Theatrical to VOD window shortening | 17-31 Day theatrical window for Uni

[Cooper Legion]

47 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Because turns out there aren't many cinephilia here in BoT

Imagine that. Somehow a forum devoted to box office attracts a lot of people who care more about big movies than tiny ones. Truly puzzling 🤔 

[titanic2187]

38 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

Imagine that. Somehow a forum devoted to box office attracts a lot of people who care more about big movies than tiny ones. Truly puzzling 🤔 

turns out somebody who cares about the box office are the one the want cinema to die

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, RealLyre said:

I don’t think that would kill cinemas, we would just be seeing only blockbusters allowed to screen in theaters. Which is restrictive to the consumer as well but we can’t have it both ways so one would be sacrificed. 
 

if cinemas do die, it wouldn’t be the studio policies killing it. It would be the consumer’s decision to choose the alternative.

 

also Netflix wanted to respect their subscribers the same way theaters want studios to respect the theatrical window.  

 

We can have it both ways by having them release movies on VOD a few months later. It's that easy.

 

Also that Netflix comparison makes no sense. Exhibitors aren't saying that movies should never be shown on VOD or streaming lol. 

[lorddemaxus]

54 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

Imagine that. Somehow a forum devoted to box office attracts a lot of people who care more about big movies than tiny ones. Truly puzzling 🤔 

I mean this forum devoted to the box-office seems to attract people that say theaters shouldn't exist anymore.

 

And @RealLyre says he doesn't care if the big movies are not made anymore because the small movies are better. So I'm confused by the argument.

Edited May 2, 2020 by lorddemaxus

[titanic2187]

4 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

I mean this forum devoted to the box-office seems to attract people that say theaters shouldn't exist anymore.

 

And @RealLyre says he doesn't care if the big movies are not made anymore because the small movies are better. So I'm confused by the argument.

It is super disgraceful to see people that come here for the box office numbers, are moving against theatrical experience in return.  

 

It is like seeing people sharing caring post to medical staff that standing up as front-liners during coronavirus on social media but next second you  see him joining the protest against lockdown. How pretentious.    

[RealLyre]

7 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

if the big movies are not made anymore because the small movies are better. So I'm confused by the argument.

isn't that the argument against the VOD/streaming system? that it's not profitable to release blockbusters directly to streaming in comparasion w/ theater release first. 

 

cutting down the budget solves the issue. filmmakers working with limited budgets leads to more creativity and innovation. 

 

I'd still miss Marvel & HP films but it's not the end of the world if those type of films don't get made anymore. 

[RealLyre]

1 minute ago, titanic2187 said:

 

 

It is like seeing people sharing caring post to medical staff that standing up as front-liners during coronavirus on social media but next second you  see him joining the protest against lockdown. How pretentious.    

 

[lorddemaxus]

13 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

isn't that the argument against the VOD/streaming system? that it's not profitable to release blockbusters directly to streaming in comparasion w/ theater release first. 

 

cutting down the budget solves the issue. filmmakers working with limited budgets leads to more creativity and innovation. 

 

I'd still miss Marvel & HP films but it's not the end of the world if those type of films don't get made anymore. 

My point is that if this is a boxoffice forum and people here are supposed to care about the big movies much more than the small ones, then why would they not mind if the only thing that allows studios to make big 150 mil+ blockbuster stops existing? 

 

I just think it's a very odd argument to say "we care about the box-office" or "we care about the big movies" when a day and date release would kill both of those things in a couple of years (when cinemas close down).

Edited May 2, 2020 by lorddemaxus

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

The only thing I’ve learned in the last 3 pages of this thread is that BOT users suck at analogies....

 

[Jamiem]

3 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

The only thing I’ve learned in the last 3 pages of this thread is that BOT users suck at analogies....

 

I didn’t realise how many members are super into botany. 

Edited May 3, 2020 by Jamiem

[charlie Jatinder]

5 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

The only thing I’ve learned in the last 3 pages of this thread is that BOT users suck at analogies....

 

Since you liked mine, I guess, I am free of that statement 😛

[titanic2187]

Some suck at comprehension 

[Krissykins]

On 5/2/2020 at 1:47 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Get a home theatre/big TV and proper sound system, films are coming your home.

Most people do have a great home entertainment set up these days. 
 

However, it obviously can’t match the size, quality and sound of the cinema technology. 
 

And that’s only one element of it, obviously. 
 

After this, I’m sure people will do anything they can not to sit and home and watch tv. 

[Jake Gittes]

 

[antovolk]

 

[Eric Prime]

Apple

1. Sonic the Hedgehog

2. The Assistant

3. Bad Boys for Life

4. The Gentlemen

5. Jumanji: The Next Level

6. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

7. Trolls World Tour

8. Black and Blue

9. Birds of Prey

10. Spies in Disgusie

 

Amazon

1. Trolls World Tour

2. Sonic the Hedgehog

3. The Gentlemen

4. Bad Boys for Life

5. Bloodshot

6. The Greatest Showman

7. Knives Out

8. Little Women

9. Like a Boss

10. Fantasy Island

[CloneWars]

12 hours ago, antovolk said:

 

Of course a smaller chain will side with Universal. If AMC and Regal don't show their movies, then VUE and other small chains could be the only theaters in town showing Universal films, a win for the smaller chains.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 4/13/2020 at 1:12 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

The irony is that the studios didn’t see the bonanza coming. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the video rental business got started in stores owned by record dis­tributors, who first had the idea of selling movies on tape to new owners of videocassette recorders. Later, they moved to renting the films.

But the whole idea made studios un­easy. Warner Bros. and others threatened to withhold films from the storefront mer­ chants. Then the studios sought to have Congress pass a law limiting the mer­chants’ business. Fortunately for all in­volved, Congress listened to local small-business people more than it did big companies.

No action was taken on the matter, and videos became a great and stable source of film industry revenue, contributing im­portantly to making studios more valu­able – witness the recent bidding in which Viacom paid more than 10 billion dollars for Paramount.

How could studio heads a decade ago have missed the promise of such a busi­ness? Simple: They yielded to what is called the displacement fallacy – the idea that a new technology displaces a previous one. It doesn’t. Radio continues alongside television, the movie business has adapted and grown with each new wrinkle in distribution – from theaters to television to growing international markets.

 

[charlie Jatinder]

And India

Quote

Perturbed by the move among some producers to consider the OTT platform as the new window to premiere their films in the wake of the lockdown and the looming uncertainty about when the public will return to cinemas in the new normal scenario even after cinemas are allowed to reopen, the Multiplex Association of India (MAI) has issued an appeal to the film industry to stay united and respect cinemas as the preferred choice of premiere release of their films. The press release, issued by the MAI and the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) states:

“The global coronavirus pandemic has seen the cinema sector suffer massive financial losses, with thousands of screens countrywide forced to close down, and many employees, not just of cinemas, but even their supply chains and other stakeholders, facing personal hardships. The situation is truly unprecedented and unparalleled.

“Collective action to tide over and emerge out of this crisis, from all industry constituents, is more important than ever.

“The Multiplex Association of India (MAI) is committed to working with government institutions and partners through the weeks and months to come to ensure that cinemas survive this testing time and once again become the vibrant home of entertainment, culture and community that they always have been.

“It is crucial that the entire industry unites in rallying against the existential threat to our collective well-being, and that we tackle the crisis unitedly for the sake of our audiences as well as our supply chains and other stakeholders.

“The MAI would like to urge all studio partners, producers, artistes and content creators to support the cinema exhibition sector, a vital part of the value chain, by holding and releasing their films in the theatres, once they open again. To this end, we urge all studios, producers, artistes and other content creators to kindly respect the exclusive theatrical window, which has been a time-tested industry practice, agreed to by all stake-holders, not just in India, but even globally, for several decades.

“When this crisis passes, the combination of the pent-up demand and the promise of new movies, we are sure, would boost film business and contribute massively in reviving our industry. The collective, social experience of watching films on the big screen needs to be preserved and it can be done so, only with the collective support of all stakeholders.

“We are also thankful to the studios, directors, producers and everyone involved in the Indian film industry, who have shown their faith in cinema exhibition by coming out and voicing their support, over the past weeks.

“By supporting each other now, we will return stronger than ever when we are again able to welcome back the many crores of devoted film fans who miss the big screen every bit as much as we do. The Multiplex Association of India (MAI) is a nationwide group of cinema operators that informs, educates and advocates on behalf of the cinema exhibition sector. It works with regulatory bodies and industry partners nationwide to raise the profile of cinema, highlight opportunities, and address various challenges faced by the cinema exhibition sector. The MAI was established in 2002 under the auspices of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce of India (FICCI) by leading cinema operators.”

 

[antovolk]

4 hours ago, CloneWars said:

Of course a smaller chain will side with Universal. If AMC and Regal don't show their movies, then VUE and other small chains could be the only theaters in town showing Universal films, a win for the smaller chains.

Vue is one of the 3 big chains in the UK so.... Oh and there was this

https://deadline.com/2019/02/vue-bafta-roma-awards-criticize-alfonso-cuaron-1202560172/

Major Int’l Cinema Chain Vue Threatens To End BAFTA Support Following Awards For Netflix’s “Made For TV Film” ‘Roma’

So clearly they're calling BS on Universal skipping the window on Bond etc