Weekend numbers. Moana 28.3 | FB 18.5 | Arrival 7.3 | Allied 7 | DS 6.8 | Trolls 4.6 | Hacksaw 3.4

[cannastop]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The "too cold" criticisms that are being heavily brought up in regards of Jackie are reminding me of Foxcatcher. I'm sure it'll make more than that movie did ($12M) but if I had to guess, it won't be by much without major awards recognition beyond Portman's nomination to propel it.

I think marketing sucked ass for Jackie. On the outside, it looks like a regular-old biopic.

[La Binoche]

Portman's BA frontrunner status seems to be slipping. Would love for Huppert to replace her as the frontrunner. This will help https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/things_to_come_2016

 

 

[La Binoche]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

I think marketing sucked ass for Jackie. On the outside, it looks like a regular-old biopic.

 

Nah that trailer is pretty stunning. 

 

[stephanos13]

Does BO Mojo provide data for the biggest/smallest drops for the following weekend of Thanksgiving?

[TalismanRing]

2 minutes ago, stephanos13 said:

Does BO Mojo provide data for the biggest/smallest drops for the following weekend of Thanksgiving?

 

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/postthanksgiving.htm?page=drop&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/postthanksgiving.htm?page=hold&p=.htm

[stephanos13]

2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/postthanksgiving.htm?page=drop&p=.htm

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/postthanksgiving.htm?page=hold&p=.htm

 

Thank you

[Spidey Freak]

21 minutes ago, cannastop said:

I think marketing sucked ass for Jackie. On the outside, it looks like a regular-old biopic.

 

The Wall Street Journal review actually confirmed the most annoying and distracting discrepancy I picked up from the trailers. Apparently the movie doesn't quite know what it wants to be: a nostalgic celebration of a "Golden Era" or a more pragmatic look at the behind the scenes workings to build larger than life perceptions of real life people and events.

[Spidey Freak]

2 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

I still think it's because no good filmmaker wants to truly take them seriously as films, which is annoying. CBMs were a joke once too until filmmakers started realizing their potential.  

 

The thing with superhero films is that the genre has such a well-defined archetype in Superman (both comics and cinema) and you cannot ask for a better kick-off/template for any genre than Donner's original.*

 

And the good thing is, there has always been a franchise or two that have picked up slack when one started to trickle out. Once Superman started going to shit, Burton's Batman came to the rescue. Once Schumacher ruined Batman, Singer and Raimi almost immediately introduced X-Men and Spider-Man. Once those franchises started to burn out, Nolan's TDK trilogy hit its prime and the MCU started to roll. 

 

There have been troughs but the peaks have always been there. And the starting point of the genre as we know it today is still so well-regarded and respected that the goodwill trickles down to the entire genre when it comes to critic circles, more knowledgeable moviephiles and people working in the industry.

 

What were the pioneer video game films? Mario Super Bros and Mortal Kombat? What are the pinnacles? Resident Evil and Tomb Raider? Already too much baggage. I agree that the genre, like any genre, needs interest from good filmmakers, but you can see why it is so hard to take it seriously as opposed to the CBM genre even if the latter has had its fair share of lows too.

 

And let's not forget that Superman was already an iconic and inspiring figure well before 1978. What is the "Superman" equivalent of video games? Donkey Kong/Mario is the only one I think comes closest. How do you give that the amount of gravitas that Donner gave Superman? Maaybe in animation? It's a challenge for sure.

 

*Yeah, I know the film had predecessors but those were so incredibly few and far in between that they are largely irrelevant to the way the genre is regarded. Or in the case of the 60's Batman movie, it's own little thing that perfectly fit the aesthetics of the very specific time that it was a product of.

[dxmatrixdt]

RESERVED SEATING REPORT FOR 8:00-8:55 ONLY

 

8:00	Hacksaw	42	$21.75	$913.50
	FB	64	$18.00	$1,152.00
	Incarnate	29	$12.00	$348.00
	Trolls	41	$12.00	$492.00
	BS2	6	$12.25	$73.50
	Incarnate	17	$13.25	$225.25
	BS2	41	$11.50	$471.50
	Moana	139	$12.60	$1,751.40
8:05	BS2	22	$12.60	$277.20
8:10	Man Down	13	$12.60	$163.80
	Edge 17	40	$14.00	$560.00
	BS2	26	$12.25	$318.50
	Moana	111	$13.00	$1,443.00
	FB	47	$13.25	$622.75
	Moana XD	56	$14.50	$812.00
8:15	Arrival	58	$21.75	$1,261.50
	Allied	54	$22.00	$1,188.00
	Incarnate	21	$12.60	$264.60
	Moana	116	$12.25	$1,421.00
	Incarnate	29	$12.50	$362.50
	Arrival	59	$14.00	$826.00
8:20	BS2	26	$13.00	$338.00
	FB	80	$13.00	$1,040.00
	Incarnate	41	$12.25	$502.25
8:30	BS2	47	$14.00	$658.00
	FB	71	$12.25	$869.75
	FB	55	$12.25	$673.75
	FB	49	$21.75	$1,065.75
	Arrival	59	$22.00	$1,298.00
	Moana RPX	100	$19.00	$1,900.00
8:45	Dr. S	16	$21.75	$348.00
	FB	75	$22.00	$1,650.00
	Moana	102	$12.50	$1,275.00
	Moana	86	$12.50	$1,075.00
8:50	Trolls	7	$13.00	$91.00
	Moana	89	$12.25	$1,090.25
8:55	Moana	85	$12.60	$1,071.00

[Mojoguy]

Reserved seating is horrible.

[eXtacy]

5 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Reserved seating is horrible.

 

The theater I always go to does not do it. Its good for the really big releases. Some people would just avoid opening weekends otherwise.

[DAJK]

Arrival was our busiest movie tonight @Ethan Hunt

[grey ghost]

44 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

The Wall Street Journal review actually confirmed the most annoying and distracting discrepancy I picked up from the trailers. Apparently the movie doesn't quite know what it wants to be: a nostalgic celebration of a "Golden Era" or a more pragmatic look at the behind the scenes workings to build larger than life perceptions of real life people and events.

 

Why not both?

 

It actually sounds like an interesting mix. 

[grey ghost]

20 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Reserved seating is horrible.

 

How so? 

[AStarWarsFan]

How much is Doctor Strange set to make this weekend?

 

BOM says $7.1M

[Mojoguy]

How so?

Fighting for good seats in a movie theater is an American tradition.

Also Reserved never sells out since no one wants to order the closest to the screen tickets.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Mojoguy

[eXtacy]

About that time we prostrate to our gods for numbers

 

 

[robertman2]

Is Incarnate bombing?

[robertman2]

1 hour ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

The thing with superhero films is that the genre has such a well-defined archetype in Superman (both comics and cinema) and you cannot ask for a better kick-off/template for any genre than Donner's original.*

 

And the good thing is, there has always been a franchise or two that have picked up slack when one started to trickle out. Once Superman started going to shit, Burton's Batman came to the rescue. Once Schumacher ruined Batman, Singer and Raimi almost immediately introduced X-Men and Spider-Man. Once those franchises started to burn out, Nolan's TDK trilogy hit its prime and the MCU started to roll. 

 

There have been troughs but the peaks have always been there. And the starting point of the genre as we know it today is still so well-regarded and respected that the goodwill trickles down to the entire genre when it comes to critic circles, more knowledgeable moviephiles and people working in the industry.

 

What were the pioneer video game films? Mario Super Bros and Mortal Kombat? What are the pinnacles? Resident Evil and Tomb Raider? Already too much baggage. I agree that the genre, like any genre, needs interest from good filmmakers, but you can see why it is so hard to take it seriously as opposed to the CBM genre even if the latter has had its fair share of lows too.

 

And let's not forget that Superman was already an iconic and inspiring figure well before 1978. What is the "Superman" equivalent of video games? Donkey Kong/Mario is the only one I think comes closest. How do you give that the amount of gravitas that Donner gave Superman? Maaybe in animation? It's a challenge for sure.

 

*Yeah, I know the film had predecessors but those were so incredibly few and far in between that they are largely irrelevant to the way the genre is regarded. Or in the case of the 60's Batman movie, it's own little thing that perfectly fit the aesthetics of the very specific time that it was a product of.

The problem with a lot of video games is that there's very little story to adapt (most Nintendo and fighting games) or too much story (everything else). I like the fact Assassin's Creed is a side story to the games a lot, instead of being an adaptation.

[MinaTakla]

The top 11 pics for Dec. 2-4, 2016 per industry estimates as of Friday evening:

1). Moana  (DIS), 3,875 Theaters (0) / $6.5M Fri (-70%) / 3-day cume: $30.3M (-47%)/Total: $121.8M/Wk 2

2). Fantastic Beasts…  (WB), 3,988 theaters (-156) /$5.3M Fri. (-71%)  / 3-day cume: $17.2M (-62%)/Total: $182.2M/Wk 3

3). Allied (PAR), 3,160 Theaters (0) /$2.2M Fri (-55%)/3-day cume: $7.7M(-39%) /Total: $29.6/Wk 2

4).Doctor Strange  (DIS), 2,935 theaters (-73) /$1.8M Fri (-67%) /3-day cume: $6.7M (-51%) /Total cume: $215.5M/Wk 5

5). Arrival  (PAR), 2,915 theaters (+473)/$2M Fri (-55%)/3-day cume: $6.6M (-43%)/Total:$72.4M/ Wk 4

6.) Trolls  (DWA/20^th Century Fox), 3,156 theaters (-166) /$1.09m Fri (-73%)/3-day cume: $4.9M (-54%) /Total Cume: $141.7M/Wk 5

7). Hacksaw Ridge  (Lionsgate), 2,494 theaters (+162) / $958K Fri (-56%)/3-day:$3.1M (-42%)/Total: $57.1M/ Wk 5

8.)  Bad Santa 2  (BG/MX), 2,945 Theaters (+25) /$901K Fri (-61%) / 3-day cume: $2.8M (-55%)/Total: $13.8M/Wk 2

9). Almost Christmas  (UNI), 1,556 theaters (-213) /$692K Fri (-70%)/ 3-day cume: $2.4M (-58%)/Total: $38.1M/ Wk 4

10.) Manchester by the Sea (RSA/AMZ) 156 theaters  (+108)/$653K Fri/3-day: $2.2M (+85%)/Total: $4.3M/Wk 3

11.) Incarnate (BH/T) 1,737 theaters/$800K Fri (includes previews of $120K)/3-day: $2.1m/Wk 1

Jackie (FSL) 5 theaters/$80K Fri/$51K PTA/3-day: $255K/Wk 1