Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs

[Noctis]

HIGHLY enjoyed this. Funny, with solid action sequences and charming performances.

 

Bullshit at the reviews. Absolute bullshit.

[fabiopazzo2]

1 hour ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said:

One of the problems with Kang is that hes a villian who gets his ass kicked over and over again but shows up with a new version right after. I can see that being lame long term. 

Ehm but this is The point of Kang 

[Nikostar]

3 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

Ehm but this is The point of Kang 

Exactly. That's what makes him a tough villain to destroy and very interesting character 

[Psylocke]

Man people saying the reviews are bullshit shows are MCU fans are imploding.

 

[reddevil19]

Fuckin hell this will be toxic regardless of what the numbers are.

Peace out. 

[ThomasNicole]

Not the Angela Basset thing again lol 

 

We don't care! Good for her and that's it 

 

And yes of course anything under 200M is a colossal bomb ffs, this is post IW / EG, is presenting the big bad new villain and it had 4 years of inflation 

 

It will make 250M tho (which is still meh at best)

Edited February 17, 2023 by ThomasNicole

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Not the Angela Basset thing again lol 

 

We don't care! Good for her and that's it 

 

And yes of course anything under 200M is a colossal bomb ffs, this is post IW / EG, is presenting the big bad new villain and it had 4 years of inflation 

 

It will make 250M tho (which is still meh at best)

MCU is an awards contender!!!

 

The overseas number seem way more concerning.

[Dragoncaine]

Down to 83% all audience score on RT. I guess this points to a B+? Not entirely sure

Edited February 17, 2023 by Dragoncaine

[OncomingStorm93]

It's time Ant-Man & The Wasp got some anti-slander.

 

Is it perfect? No, none of these films are. There's three or four ongoing plot threads that are forced to overlap unnaturally. The plot elements surrounding "Ghost" and Laurence Fishburne are contrived to create artificial tension (this film didn't need a villain honestly, the quest to find Janet could have stood on it's own. Maybe make Goggins the central obstacle, tone down his theatricality, make him more menacing) Luis' business subplot is entirely redundant. Michelle Pfeiffer completely wasted (though thankfully Quantumania, with all it's flaws, gave her something to do)

 

That said...

The core plot is character driven, feels like the natural continuation of the first film, is very well setup with the prologue scene. The film's heart is strong throughout (Quantumania felt soulless).

It's very funny. Paul Rudd doing a Pfeiffer impression for 3 minutes was hilarious. Him shrunk down to grade-school size was great. Randall Park always gets me. The continued use of objects changing sizes (which was pretty much gone from Quantumania). Walton Goggins was a hoot, even if he did step out of a completely different movie.

So much was shot in-camera. If I recall, Hank's lab where much of the film takes place was Marvel's largest practical set at the time.

It exists essentially standalone, except for the credits scene. Very minimal MCU investment needed to fully enjoy this.

Don't recall any of the visual effects being terrible, although Hank's journey into the Quantum Realm at the end looked too green-screeny at times.

 

All in all, it straddled a fine line between weird, accessible, funny, heartfelt, self-contained, and with some truly unique setups that would be hard to imagine in any other MCU film, or most other blockbusters. And it's my favorite of the trilogy.

Edited February 17, 2023 by OncomingStorm93

[Saul Goodman]

37 minutes ago, Psylocke said:

Man people saying the reviews are bullshit shows are MCU fans are imploding.

 

Umm, the naysayers who are celebrating its RT score seem equally if not more toxic lol. And these are the people who will go "see the movie for yourself!" for their favorite franchise.

[OncomingStorm93]

42 minutes ago, Nikostar said:

Exactly. That's what makes him a tough villain to destroy and very interesting character 

 

I thought it was supposed to be his superior intellect, ruthlessness, and master of strategy.

 

With the "army of me" element being secondary, more akin to henchmen.

[TheFlatLannister]

2 hours ago, Landon1195 said:

Why does NWH have such a low score in China?

It was one of the best theatrical experiences ever, but doesn't hold up so well watching it on a couch at home 

[Sophia Jane]

5 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

It was one of the best theatrical experiences ever, but doesn't hold up so well watching it on a couch at home 

Maybe is culture difference,Most view on Chinese internet is that Tom Holland in the movie is so “The mother Mary”,like he always want to save everyone then get everyone killed….

Edited February 17, 2023 by Sophia Jane

[Dephira]

It doesn't seem like WoM is as bad as critics would have suggested? Now I'm almost interested to see it, I thought it would be just boring, but I'm reading pretty positive reactions online

[Ozymandias]

8 hours ago, kayumanggi said:

 

 

Hey look at that, the Chinese censors didn't take the black man off the poster!

 

Baby steps

[TheFlatLannister]

11 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:

Maybe is culture difference,Most view on Chinese internet is that Tom Holland in the movie is so “The mother Mary”,like he always want to save everyone then get everyone killed….

Yeah a cultural thing. NWH hype was up there with Endgame and The Force Awakens here in the states 

[The GOAT]

 

[THUNDER BIRD]

25 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

It was one of the best theatrical experiences ever, but doesn't hold up so well watching it on a couch at home 

Difference between IW/EG and NWH is this for me.

 

While all 3 were some of the best theatrical experiences for me, IW and EG genuinely hold up at home watching on mobile. They are solid solid movies regardless of theatre or home.

 

NWH doesn't, at times you can even see that how they has pauses for where they thought audience would cheer, with the characters holding poses, Dr Strange being dumb and overall story not being as strong as IW/EG

 

[Dragoncaine]

1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said:

Umm, the naysayers who are celebrating its RT score seem equally if not more toxic lol. And these are the people who will go "see the movie for yourself!" for their favorite franchise.

I seem to recall you supporting presumptuous negative opinions about The Flash in the other thread and laugh-reacting to anyone hoping that it's a critical and commercial success. Fans often have biases toward other franchises in favor of their own, this is nothing new.

 

Ideally we'd all be open to anything of quality, but that doesn't happen as often as we'd like to believe. I love much of the MCU output through Phase 3, but have been thoroughly disappointed since. DC has obviously been a trainwreck with a few bright spots.

Edited February 17, 2023 by Dragoncaine

[Flamengo81]

4 hours ago, Landon1195 said:

These OS numbers for Quantumania are getting me worried that GOTG Vol. 3 is going to underperform overseas. I think it will do great domestically but I am worried on how it will do internationally. 

MCU seems to be becoming more domestic heavy in general.