Mojoguy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I know someone who worked on this movie's VFX at MPC (He worked on the shots featuring CG boat models). That must be deflating to know that all your hard work get flushed in the toilet and the movie you worked on get panned all around. Critics are mainly trashing the movie's writing. Your friend can be glad that he had nothing to do with that. Edited October 11, 2015 by Mojoguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Critics are mainly trashing the movie's writing. Your friend can be glad that he had nothing to do with that. Of course, he got nothing to do with that. But most don't give a crap about the quality of the visuals when the movie sucks all around. You'd prefer working on shots that aren't part of a mess but enhanced the experience of a well-crafted movie. On your resume, you'd rather say that you worked on Inside Out and Fury Road rather than F4 or Pan even if you got no control on the end result as your work represents a tiny percentage of the whole endeavour. Thankfully, the VFX industry doesn't think like that to assign job offers and separate the actual work (that might be amazing) from the whole (that could be a turd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I like Joe Wright but it seem WB had too much faith giving him a huge budget when the previous biggest budget he has had as a director was $60m for The Soloist. And who says the failure of the movie is Wright's fault? I'm all too willing to put the blame on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 His regular composer was fired and his regular DP didn't do the reshoots. I think it's safe to say the movie has been out of his hands for a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yeah, he had a pretty hilarious cameo voicing a picture of himself as Wolverine on the wall. That sounds pretty incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 There are stories of great movies being taken away from their directors and ruined by the studio. I doubt Pan is one of them. Like with F4, my theory is that whatever the director's original vision, if that was what was put up on screen it wouldn't have done much better. Maybe it might have gotten better reviews (but a lot of the insane stuff must have been there during principal photography too, so I am actually not sure), but it still wouldn't have turned it from a $15m OW into a $50m OW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 There are stories of great movies being taken away from their directors and ruined by the studio. I doubt Pan is one of them. Like with F4, my theory is that whatever the director's original vision, if that was what was put up on screen it wouldn't have done much better. Maybe it might have gotten better reviews (but a lot of the insane stuff must have been there during principal photography too, so I am actually not sure), but it still wouldn't have turned it from a $15m OW into a $50m OW. In situations like this and FF, it's the studio trying to salvage the film. With FF, it was basically had to be reshot again, with Pan which I imagine is nowhere near the same situation, I imagine the execs from WB saw the unfinished film and realised it hadn't turned out the way they have envisioned and just had to work with what they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The pans that the writing of this film has gotten make me nervous for Wonder Woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I actually quite enjoyed it. Went in with lowered expectations and thought it was a more than fine film for all the family. Occasionally it's really quite something. Solid stuff. A lot of the reviews are like 'why did we need a prequel to Peter Pan?'. Going in with that attitude, it's no wonder they picked at it. It's a million times better than Fantastic Four. I expect good word of mouth from audiences that haven't been put off by quite a cynical critical reaction. I say this as someone who largely loathes Spielberg's Hook, and I'm his biggest fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The pans that the writing of this film has gotten make me nervous for Wonder Woman. I assume WB must have thought Fuchs had potential when they hired him for Wonder Woman and TBH the first script often doesn't resemble what goes on screen since they're usually rewritten with input from the director. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The pans that the writing of this film has gotten make me nervous for Wonder Woman. Er, why? One movie's production has very little to do with the quality of another script. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 That sounds pretty incredible I wouldn't say it's incredible, but yeah, it's a hilarious cameo, and I was actually surprised by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 True. ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Er, why? One movie's production has very little to do with the quality of another script. True. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFanaticGuy34 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 These live action Peter Pan adaptations can be either loved or hated by critics alike. Hook has 30% on RT, this one has 23%. But then again, the 2003 adaptation is at 77%. So at least there is one adaptation that critics DID like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) David Koepp wrote both Jurassic Park, and The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio wrote both Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl, and The Lone Ranger. Akiva Goldsman won Best Adapted Screenplay for A Beautiful Mind, and also wrote Batman & Robin. Edited October 11, 2015 by TServo2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 the latter's a pretty small quality gap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The script for this movie was on the Black List for 2013. Where did everything go so wrong from such presumably promising beginnings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Which one is a small quality gap? Pirates and Lone Ranger, or A Beautiful Mind and Batman & Robin? Edited October 11, 2015 by TServo2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Which one is a small quality gap? Pirates and Lone Ranger, or A Beautiful Mind and Batman & Robin? Oh, I didn't see that you edited your post but now I guess I'll say both of those examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
