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THE SUPER MARIO BROS MOVIE WEEKEND THREAD

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1 minute ago, IronJimbo said:

Well then rotten tomatoes is the problem.

 

If critics opinions are unique and only meant to be their opinion and not predicting how others feel, why does rotten tomatoes aggregate them?

 

 

Hey buddy!  It's weird that I didn't see you around much last month!

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36 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Just like when Pixar knocked off Disney, Illumination has now fully knocked off Pixar.


This is a massive exaggeration. Illumination has had the good fortune to have a couple of highly recognizable properties serve as subjects of their recent films. Without them, the company would have no noteworthy content as of late. Any other animation studio would have had the same success with those properties. However, Lightyear would not have been any more successful under the Illumination banner and probably would have performed even worse.
 

As a brand or business, Illumination is barely more recognizable than a generic Silicon Valley start-up. They may receive a budget increase or attract some more scripts in the months to come; but they are nowhere close to being as widely known and trusted as Pixar or WDAS.

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8 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Well then rotten tomatoes is the problem.

 

If critics opinions are unique and only meant to be their opinion and not predicting how others feel, why does rotten tomatoes aggregate them?

Because people like to see aggregates?

 

If someone finds their personal tastes align well to critical consensus, it's a good tool. That's it. 

 

But no one is ever wrong for liking or not liking a movie.

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dont even want to talk about worlwide legs until I know which territories its missing this weekend

 

I know south Korea and Japan, but someone whos not Japanese or Korea mentioned something about a delayed release in their country

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Covid era (2020 onward), Illumination has the 3 biggest/only animation hits (okay Puss is the 4th, but that's Universal, too):

Sing 2

Minions 2

Super Mario Brothers

 

And in their history, they've never had an utter financial miss/bomb (keeping budgets under $100M probably helps).  Only disappointment was probably Pets 2...

 

They grew in the 2010s and have taken over in the 2020s...they have what folks want right now.  

 

The king can always be knocked off...but as Disney knew 1st and Pixar knew after, it helps to be the king, b/c then you get a built in "buying" base, and buying base is priceless...

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Both Mario and PIB2 prove just how stupid the day-to-date streaming release. You can easily milk money from at least 3 people from a single family but streaming just watch money away. I bet when Mario hit on streaming or home media, the movie will just attract the similar number of viewership like other animation that went straight to streaming.

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28 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Well then rotten tomatoes is the problem.

 

If critics opinions are unique and only meant to be their opinion and not predicting how others feel, why does rotten tomatoes aggregate them?

 

Because people want to know if others recommend the movie or not.

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4 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

dont even want to talk about worlwide legs until I know which territories its missing this weekend

 

I know south Korea and Japan, but someone whos not Japanese or Korea mentioned something about a delayed release in their country

 

APRIL

14 Turkiye
19 Philippines
20 Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon, Malaysia
26 South Korea

28 Japan

 

MAY
26 Poland

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11 minutes ago, vafrow said:

Because people like to see aggregates?

 

If someone finds their personal tastes align well to critical consensus, it's a good tool. That's it. 

 

But no one is ever wrong for liking or not liking a movie.

On the same vein, there's no reason for the aggregator to be as mediocre as RT. If you poke around at the site pre-fandango purchase, you'll see them experimenting with a few different objective filters (__ critics circle member, digitial only reviewer, etc.). There was even a "my critics" list for a while. That's all gone replaced by top critic filter or nothing. There's a lot of interesting stuff you could make available under the topline aggregate that RT simply doesn't want to do. 

 

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critical consensus

At least an unweighted critical consensus. 

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1 hour ago, Jonwo said:

Illumination has knocked off Pixar a few times, it doesn't mean Pixar or WDAS is doomed in any way. 

 

pixar hasn’t had a hit in a while and is completely lost. their new movies are just not entertaining like illuminations

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31 minutes ago, LonePirate said:


This is a massive exaggeration. Illumination has had the good fortune to have a couple of highly recognizable properties serve as subjects of their recent films. Without them, the company would have no noteworthy content as of late. Any other animation studio would have had the same success with those properties. However, Lightyear would not have been any more successful under the Illumination banner and probably would have performed even worse.
 

As a brand or business, Illumination is barely more recognizable than a generic Silicon Valley start-up. They may receive a budget increase or attract some more scripts in the months to come; but they are nowhere close to being as widely known and trusted as Pixar or WDAS.

that is simply not true about illumination as a brand. parents 100% know who illumination is and bring their kids to their movies 

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3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

None of them were kids movies until now.

 

3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Families seem like the last ones to return to the theater but Mario pulled them back. 

Demon Slayer pull them earlier though with $518.5M WW back in October 2020-August 2021. No.1 on 2020 WW Annual Chart. 

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