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The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

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No, it really isn't.   One of the bigger problems in Hollywood the last 10 to 20 years is rushing out films before they are ready.  Not gonna tag Tele (as I doubt he wants to be tagged into this thread), but he is right on when he complains about films locking in dates years in advance.   The more I think about it and the more I observe substandard or mediocre films/shows that needed more baking in the oven the more I am convinced that Hollywood's obsession with locking in ca
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Scubasteve716 Indie Sensation

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Stuff like this is all a big joke and kind of embarrassing. WB followed current tax law. You cannot force a company to spend advertising money and distribution money if they don’t want to. You can be upset it’s not getting released, you should want it to get released, but saying stuff like “bring this to the Supreme Court, Biden needs to sign an executive order to release it, Zaslav should go to jail for tax evasion!” just makes you sound like a crazy person who lives in make believe land. 

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PlatnumRoyce Box Office Gold

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4 hours ago, AJG said:

 

It's 2024. 'Domination' in terms of Home Video doesn't mean all that much.

I don't know about aquaman but tell that to John Wick. JW 4 was basically responsible for Lionsgate's $50M increase in home entertainment spending the quarter it was released on VOD & (first few weeks of ) DVD. Similarly, using the-numbers & media play news' year end estimates, it made about $35M in 2023 on DVD instead of the $8M-$10M creed 3 & AM3 made on physical [with John Wick 1 slightly outselling Creed 3]. Physical media is ~1/3 of overall transaction revenue.  

I'm using the first 6 months of 2023's Black Adam DVD sales as a benchmark. 

 

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6 hours ago, JWR said:

May or may not go anywhere. But thought it was worth posting here since it seemed relevant:

 

https://njtoday.news/2024/02/13/lisa-mccormick-demands-justice-for-warner-bros-coyote-vs-acme-tax-scam/?amp=1

 

I do not get the cosnumer advocate language here:

 

shelved to take advantage of an unjustified $30 million tax write-down.

“Americans paid Warner Bros $30 million for this movie 

 

A tax write-down is not taken money from anyone and obviously not tax fraud, if they receive actual money from a state for the production then it is money exchanging hands but for a movie like that a state was only interested in the economic activity around the making of the movie and not the movie existance or being seen (unlike when it is to attract tourist because the movie promote a region)

 

And nothing about this is for profit obviously, it is for cutting lost.

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Barnack Global Phenomenon

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15 minutes ago, Human said:

PVOD, not box office is the future of movie business.  

We had this since at least the 90s, PPV, and it was tried many time to play with the windows, the pandemy create a buzz and did put it on the forefront, but I imagine it crawled back and will need to get closer and cheaper to sustain itself.

 

230305-NA-TVOD-rental-and-sales-revenues

 

There is not many things that was not tried already in the not box office as a first window movie business and nothing was that successful.

 

There was even talk to install stuff in people home theater to receive movie file the theater use and be able to watch them on the day they launched for like $500 a pop or $20k a year (with a plan to cut price after early adopter and the movie distribution tech go down, back then handling 150-300 gigabyte theatrical quality movie file was a big deal) or some other really high price for a while:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/prima-cinema-brings-movies-to-the-home-on-the-day-of-the-release/

 

Audience having been trained to shorter windows anyway and netflix, D+ pricing made the paying $30 to rent a movie for 48 hours less attractive than in the 90s if anything.

 

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9 hours ago, Scubasteve716 said:

 you sound like a crazy person who lives in make believe land. 

 

That is the current location of the further reaches of both of americas largest political parties, so....

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12 hours ago, JWR said:

May or may not go anywhere. But thought it was worth posting here since it seemed relevant:

 

https://njtoday.news/2024/02/13/lisa-mccormick-demands-justice-for-warner-bros-coyote-vs-acme-tax-scam/?amp=1

 

One problem is if Warners continues to pull movies from relase for tax purposes, the IRS will beging to smell tax evasioin.

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PlatnumRoyce Box Office Gold

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9 minutes ago, Speedorito said:

How would a CW show compete with a blockbuster film?

They don't but this is a regular occurrence. 

 

  • DC explicitly vetoed the use of Blue Beetle in Arrow Season 2 because they were planning a BB/BG film (which died). This is why they renamed Ted Kord as "Ray Palmer" and gave the Atom an Iron Man suit.
  • Amanda Waller and The Suicide Squad were featured as a "1-2 times a year" character on Arrow but both were killed off in preparation for (Deadshot also went from being a slightly more frequent than that reoccurring villain to being killed off for the same reason)
  • John Constantine was killed off of/retired from Legends of Tomorrow presumably in preparation for JJ Abraham's JL: Dark tv show that never actually happened (you can tell the CW lost Constantine rights because they continued to use the actor).
  • Gotham & Arrow both clearly had explicit bans on using Harley Quinn despite both shows trying to get around this by implication.
  • Deathstroke started off as a main character of Arrow but was written off for years due to Affleck's Batman using the character.
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