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[Water Bottle]

3 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

Theater owner were almost right too, number of theater went down drastically also, it barely survived (and it was not sure that it would in the eye of many before jaws/star wars/superman happened). Studio achieved to moneytised those new avenue successfully, Netflix is moneytised but is price point does not seem to make sense.

I'm curious when do you think Americans adopted television? Or when cable was launched?

[Premium George]

Sad is now symphatise. Makes that point more logical. Sad was sometimes to mock user.

[Steele131]

14 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

Skyfall > Casino Royale > Spectre > Quantum of Solace

Casino Royale > Skyfall > Quantum of Solace > Spectre

[Barnack]

3 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

I'm curious when do you think Americans adopted television? Or when cable was launched?

The 50'sm, without looking I would have said the mid 50's., really does not know for cable, the 70s ? TV really did match the theatrical experience getting 10 time less popular in the US.

 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

On the Craig Bond films:

-3rd act of Spectre is pretty rough. It also weirdly mixes the Craig Bond tone with something more Roger Moore-ish, which... doesn't work well.

-Still better than Quantum of Solace.

-Skyfall is pretty damn good, definitely suffers a bit on subsequent watches, but as others have said the cinematography is jaw-droppingly gorgeous and it features some great emotional beats with M (in my top 5 Bond films).

-But it will be tough for any Bond movie going forward to surpass Casino Royale. It's up there with Goldfinger as the quintessential Bond film. A perfect reworking of Bond and in the Holy Trinity of the Reboot Era (Casino Royale, Batman Begins, Star Trek 09, although I guess Mad Max is in there now)

Edited July 24, 2017 by Jayhawk

[Ethan Hunt]

Skyfall

Casino Royale

Spectre 

QoS

[Water Bottle]

Just now, Barnack said:

The 50'sm, without looking I would have said the mid 50's., really does not know for cable, the 70s ? TV really did match the theatrical experience getting 10 time less popular in the US.

 

 

Right and if you look at the chart you provided the percentage of the population that went to the theater went up in the fifties. The huge decline was in the forties during World War 2 and then a small decline in the sixties. When cable became a thing, it's the eighties-way past the decline.

 

As for the theaters that closed that's because the theater business had to completely change. Not to compete with TV but because of antittust lawsuits that ended studio ownership of theaters. Theater chains were thus made independent and a lot of them couldn't adapt to it.

[TwoMisfits]

1 hour ago, Biggestgeekever said:

Nolan?   

 

We're probably going to have to agree to disagree on that. DM3, for my money, doesn't try to have any thematic or visual connections to its moving parts. And that's why it's lazy to me, because they didn't even try to anything of the sort.

 

Amen...there is a particular subplot with the oldest girl child that literally just goes for 3 scenes and falls off the map - it was like "what the heck was the point of that?:...the minions, as mentioned, don't even seem like they are in the same film - the tone, the plot, the visualization for them is just completely different...at least the little girls subplot wrapped up but it was so random and really could have been 100% cut from the film...nothing connected except for the 2 main characters plot...and that one wasn't that great...

 

It was phoned in, lazy, and forced...a tv movie at its finest...and Despicable Me's franchise has always been way better than that, even when they were missing the mark...

[dxmatrixdt]

ZZZZ @ Warner Brothers

[nomyth]

I always credit I Love Lucy a lot with the rise of TV. The 2nd season had a 67 rating. Obviously, the # of households with TV's were way less but that's still crazy to me. I can't imagine anything nowadays could come close to the popularity of that show or shows like Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Andy Griffith Show etc.

[TwoMisfits]

1 hour ago, grim22 said:

 

On a box office forum, of course we will discuss box office. Who said anything about quality? Kids liked DM3, it got legs, they hated Cars 3, it disappeared. 

 

Sometimes, quality and box office collide like with Wonder Woman, sometimes movies considered to be quality flop fully like Covfefe and ICAN.

I disagree...I think Cars 3 died b/c of Cars 2's influence and it already being pegged as just for aged 3-9s...

 

I think next time DM comes out, it will die the same way, no matter how good it is b/c this movie has now pegged itself to solely aged 3-9...and it won't get anyone older back...

[a2k]

Casino Royal was over-complicated for my liking.

I didn't mind thinking through Prometheus or Inception (which some say is Nolan's Bond but I didn't get that) or Matrix ... but CR tried to appear smarter than it is by complicating things unnecessarily. (IMO) 

Edited July 24, 2017 by a2knet

[Dementeleus]

48 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Nolan isn't the only person who feels this way though.

 

Ever visit Film-Tech forum? There are a bunch of theater owners and managers on that website who seem very concerned about Hollywood's push for day and date home video. Could very well kill theaters, but would also hurt the studios if theaters go out of business.

 

I do visit Film-Tech. But being worried about a narrowing theatrical window (or being anxious that the studios want to eliminate it entirely) is different from saying Netflix is bad for movies. 

[redfirebird2008]

4 minutes ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

 

I do visit Film-Tech. But being worried about a narrowing theatrical window (or being anxious that the studios want to eliminate it entirely) is different from saying Netflix is bad for movies. 

It is a threat to them in general though. Why bother paying $10 for a movie ticket to deal with texters and other rude customers when you can spend $10 per month for access to a lot of movies on your couch? Theaters have good reason to be scared, haha. 

[Mojoguy]

The 50'sm, without looking I would have said the mid 50's., really does not know for cable, the 70s ? TV really did match the theatrical experience getting 10 time less popular in the US.

TV ratings are in the toilet right now, movie sales are doing well in comparison especially whenever blockbuster movies coming out.

There will always be people that want to go out and have fun, and moving going is cheaper than things like sporting events.

[MrPink]

Just now, redfirebird2008 said:

It is a threat to them in general though. Why bother paying $10 for a movie ticket to deal with texters and other rude customers when you can spend $10 per month for access to a lot of movies on your couch? Theaters have good reason to be scared, haha. 

 

Some would argue theaters need to find a way to incentivize people then.

 

Funny enough, it seems like the biggest threat to theaters are people. Everywhere I read on the internet, the thought of annoying teens and such seems to be what draws people away more than anything

[Mojoguy]

Get real guys, theaters will never want to get rid of the theatrical window. That will be the death of moving going for real.

Edited July 24, 2017 by Mojoguy

[Water Bottle]

Theaters are adding bars and stuff. Clearly they think alcohol will give people a reason to stick with movie theaters.

[redfirebird2008]

2 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

Some would argue theaters need to find a way to incentivize people then.

 

Funny enough, it seems like the biggest threat to theaters are people. Everywhere I read on the internet, the thought of annoying teens and such seems to be what draws people away more than anything

 

Yeah. No matter how many reclining chairs you add and no matter how much you "improve" the food menu at a movie theater, people still have better options at home and with none of the annoying behavior by other customers. 

 

I still think the big screen with really good surround sound is worth the money and dealing with the texter punks, but I think the couch scenario at home is the #1 option for many people. 

[Rthmessiah]

Not sure if this been posted

 

DK

F 19,736,259
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WE 50,513,488

 

Edited July 24, 2017 by Rth Homecoming