Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs

[YM!]

7 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Theyve never released 9 a year

They released 9 in 2021.

[AJG]

61% 

 

Disney need to give King Kevin a 6 month break to recuperate. He’s being overworked and it’s hurting the product.

[JustLurking]

I'm seeing 63%/70 reviews btw.

[Movie nerd]

MCU in the era after Endgame has quality control problem, Feige is constantly letting projects with undercooked scripts go into the production.

The pressure of delivering yearly quota of content in Disney plus era has gotten to him and quality suffers. 

[THUNDER BIRD]

Just now, Willowra said:

He was. Do you really think he will be in big 3 of next Avengers movies? His era as a lead character of Avengers movies is over.

Ok

[TheFlatLannister]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Definitely feeling confident now my predictions about this not really doing any better than the first two is going to age very well. 225 ceiling DOM imo with this reception. 

2x multiplier? Even MoM could scrap 2.2x. LaT 2.4x 

 

I think $240-250M DOM

[Sophia Jane]

Quantumania's writer is writing Kang Dynasty

[YM!]

Honestly I think the large amount of quantity of projects and the need to up the scales of the Infinity Saga has done more harm than good for Phase 4. If every movie is an Avengers level event; then nothing is, and this nature has hurt a lot of movies. I like both Eternals and Multiverse of Madness but a lot of problems stem from the films are at war with being something of the directors style and what the MCU has to be which does hurt them a bit. Note there's exceptions like the Coogler and Gunn movies but I do think that's coming out more pronounced here. 

[Reddroast]

3 minutes ago, Movie nerd said:

MCU in the era after Endgame has quality control problem, Feige is constantly letting projects with undercooked scripts go into the production.

The pressure of delivering yearly quota of content in Disney plus era has gotten to him and quality suffers. 

The pandemic hasn't helped this ether

[wildphantom]

The bigger the swing narratively, the more mixed the reviews are for MCU movies. If they’re safe and go for the tried and tested then they tend to get good aggregate scores, but that’s not really saying much as to the ambition. 
 

I want them to get more complex, but as they do this more they’re going to alienate at least some critics.  You can sense many of them have just had enough of keeping up with it now.  They should be reviewing it in the context of keeping up with where all the intertwined stories are, but that’s a big ask broadly. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by wildphantom

[Spidey Freak]

The overreactions from the MCU doomsdayers are so funny. The fact that many critics are calling QM the best of the Ant-Man trilogy but it is still getting a lower RT than the first two films literally shows the only difference is that weaker entries in the MCU are not getting any free passes from critics anymore.

[CoolioD1]

[YM!]

4 minutes ago, AJG said:

61% 

 

Disney need to give King Kevin a 6 month break to recuperate. He’s being overworked and it’s hurting the product.

Honestly. No more than 3 movies and two shows a year. And I do think they should have less green writers. I've been harping on the Rick and Morty to MCU pipeline for a minute, It's not so much that although it's a large part of that. It's more I think you need to write a smaller movie like a comedy first before doing a big tentpole as you can learn from your mistakes. McKenna and Sommers did a lot of movies (even though I hate FFH, they knew how to write a script). A lot of people in phases 4-6 either never written a film before or were returning with the former being more so for Phases 5 and 6.

[froztking]

7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

MCU is in legitimate trouble going forward. There is a clear lack of vision at this point and it’s happening right when WB seem to finally be getting a hold on what to do with DCU. That’s a dangerous combination for Disney. 

not lack of vision! they got the story setup ! one of the good thing in this movie is that road and idea is show and established well

the issue is lack of execution and improvement ! now people are more critical of these movies unlike phase 1 or 2 where no critic really took them seriously and said they will fade away ! but now they are all in and marvel should do nothing wrong even gen audience are expecting more quality than just entertainment 

[GOGODanca]

critics are still going easier on weaker mcu entries than for any other franchise, thor 4 should have easily been rotten and instead its fresh and hanging right around where something like aquaman was

[thajdikt]

1 minute ago, YM! said:

Honestly. No more than 3 movies and two shows a year. And I do think they should have less green writers. I've been harping on the Rick and Morty to MCU pipeline for a minute, It's not so much that although it's a large part of that. It's more I think you need to write a smaller movie like a comedy first before doing a big tentpole as you can learn from your mistakes. McKenna and Sommers did a lot of movies (even though I hate FFH, they knew how to write a script). A lot of people in phases 4-6 either never written a film before or were returning with the former being more so for Phases 5 and 6.

Agreed. and let someone else oversee the shows. Or focus more on special presentations. Rather have that then the shows. It´s just to much for one to oversee for one man. 

[BadOlCatSylvester]

My $87M opening prediction is looking rather generous right about now...

[Sophia Jane]

Just now, BadOlCatSylvester said:

My $87M opening prediction is looking rather generous right about now...

$75m OW and $160m Overall DOM

$280-300m OS

[MovieMan89]

8 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

2x multiplier? Even MoM could scrap 2.2x. LaT 2.4x 

 

I think $240-250M DOM

Not getting as high of an OW as people are thinking it will. It’s going to be insanely preview frontloaded, which is why tracking is looking like it is. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by MovieMan89

[TheFlatLannister]

It's not falling below $90M lol