ANT-MAN AND THE WASP | 406.0 M overseas ● 622.7 M worldwide

[Valonqar]

13 minutes ago, pepsa said:

It's doing pretty good in spain, europe will be fine. But yeah LA is a problem. 

Interesting thing that's probably nothing but still:

 

AM&TW has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

RO/TLJ has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

Conclusion: Latino character(s) have no impact on LA boxoffice. Audience clearly looks for something else and/or better context for those characters. 

[kswiston]

1 hour ago, Valonqar said:

Interesting thing that's probably nothing but still:

 

AM&TW has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

RO/TLJ has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

Conclusion: Latino character(s) have no impact on LA boxoffice. Audience clearly looks for something else and/or better context for those characters. 

 

Both of those characters were in the previous films. Any effect that they may or may not have had on box office appeal would already be factored into the 2015 films. 

[Valonqar]

3 minutes ago, kswiston said:

 

Both of those characters were in the previous films. Any effect that they may or may not have had on box office appeal would already be factored into the 2015 films. 

true. I guess they didn't factor. Just so Hollywood know that tokenism does not drive foreign boxoffice. 

[Rebeccas]

Diversity in Hollywood movies is more for (insert ethnic group) - Americans. Latinos in Latin America and Asians in Asia have their own movies to represent them, so of course they're not going to care.

[oMeriMombatti]

Ant Man And The Wasp has scored at the box office with a pretty good first day of 5.25-5.50 crore nett which is similar to the collections of Black Panther which had more hype though the release in India of Ant Man And The Wasp was a little wider than Black Panther.

 

 

The Hollywood released had the highest collections on the Friday beating Soorma and Sanju. There is big growth for this Marvel branded cinema in India as the last Ant Man released in 2015 grossed 8 crore nett and this one will beat that one in 2 days flat.

 

 

It still remains to be seen if the film actually works with the audience but with a start like this it is pretty much assured success from a purely commercial point of view.

 

https://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4107

 

Massive success for MCU in India once again. It did double of what I thought it would do on Friday. Absolutely Humungous.

[Spidey Freak]

On 7/13/2018 at 11:00 PM, Rebeccas said:

Diversity in Hollywood movies is more for (insert ethnic group) - Americans. Latinos in Latin America and Asians in Asia have their own movies to represent them, so of course they're not going to care.

As seen with Black Panther, Coco, The Jungle Book, Big Hero 6 etc. people from a particular region or country do care about Hollywood representation but usually only when it is the lead or if the movie is set in the same region/nation. Just a supporting character or token doesn't do much though.

[Carlangonz]

On 7/13/2018 at 10:58 AM, Valonqar said:

Latino character(s) have no impact on LA boxoffice.

True. Latin audiences doesn't feel that as representation, tell their stories is truly representative, just look at Coco. 

 

And surprisingly, latinos support more local talent such as writers or directors than actors. See It's hit in Argentina or The Shape of Water's numbers in Mexico.

[Lucasmessi12]

On 7/13/2018 at 12:58 PM, Valonqar said:

Interesting thing that's probably nothing but still:

 

AM&TW has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

RO/TLJ has a prominent Latino character = movie does meh in LA

 

Conclusion: Latino character(s) have no impact on LA boxoffice. Audience clearly looks for something else and/or better context for those characters. 

 

Only a secondary character in the film, so nobody cares, if the main characters were Latin Americans for sure it would have an big impact, but they are just another anglo american characters/actors.

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, Carlangonz said:

And surprisingly, latinos support more local talent such as writers or directors than actors. See It's hit in Argentina or The Shape of Water's numbers in Mexico.

Derbez do crazy business there also:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Actor&id=eugenioderbez.htm

 

 

 

 

7/2/17
Mexico	Videocine	5/5/17	$7,264,588	29.1%	$24,928,324	6/11/17
Mexico	Videocine	5/10/18	$11,213,179	42.8%	$26,170,477	6/24/18

 

 

A movie like overboard going over 25m there.... close to Force Awaken.

Edited July 14, 2018 by Barnack

[Valonqar]

2 hours ago, Carlangonz said:

True. Latin audiences doesn't feel that as representation, tell their stories is truly representative, just look at Coco. 

 

And surprisingly, latinos support more local talent such as writers or directors than actors. See It's hit in Argentina or The Shape of Water's numbers in Mexico.

Great insight! Thanks you! 

[lor15]

9 hours ago, Carlangonz said:

True. Latin audiences doesn't feel that as representation, tell their stories is truly representative, just look at Coco. 

 

And surprisingly, latinos support more local talent such as writers or directors than actors. See It's hit in Argentina or The Shape of Water's numbers in Mexico.

That's true. Don't breathe was huge here in Uruguay.

[Valonqar]

Kicking ass all over Asia though. Now India was caught up. That's an excellent position to be in for a franchise, cause those markets are the future. SW completely bombed there without any chance of recovery. 

[pepsa]

58 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Kicking ass all over Asia though. Now India was caught up. That's an excellent position to be in for a franchise, cause those markets are the future. SW completely bombed there without any chance of recovery. 

I am pretty sure after IW2 and with a less crowded release dat for AM3 it will do a lot better in LA as well. AM did prove it's not an established name in LA yet. But yeah I2 and JW just before the release and HT3 (big in LA) and MI6 in the next 2 weeks is pretty hard competition. And it still has some competition of the WC. 

 

Europe isn't looking to bad atm. But I agree Asia + LA is lot more important. 

[pepsa]

Btw if 48% market OW is correct than:

$85.9m *2.5 / 48 * 100 = $447.4m

And 2.5 isn't a big multi. But AM is Asian heavy so that might make it more frontloaded. 

[Purple Minion]

 

[Purple Minion]

 

[Valonqar]

Fuck, is it me or that's a pretty big drop? From 85M to 35M? And it includes India where it opened this weekend. 

[fabiopazzo2]

600/650m is a good target for Ant man 2 

[oMeriMombatti]

sorry ... wrong thread

Edited July 15, 2018 by oMeriMombatti

[TalismanRing]

20 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Fuck, is it me or that's a pretty big drop? From 85M to 35M? And it includes India where it opened this weekend. 

Considering it's big markets were in Asia where larger drops are more common, not really.  That $85m also covered Wed/Thur openers.