Joker: Folie à Deux Weekend Thread

[emoviefan]

8 minutes ago, AJG said:

Bad Boys 2 has 24% on RT. 

I would not say it's a good movie but I love it for just being pure uncut Michael Bay and It's better than any Transformer movie he did.

[Eric Quinn]

Scrooged is a frustrating one as somebody who loves the original Christmas Carol story to pieces. It has the cardinal sin a lot of adaptations fall under where Scrooge is portrayed as too villainous, loves being a dick, and there's no real sense he has a progression or arc or that he's learning anything. It all then leads to some sappy speech at the end that just leads to the whole thing being inconsistent and messy.

 

Supporting cast is fun though. Bobcat Goldthwait is good, Carol Kane's hilarious as always. Just annoying at how hard Frank Cross is fumbled.

[emoviefan]

6 minutes ago, Eric Quinn said:

Scrooged is a frustrating one as somebody who loves the original Christmas Carol story to pieces. It has the cardinal sin a lot of adaptations fall under where Scrooge is portrayed as too villainous, loves being a dick, and there's no real sense he has a progression or arc or that he's learning anything. It all then leads to some sappy speech at the end that just leads to the whole thing being inconsistent and messy.

 

Supporting cast is fun though. Bobcat Goldthwait is good, Carol Kane's hilarious as always. Just annoying at how hard Frank Cross is fumbled.

I think the movie was hurt by the fact that Bill Murray was a miserable shit during the production  and Richard Donner hated working with him. Although Groundhog Day is a stone cold classic and he was terrible during that and it ruined the friendship between him and Ramis . So you never know.

Edited 7 hours ago by emoviefan

[grey ghost]

28 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

In terms of critics battering a good movie, I don't think anything tops "Scrooged".

 

I know some people don't like Blade but I don't believe it deserves to be rotten.

[TheFlatLannister]

2 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Unbelievable. Never thought I would watch a movie due to toxic WOM yet here we are...

 

It can't be that bad

[emoviefan]

2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

I know some people don't like Blade but I don't believe it deserves to be rotten.

The first two are both rotten and do not deserve to be. The third is terrible though.

[Cmasterclay]

Just saw Joker. Who knew Dinesh D'Souza wouldn't direct the worst movie of a given weekend?

[Mickiland16]

Don't worry, as we learned with Birds of Prey, there's always time to rename this like "Joker and Harley Quinn". That's how you save a movie. 

[wattage]

3 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

You fell into the trap just like I did, well now you can speak on the movie with confidence 

[TheFlatLannister]

Complete and utter disbelief leaving the theater. Auditorium was like 10% filled which is rare for a blockbuster on Friday evenings. Few people walked out, mostly young teens. 

 

I will say this was not the worst film i've ever seen, not even the worst CBM of all time (Black Widow still holds that imo). It's just shockingly bland and boring. 

 

We could have been talking about a $120M OW $800M WW finish if this was a normal Joker sequel and not some faux pretentious arthouse project. 

[wattage]

Also can I ask, did anyone see Joker in AMC and get 30 minutes of trailers? Because I legitimately did. I was starting to feel crazy even before the film started. 

[Noctis]

Just now, TheFlatLannister said:

Complete and utter disbelief leaving the theater. Auditorium was like 10% filled which is rare for a blockbuster on Friday evenings. Few people walked out, mostly young teens. 

 

I will say this was not the worst film i've ever seen, not even the worst CBM of all time (Black Widow still holds that imo). It's just shockingly bland and boring. 

 

We could have been talking about a $120M OW $800M WW finish if this was a normal Joker sequel and not some faux pretentious arthouse project. 

 

Black Widow the worst superhero movie of all time? Good grief. That's a movie you largely forget about within 72 hours, not see it as the worst of all time. 

[Cmasterclay]

Let's not pretend Joker is going for arthouse. It's going for a 3rd grader on Reddit's idea of arthouse, maybe.

[MightyDargon]

3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Let's not pretend Joker is going for arthouse. It's going for a 3rd grader on Reddit's idea of arthouse, maybe.

I mean, it is going for arthouse. Nearly 3 hour movie with minimal action scenes and loads of courtroom stuff spliced with musical segments doesn't really scream "commercial comic book movie". That doesn't mean it pulls this off well, though.

[thajdikt]

BLACK WIDOW WAS GREAT

[Cmasterclay]

3 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

I mean, it is going for arthouse. Nearly 3 hour movie with minimal action scenes and loads of courtroom stuff spliced with musical segments doesn't really scream "commercial comic book movie". That doesn't mean it pulls this off well, though.

Not having action scenes is not what arthouse means! I agree it isn't filled with as much commercial CGI gloop horseshit as your average Quantumania, though. I wanted to jump off a slightly less tall building than some of the later stage MCU movies have made me.

[WorkingonaName]

4 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

I mean, it is going for arthouse. Nearly 3 hour movie with minimal action scenes and loads of courtroom stuff spliced with musical segments doesn't really scream "commercial comic book movie". That doesn't mean it pulls this off well, though.

There's a middle between La Dolce Vita and Deadpool&Wolverine.

[grey ghost]

The worst MCU movie for me is Thor Love and Thunder.

 

The worst DC movie is WW84.

 

The worst miscellaneous CBM is probably The Spirit. I didn't see it so I dunno.

[Cmasterclay]

They did a Joker love story jukebox musical and didn't even have him sing about the pompatus of love. Utter failure.

[MightyDargon]

5 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Not having action scenes is not what arthouse means! I agree it isn't filled with as much commercial CGI gloop horseshit as your average Quantumania, though. I wanted to jump off a slightly less tall building than some of the later stage MCU movies have made me.

Dude, it premiered at Cannes. I don't think they were going for Deadpool and Wolverine.