Eric Quinn Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said: Well someone had to appeal to fans of the first since Todd Phillips clearly didn't. Alright Rodney Dangerfield, you got a whole weekend. Can’t use up all that A-grade material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Not really. Mario is mid at best, D&W is mediocre, Inside Out 2 is just ok, No Way Home is awful. Top Gun, Barbie, Avatar 2 and Oppenheimer all great tho. Dungeons and Dragons flopped hard and it was pretty good. Same for Furiosa. Don’t see much co-relation between quality = success. No Way Home is better then D&W, NWH has actual character arcs in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I enjoyed Fall Guy as well. That flopped despite having a good cast. On Joker, its stupidity on the part of WB to push Todd to make a sequel and then make something that pissed off even the folks who enjoyed the 1st movie. It would be funny to see it lose money as they had no business spending 200m on this. There was no CGI scenes or huge action sequences that required a big budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnumbers Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Not really. Mario is mid at best, D&W is mediocre, Inside Out 2 is just ok, No Way Home is awful. Top Gun, Barbie, Avatar 2 and Oppenheimer all great tho. Dungeons and Dragons flopped hard and it was pretty good. Same for Furiosa. Don’t see much co-relation between quality = success. Critics were still pretty positive on those 1st 4, except Mario. So 3. And audiences loved them. I don't think the question was if YOU thought they were good. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said: Nah, No Way Home is awesome Well it’s a reddit movie. I understand why the fans loved it and i’m happy for them. Unfortunaly i was sad while watching. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, justnumbers said: I don't think the question was if YOU thought they were good. Well i can’t talk for others, can i? I don’t believe in “objectively good movies”, it’s all subjective. And i gave exemples of movies that also was well received by critics and audiences and yet they flopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Yet Batgirl was the film they thought the whole world would be offended by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Well it’s a reddit movie. I understand why the fans loved it and i’m happy for them. Unfortunaly i was sad while watching. Well, if you know me. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlatLannister Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Not really. Mario is mid at best, D&W is mediocre, Inside Out 2 is just ok, No Way Home is awful. Top Gun, Barbie, Avatar 2 and Oppenheimer all great tho. Dungeons and Dragons flopped hard and it was pretty good. Same for Furiosa. Don’t see much co-relation between quality = success. This is all subjective lmao. You might dislike inside out 2, Deadpool 3, and NWH but the audience absolutely loved them. audience perceived quality absolutely equals success Edited 13 hours ago by TheFlatLannister 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skim Beeble Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 50 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said: I will eat a shoe if Mufasa does more than Spider-Man No Way Home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said: audience perceived quality absolutely equals success Well if subjective opinions doesn’t count, then there’s nothing recent about this question. Iirc The Lion King remake, Jurassic World Dominion, Transformers 4, The Hobbit etc all have very solid audience reception. If it’s a broad objective question, than basically all movies that grossed a billion was quality movies back than and still are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Well if subjective opinions doesn’t count, then there’s nothing recent about this question. Iirc The Lion King remake, Jurassic World Dominion, Transformers 4, The Hobbit etc all have very solid audience reception. If it’s a broad objective question, than basically all movies that grossed a billion was quality movies back than and still are. You can also look at audience scores and such and legs of a movie to determine reaction as well. I can give an example of a movie that was a smash hit but got poor legs and poor audience scores but Eric likely get triggered so I wont mentioned it XD Edited 13 hours ago by Torontofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDargon Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Well if subjective opinions doesn’t count, then there’s nothing recent about this question. Iirc The Lion King remake, Jurassic World Dominion, Transformers 4, The Hobbit etc all have very solid audience reception. If it’s a broad objective question, than basically all movies that grossed a billion was quality movies back than and still are. Transformers 4 does not have solid audience reception. It's IMDB and RT scores from audiences are quite low. Contrast with something like Mario or Inside Out 2 which have high audience scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago How low can Joker go. Can it miss 35m OW. Definitely wont even hit 60m domestic if it misses 35m OW. I want a glorious spectacular crash like never before seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skim Beeble Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Just now, keysersoze123 said: How low can Joker go. Can it miss 35m OW. Definitely wont even hit 60m domestic if it misses 35m OW. I want a glorious spectacular crash like never before seen. Are we sure this has a chance of a ~5x IM? That would be historic, but tbf so are the posttrak and rt audience scores. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: How low can Joker go. Can it miss 35m OW. Definitely wont even hit 60m domestic if it misses 35m OW. I want a glorious spectacular crash like never before seen. Since you're a tracker is my Robot > Joker OW club still on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MightyDargon said: Transformers 4 does not have solid audience reception. It's IMDB and RT scores from audiences are quite low. Contrast with something like Mario or Inside Out 2 which have high audience scores. TF was always bullied online, but it have solid CS and box office performances for 4 movies straight. I’m inclined to think they’re closer to being perceived as quality movies for the GA. If they make a requel with the original cast back, i bet it would be a huge success. Kinda like The Lion King, people online hated it and yet it did had good legs and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skim Beeble Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but White Bird did $275K in previews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: No Way Home is better then D&W, NWH has actual character arcs in it they’re both bad and I haven’t even seen them Edited 13 hours ago by Hatebox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Put me up for 1-6-12-10-6.5 35.5M OW 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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