]

What is the most ticket sold theater so far?

In India I have a theater selling 7k tixs for opening day so far on 20 shows. May get may be 6 more shows eventually for OD of 9-9.5k tixs.

[Legion Again]

4 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

That was my guess based on the location in your profile.  The other is in Orange, CA.  Just for fun (is fun the right word) I took a look at sales.

 

63 shows

6977/13181 sold

$118,922.13!

 

34 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

What is the most ticket sold theater so far?

In India I have a theater selling 7k tixs for opening day so far on 20 shows. May get may be 6 more shows eventually for OD of 9-9.5k tixs.

About 7k US as well looks like. Should go over 10k final.

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

No Way Home Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-8 Days and Counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	0	325	20891	39120	18229	46.60%

 

Total Showings Added Today	14
Total Seats Added Today	1063
Total Seats Sold Today	390

 

As of T-8, No Way Home has sold...

1.9823x as many tickets as Black Widow  did at stop of tracking.             [27.40m]*

3.1177x as many tickets as Shang-Chi did at stop of tracking.                 [27.44m]

2.3637x as many tickets as Let There Be Carnage did at stop of tracking. [27.42m]

2.8443x as many tickets as Eternals did at stop of tracking.                     [27.02m]

* [adj for Ontario]

 

T-8 Adjusted Comp 

[Made under OFFICIAL PROTEST]  [***100% use at own risk*** — see cautionary note below]

	%		Sold T-8	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
EG	84.79		200	19229		17/243	5347/24576	78.24%		50.87m
TROS	114.56		228	15099		5/212	9522/24621	61.33%		45.82m
NWH (EG adj)	---		349	16304		0/325	17667/33971	47.99%		---
NWH (SW adj)	---		374	17297		0/325	18430/35727	48.41%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NWH (EG adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year, a theater which converted to reserved seating this year as well as making an on-the-fly adjustment for a theater which I had partial data for EG and has now shut down and been replaced by another theater a mile a way [for this I am doing only a PLF-PLF comparison for the theater in question]

ADJUSTMENT NOTE #2: NWH (SW adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year as well as a theater that which converted to reserved seating this year.  The theater which has been replaced is 100% included in this comp. 

CAUTIONARY 2021 COMPS NOTE:  ***ALL*** Sacramento 2021 comps when compared to similar pre-COVID movies have been running higher than what has actually been reported.  ABSOLUTELY KEEP THIS IN MIND THAT THIS COMP COULD VERY WELL BE OFF BY AS MUCH AS 15 to 20 PERCENT, or even more.   See here for explanation.

 

Regal:       5034/12528 [40.18% sold] [+148 tickets]

Matinee:    1780/5174  [34.40% sold | 9.76% of all tickets sold]

 

No Way Home Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-7 Days and Counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	0	325	20446	39120	18674	47.74%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

445

 

As of T-7, No Way Home has sold...

2.0307x as many tickets as Black Widow  did at stop of tracking.             [28.07m]*

3.1938x as many tickets as Shang-Chi did at stop of tracking.                 [28.11m]

2.4214x as many tickets as Let There Be Carnage did at stop of tracking. [28.09m]

2.9137x as many tickets as Eternals did at stop of tracking.                     [27.68m]

* [adj for Ontario]

 

T-7 Adjusted Comp 

[Made under OFFICIAL PROTEST]  [***100% use at own risk*** — see cautionary note below]

	%		Sold T-7	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
EG	84.79		240	19469		18/243	5107/24576	79.22%		50.87m
TROS	115.33		256	15355		5/213	9341/24696	62.18%		46.13m
NWH (EG adj)	---		393	16697		0/325	17274/33971	49.15%		---
NWH (SW adj)	---		412	17709		0/325	18018/35727	49.57%		---

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: NWH (EG adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year, a theater which converted to reserved seating this year as well as making an on-the-fly adjustment for a theater which I had partial data for EG and has now shut down and been replaced by another theater a mile a way [for this I am doing only a PLF-PLF comparison for the theater in question]

ADJUSTMENT NOTE #2: NWH (SW adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include DBOX tracking which started earlier this year as well as a theater that which converted to reserved seating this year.  The theater which has been replaced is 100% included in this comp. 

CAUTIONARY 2021 COMPS NOTE:  ***ALL*** Sacramento 2021 comps when compared to similar pre-COVID movies have been running higher than what has actually been reported.  ABSOLUTELY KEEP THIS IN MIND THAT THIS COMP COULD VERY WELL BE OFF BY AS MUCH AS 15 to 20 PERCENT, or even more.   See here for explanation.

 

Regal:       5034/12528 [40.93% sold] [+94 tickets]

Matinee:    1849/5174  [35.74% sold | 9.90% of all tickets sold]

[Porthos]

There is one thing noteworthy about NWH compared to every last mega preview movie I've ever tracked.

 

The absolute lack of sellouts locally.

Very slightly vexing as well, as sellouts make a count go by faster as I no longer have to check that showing

 

What I can't figure out is if it is the sheer amount of showtimes (about 25% more than EG at this point in time, even if I don't count a theater that opened up literally a couple of days before EG premiered), lingering concerns about the 'rona, or being people being ultra-hyped but not so hyped as they have to see it opening night.  Or some combination of all three.

 

(and it's not really Xmas at play here, IMO, as even though that's a factor, SW films regularly sell out at this time of the calendar)

 

What I am seeing is showtimes at the better theaters in town fill up as showtimes get added (72 tickets of those sold today went to three showtimes at the local SMG which were added a couple of days ago [SMG Rocklin is one of the highest trafficked theaters in the region]).  But outside of the PLF screens at the best theaters in a region, I am seeing something of a wall being hit as it approaches capacity.

 

Waaaaay back in the day, before I fully transitioned to a seat count, I tracked by some arbitrary measurements of sellouts and percentage of capacity.  Mostly for my own curiosity, and on the off chance I might still want it, I still track that info on my home sheets.

 

Out of the 313 reserved seating showings:

 

1 is 95% sold or more

3 more are between 90% and 95% sold

46 more are at the equivalent of front two rows of seats or less, but less than 90% sold

and finally 9 more are between "front two rows" and 75% sold.

 

To put it another way:

90%+ sold: 4

80%-89%: 14

70%-79%: 44

60%-69%: 54

50%-59%: 55

40%-49%: 27

30%-39%: 21

20%-29%: 19

10%-19%: 26

0%-9% :    49

 

This is really unusual for this type of film as I should be getting some sellouts by now.  The only thing that is selling out are the DBOX "showings" (which I now track at the seat level but don't count as a separate showtime/sellout).  There we actually have 9 sellouts out of 18 DBOX showings for an overall 338/363 (93.11% sold).

 

But there does seem to be a... resistance to getting those least desirable seats, except at the creme de la creme of locations, and even there the sellouts aren't happening.  The upper bowl of various auditoriums will sell rather easily.  But the closer to the screen, and more toward the aisle?  Real resistance there.

 

Curious to see if the wall will be breeched at any point and if the spice will flow sellouts will start to come.

 

Sure hope so, if only coz it speeds up the track.

 

If this is 'rona hesitation, might mean a stronger IM after all.  If this is more of finally meeting demand for a highly anticipated Marvel flick, maybe not as much.  Gonna be curious to see how it all shakes out in the end.  Especially with all of those showtimes available in the 60% capacity and under region.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Spiderman starting at 3pm probably eliminates many sellouts. On Thursday, there's 10 showtimes outside of XD at the Cinemark and 3-4 different theaters

 

Really hope it doesn't steal Christmas auditoriums

[XXR vs XXR]

5 hours ago, Porthos said:

If this is 'rona hesitation, might mean a stronger IM after all.  If this is more of finally meeting demand for a highly anticipated Marvel flick, maybe not as much. 

I definitely think it’s a bit of both. Anecdotally, I know people on both groups.

 

1) People are looking for less packed showtimes or waiting a few days in general. This is the Rona’ weary crowd. They’d normally see it Thursday/Friday but aren’t so MCU hyped that they have to see it immediately.

 

2) I know people who want to see it but don’t feel the urge to buy tickets early that they might have with Endgame. 
 

As for multiplier and legs, I think if the early reviews are good and the WOM just says it’s worth seeing (doesn’t even need to be hyperbolic), I think IM should be over 5 and legs over 2.8x

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 12/3/2021 at 12:17 PM, katnisscinnaplex said:

US showtime sample 12/3 weekend

 

Movie	Theaters	Shows	Change	Standard	PLF	IMAX	3D	Dolby	D-Box	XD	RPX
Encanto	3,243	67,908	-15.30%	62,146	5,762	0	1,937	1,344	661	1,211	609
Ghostbusters	3,255	59,027	-18.15%	55,941	3,086	151	0	825	689	1,038	383
House of Gucci	2,963	34,662	-10.89%	34,026	636	0	0	393	0	32	211
Resident Evil	2,461	29,007	-16.08%	28,832	175	0	0	88	75	0	12
Clifford	2,701	25,411	-15.15%	25,335	76	0	0	76	0	0	0
Xmas w/ Chosen	1,556	18,800		18,775	25	0	0	25	0	0	0
Eternals	2,707	18,018	-36.50%	17,904	114	5	27	74	0	0	8
King Richard	2,307	16,345	-39.08%	16,312	33	0	0	33	0	0	0
Belfast	1,057	8,610	-15.56%	8,610	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Venom 2	1,069	7,689	-14.68%	7,687	2	0	0	2	0	0	0
Dune	920	7,310	56.50%	4,742	2,568	2,568	0	0	0	0	0
C'mon C'mon	532	6,058	412.52%	6,058	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
No Time to Die	906	5,530	1.13%	5,518	12	0	3	9	0	0	0
Sword Art Online	813	3,693		3,009	684	684	0	0	0	0	0
Wolf	294	3,656		3,656	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The French Dispatch	317	2,304	-10.66%	2,304	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Akhanda	279	1,953		1,953	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Spencer	255	1,654		1,654		0	0	0	0	0	0
Love of Money	219	1,307	-76.60%	1,293	14	0	0	14	0	0	0
Ron's Gone Wrong	164	912	-41.69%	903	9	0	0	9	0	0	0
The Met Opera	743	749		749	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

 

Nothing too surprising this week.  Dune IMAX re-release could be interesting; same for the C'mon C'mon expansion.  

 

Future releases

 

T-1 week

National Champions - 10,875 (911 TC)

West Side Story - 27,605 (1,950 TC) (6,201 PLF)
Don't Look Up - 2,828 (263 TC)

Matrix Re-release - 2,992 (550 TC) (135 PLF)

T-2 weeks previews

Spider-Man - 26,573 (2,835 TC) (4,775 PLF)

Nightmare Alley - 980 (567 TC)

 

Early Access

12/15 American Underdog - 297 (297 TC)

12/17-12/18 American Underdog - 1,880 (925 TC)

 

T-3 weeks previews

King's Man - 4,252 (1,733 TC)

US showtime sample 12/10 weekend

 

Movie	Theaters	Shows	Change	Standard	PLF	IMAX	3D
West Side Story	2,479	54,697		46,557	8,140	3,038	0
Encanto	3,015	48,453	-28.65%	46,495	1,958	0	396
Ghostbusters	3,006	43,290	-26.66%	41,814	1,476	0	0
House of Gucci	2,815	28,220	-18.59%	28,113	107	0	0
Eternals	2,482	23,800	32.09%	23,685	115	0	15
Resident Evil	2,198	20,860	-28.09%	20,761	99	0	0
Clifford	2,093	16,405	-35.44%	16,346	59	0	0
National Champions	1,174	15,457		15,434	23	0	0
Don't Look Up	655	8,118		8,107	11	0	0
King Richard	1,066	6,733	-58.81%	6,719	14	0	0
Venom 2	831	6,444	-16.19%	6,444	0	0	0
Being the Ricardos	462	5,093		5,093	0	0	0
Matrix	849	4,564		3,971	593	411	0
Belfast	596	4,216	-51.03%	4,216	0	0	0
Green Knight	702	4,204		4,204	0	0	0
Dune	654	4,159	-43.11%	3,908	251	230	0
No Time to Die	606	3,696	-33.16%	3,690	6	0	6
Sword Art Online	392	3,596	-2.63%	3,596	0	0	0
True to the Game 3	320	2,866		2,852	14	0	0
C'mon C'mon	462	2,514	-58.50%	2,514	0	0	0
French Dispatch	192	1,488	-35.42%	1,488	0	0	0

*I removed the other PLF columns, but they are still included in the PLF totals

 

Biggest thing that stands out to me is the 32% increase in Eternals shows.  I had to double count just to make sure that was right.  I guess there's a push to get everyone to catch up on MCU before Spider-Man.  West Side Story is pretty comparable to recent musicals In the Heights (55,061) and Dear Evan Hansen (50,762), while National Champions is in the Show Me the Father (15,629), Joe Bell (13,994) and Zola (16,722) range.

 

Future releases

 

Early Access

12/12 A Journal for Jordan - 398 (398 TC)

12/15 Nightmare Alley - 829 (819 TC)

12/15-12/18 American Underdog - 2,203 (1,003 TC)

 

T-1 Week (full weekend)

Spider-Man - 135,877 (3,146 TC) (31,815 previews in 3,060)

Nightmare Alley - 14,207 (1,231 TC) (1,703 previews in 996)

 

T-2 Week (previews)

King's Man - 4,528 (1,835 TC)

 

T-2 Week (OD)

Matrix - 8,183 (2,078 TC)

Sing 2 - 9,498 (2,220 TC)

 

T-2 Week (12/24 shows - OD or previews?)

Licorice Pizza - 917 (451 TC)

American Underdog - 340 (165 TC)

Journal for Jordan - 882 (353 TC)

[Tinalera]

So I saw the Canada comments so I thought I'd go back and do an update of Greater Toronto Area-alright thats cool........

 

Another massive add of seats since my last count.......

 

 

So if anyone needs me Ill be back in the corner crying for the next while adding all these seats in a new count......sob.....

[Krissykins]

$800k Thursday for West Side Story

[Legion Again]

4 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

$800k Thursday for West Side Story

Well… it matched Hansen at least

[Krissykins]

3 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said:

Well… it matched Hansen at least

It’s actually worse, started 2 hours earlier. 

[charlie Jatinder]

This include the early access they had few days back, right?

Not really surprised. The trailers looked dud to me.

[Eric Duncan]

1 minute ago, charlie Jatinder said:

This include the early access they had few days back, right?

Not really surprised. The trailers looked dud to me.

There weren't any Early Access shows. The closest thing was a free IMAX event a la Shang-Chi