Thursday Numbers (June 22): TF5 8.1M, Cars 3 4.4M, WW 4M (Deadline)

[titanic2187]

34 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

That could be true or not, when those franchise started in the early 2000's, I'm not even sure they got China release, it was certain that those movie would get sequels only if they did well domestic.

 

What happen with Warcraft and resident evil could be an indication if Intl only franchise from US studio has some reality on it, or if it is not the time yet (they need to build some China Netflix or other ancillary better base for it to become reality).

It probably need 5 years more.......

[Plain Old Tele]

1 minute ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

Edge of Tomorrow and Star Trek Beyond were both flops. I think the only reason they didn't garner articles like Tarzan and The Mummy did is because the reviews were decent to good.

 

People love to use "flops" to describe any movie that loses money, but that's not really the definition. A flop is something that loses a sensational amount of money. It ruins careers. Sometimes -- rarely -- it even would bankrupt a studio. A franchise movie that loses some money -- but will likely be a helpful piece in a studio's library -- isn't a flop.

[Arlborn]

1 hour ago, grim22 said:

I think Paramount, in their quest to get a domestic win, might greenlight Star Trek 4 from all of this. @MrPink

From your mouthfingers to their earseyes please.

[Zakiyyah6]

Just now, narniadis said:

 

Neither was a flop they underperformed but sheesh quit using a word that doesn't belong.

So Tarzan wasn't a flop either? It's budget was only 20mil higher than Star Trek Beyond and comparable to Edge and yet people act like it's impossible that it made money post it's theatrical Revenue.

[Plain Old Tele]

3 minutes ago, narniadis said:

 

LOL old timer get a pass.... oh wait what am I doing

 

I just find it funny that this was the film that behaves like normal but folks expected to buck a trend. Good thing I didn't include it in my summer game unlike some other films (Baywatch and CU, I am looking at you!)

 

I had it in my summer game. 

 

 

 

I thought it would perform like a mini-COMPTON. (This was well before the limited marketing and lousy reviews and reception, though.)

[titanic2187]

37 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

Looks like everyone's recovering from a suppressed Wednesday.

friday should looks good as no new major newcomers, and people started to turn their attention back to holdovers as TF5 fell short of expectation 

[Plain Old Tele]

Just now, Zakiyyah6 said:

So Tarzan wasn't a flop either? It's budget was only 20mil higher than Star Trek Beyond and comparable to Edge and yet people act like it's impossible that it made money post it's theatrical Revenue.

 

Of course TARZAN wasn't a flop.

[a2k]

EOT is the least deserving flop of recent years imo. Polar opposite of TF2.

A+ flop original with respected actors vs D- blockbuster sequel with young "actors".

[junkshop36]

33 minutes ago, a2knet said:

If he is gonna dust of an oldie I would love for him to do an Alien franchise movie.

 

I'd like that as well, but I get the feeling Terminator is closer to his heart since he started it and did the first two. Which are the ones everyone loves anyway lol

[John Marston]

Wonder Woman only hold out

 

 

 

1)	Transformers: The Last Knight	Paramount Pictures	$8,136,954	-48%	4,069	$2,000	$23,795,489	2
-	(2)	Cars 3	Walt Disney	$4,430,742	+2%	4,256	$1,041	$74,707,893	7
-	(4)	47 Meters Down	Entertainment Studi…	$1,237,361	+1%	2,270	$545	$16,825,932	7
-	(5)	All Eyez on Me	Lionsgate	$1,083,911	-10%	2,471	$439	$32,792,319	7
-	(6)	The Mummy	Universal	$1,070,455	+1%	3,807	$281	$62,683,670	14
-	(8)	Pirates of the Caribbean: D…	Walt Disney	$939,055	+8%	2,521	$372	$154,765,326	28
-	(7)	Rough Night	Sony Pictures	$875,672	n/c	3,162	$277	$11,934,947	7
-	(9)	Captain Underpants: The Fir…	20th Century Fox	$837,509	+11%	2,372	$353	$61,463,176	21
-	(10)	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2	Walt Disney	$508,782	+9%	1,540	$330	$377,213,327	49
-	(11)	It Comes at Night	A24	$181,861	+1%	2,450	$74	$12,243,168	14
-	(12)	The Book of Henry	Focus Features	$167,435	+4%	579	$289	$2,157,355	7
-	(13)	Baywatch	Paramount Pictures	$129,875	+2%	609	$213	$55,907,889	29
-	(-)	Beatriz at Dinner	Roadside Attractions	$75,068	+6%	77	$975	$1,193,780	14
-	(15)	The Boss Baby	20th Century Fox	$68,397	+13%	260	$263	$172,749,372	84
-	(-)	My Cousin Rachel	Fox Searchlight	$56,076	+4%	368	$152	$2,230,675	14
-	(-)	Alien: Covenant	20th Century Fox	$47,343	-4%	400	$118	$72,993,461	35
-	(-)	Beauty and the Beast	Walt Disney	$47,185	+16%	233	$203	$503,536,429	98
-	(-)	Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L…	20th Century Fox	$32,694	+14%	171	$191	$20,218,914	35
-	(-)	The Fate of the Furious	Universal	$29,650	+13%	175	$169	$225,052,880	70
-	(-)	The Hero	The Orchard	$16,481	+16%	27	$610	$257,964	14
-	(-)	Snatched	20th Century Fox	$15,614	-1%	211	$74	$45,476,933	42
-	(-)	How to Be a Latin Lover	Lionsgate	$15,387	+2%	119	$129	$32,149,404	56
-	(-)	Gifted	Fox Searchlight	$12,176	+9%	100	$122	$24,468,706	77
-	(-)	Dean	CBS Films	$7,605	+4%	83	$92	$237,036	21
-	(-)	The Wedding Plan	Roadside Attractions	$7,122	+23%	54	$132	$1,320,596	42
-	(-)	The Exception	A24	$4,130	-18%	14	$295	$112,334	21
-	(-)	Lowriders	BH Tilt	$3,860	-11%	40	$97	$6,179,955	42
-	(-)	Warriors of the Dawn	FIP	$3,441	+25%	32	$108	$61,730	7
-	(-)	Born in China	Walt Disney	$3,372	-29%	22	$153	$13,799,257	63
-	(-)	The Lovers	A24	$2,275	-24%	35	$65	$2,158,696	49
-	(-)	Their Finest	STX Entertainment	$1,945	+23%	29	$67	$3,603,484	77
-	(-)	3 Idiotas	Lionsgate	$1,686	-30%	46	$37	$1,219,031	21
-	(-)	Logan	20th Century Fox	$1,652	+4%	22	$75	$226,258,569	112
-	(-)	Jeremiah Tower: The Last Ma…	The Orchard	$331	-87%	14	$24	$225,963	63
-	(-)	Radio Dreams	Matson	$138	+53%	4	$35	$16,176	21

[Biggestgeekever]

13 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Edge of Tomorrow will have a gross that is less than The Mummy on a bigger budget, yet I don't remember many articles about that one being a flop

There was plenty of discussion about Edge of Tomorrow's weak box office. Perhaps not as much as The Mummy, probably because a) EoT actually got good reviews and The Mummy is supposed to be the backbone of a huge franchise.

 

The latter is why EoT is getting a sequel, while if The Mummy ever gets a direct followup it will be through sheer inertia.

[Plain Old Tele]

Just now, Biggestgeekever said:

There was plenty of discussion about Edge of Tomorrow's weak box office. Perhaps not as much as The Mummy, probably because a) EoT actually got good reviews and The Mummy is supposed to be the backbone of a huge franchise.

 

The latter is why EoT is getting a sequel, while if The Mummy ever gets a direct followup it will be through sheer inertia.

 

I don't think this is true. If it cracks 400m WW there'll be a sequel (and justifiably so).

[grey ghost]

40 minutes ago, DAR said:

I totally get why the domestic audience is looking at TF5 and Pirates and saying you know what we're good.  I just kind of wish something else stepped in for them.  Non-CBM

 

Ceasar and Nolan are coming. 

[Barnack]

5 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

So Tarzan wasn't a flop either? It's budget was only 20mil higher than Star Trek Beyond and comparable to Edge and yet people act like it's impossible that it made money post it's theatrical Revenue.

 

Tarzan is so far from a flop that he is in too close to call to even know if the studio didn't made a profit out of it, same for Edge.

 

Flop is loosing a clear and large amount of money, it is Mars need mom, Ben-Hur, Live by Night, King Arthur, Monster Truck, etc... type of performance, that hurt a year slate.

 

Edge of Tomorrow (getting a sequel) is clearly out of that conversation, same for Tarzan.

[Zakiyyah6]

We already got WW estimates, it's hardly a holdout.

[a2k]

6 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

-	(8)	Pirates of the Caribbean: D…	Walt Disney	$939,055	+8%	2,521	$372	$154,765,326	28

 

POTC should manage 4.7-5.2 over the weekend for 159.5-160.

With dollar bump 170 is likely. That's 2.7x the 3-day ow (with inflated Sunday, so fair legs for a five-quel following probably the worst POTC in OST).

Edited June 23, 2017 by a2knet

[grey ghost]

We all mostly knew POTC5 and TF5 were going to drop some domestically.

 

But for everyone on the planet to collectively give up on both franchises at the same time is just weird. 

 

 

[Rman823]

2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

Ceasar and Nolan are coming. 

TBH I'm actually more hyped for 

[Rman823]

Just now, grey ghost said:

We all mostly knew POTC5 and TF5 were going to drop some domestically.

 

But for everyone on the planet to collectively give up on both franchises at the same time is just weird. 

 

 

Well both have kind of worn out their welcome. 

[YM!]

Fuck it. @That One Guy I think there's a real chance Valerian can do $100M-$120M domestic now with great reviews and marketing. Still thinking $70M-$80M for now but still.