The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[WrathOfHan]

These presales are looking good for a sub-30M opening

[YM!]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

These presales are looking good for a sub-30M opening

I do think it’ll be more walk up based so $30M isn’t dead quite yet but $35M is deaded.

[filmlover]

Skyscraper is getting tepid reviews, as expected. Probably not gonna move the needle in a positive direction like it needed given how quiet buzz has been for it.

[YM!]

On 7/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, YourMother the Edgelord said:

North Shore Cinema update 

 

Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation is running 300% ahead of Wrinkle ($140.4M OW), 240% ahead of Daddy’s Home 2 ($101.4M OW), 50% ahead of Wonder ($41.25M OW) and 14% ahead of Coco ($58M OW)

 

The latter two seem to be the best comparisons however this is on pace to be the second highest animated movie (behind I2) in presales I’ve tracked at North Shore. If reviews are about the same as the original which isn’t asking for much it should do somewhere in the $45M-$50M OW range.

 

Skyscraper is running 70% behind The Golden Circle ($12M OW), 60% behind Dunkirk ($20M OW), 58% behind Apes ($23.6M OW)

 

I know this will be walk up based but these presales regardless are awful. Thinking $25M-$35M OW. 

North Shore Cinema update 

 

 

Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation is running 191% ahead of Wonder ($78.7M OW), 105% ahead of Daddy 2 ($59.7M OW), 46% ahead of Wrinkle ($51M OW) and 23% behind Coco ($38.8M OW).

 

Although it probably won’t catch up to Coco, these are still great numbers. Although the fact it’s lagging behind Coco, it should still be good for at least $40M. I feel the floor is $40M and the ceiling is $50M. As for $50M+, Reviews are currently at 82% on RT and imo that can help for walkups and family film presale wise it seems there.

 

Skyscraper is running 76% behind Dunkirk ($12M OW) and 45% behind Orient Express ($15.7M OW)

 

Yes, I know they’re not the best comps but Skyscraper has only sold 11 tickets here, it is selling like shit. Walk ups will help but honestly $30M is dead. Thinking $25M-$28M OW.

Edited July 10, 2018 by YourMother the Edgelord

[Eric Prime]

3 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Gurl plz, Amanda Seyfried is the real draw here 

I don't disagree with that.

 

[wboxoffice]

17 hours ago, Barnack said:

Fandango sales today (well since 4:00 am):

 

Ant-Man	8317
Incredib	3101
Jurassic	2663
The Firs	1212
Sicario	631
Hotel Tr	619
Uncle Dr	542
Oceans 8	491
Wont You	329
Tag (201	220
Whitney	209
Skyscrap	170
Solo A S	167
Mamma M	156
Deadpool	156
Attack o	132
Avengers	125
Mission	96
Sanju	94
Trolls	91
Sorry to	83
Beatles	60
Heredita	58
The Equa	36

 

 

Mothers planning the activity in advance is a possible phenomenon for a movie like HT vs a Skyscraper and obviously being a sequel, that said the delta between the 2 is quite huge at the moment. But even more than for a Jurassic Park, pre-sales much in advance much be such a tiny ridiculous fraction of a movie like that business that it must have a lot of noise if we could look at the usual multiplier (who are those people buying ticket in advance for movie like those.....).

 

Mamma Mia tend to outsell cleanly Mission Impossible since the beginning also (making the rumors it was tracking ahead not crazy at all)

 

What do these numbers mean?  Thanks!

[YM!]

50 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

These presales are looking good for a sub-30M opening

 

48 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

I do think it’ll be more walk up based so $30M isn’t dead quite yet but $35M is deaded.

Scratch my earlier post, $30M is dead.

[Krissykins]

55 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

These presales are looking good for a sub-30M opening

 

I’ve learned recently not to put much faith in the info from this thread lol. 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Krissykins

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, wboxoffice said:

 

What do these numbers mean?  Thanks!

Someone on this message board posted a python script running website that look at all the sales made on the fandango website that you can follow here:

 

https://www.fandango.com/dataviz/index.html

 

Instead of counting them by hands, the site he made does it for you:

http://akvalley.pythonanywhere.com/static/Fandango_track.txt

 

The numbers I posted is simply in excel accumulating all the sales of the days (combining 3d/imax/fan event's sales for the same movie into one number)

 

 

 

[MattW]

Someone posted the Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday before release cumulative fandango sales for a bunch of movies.  Is that available for Skyscraper for Monday?  I should probably be less lazy and keep track myself.

[WrathOfHan]

On 7/3/2018 at 3:46 PM, WrathOfHan said:

Gotti and Tag are gone.

 

Ant-Man and the Wasp: 18 (15 2D/3 3D; XL x2, Average, and Smallest x0.5)

The First Purge: 5 (Average)

Won't You Be My Neighbor?: 5 (Smallest)

 

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 11 (Down 8 and lost 3D; Biggest and Average x1.5)

Incredibles 2: 7 (Down 7; Biggest and Average x0.5)

Sicario: Day of the Soldado: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

Uncle Drew: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

Ocean's 8: 2 (Down 3; Smallest x0.5)

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

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XL: 300 (two screens are this size)

Biggest: 130 (two screens are this size)

Average: 100 (four screens are this size; one has five extra seats)

Smallest: 47 (four screens are this size)

 

 

Ocean's 8 is gone.

 

Hotel Transylvania 3: 13 (10 2D/3 3D; XL x0.6, Biggest, and Smallest x0.6)

Skyscraper: 8 (6 2D/2 3D; XL x0.4, Biggest, and Smallest x0.4)

 

Ant-Man and the Wasp: 10 (Down 8 and lost 3D; XL and Average)

The First Purge: 5 (Flat; Average)

Incredibles 2: 5 (Down 2; Average)

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 5 (Down 6; Average)

Sicario: Day of the Soldado: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

Uncle Drew: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

Won't You Be My Neighbor?: 5 (Flat; Smallest)

 

Auditorium sizes for reference:

Spoiler

XL: 300 (two screens are this size)

Biggest: 130 (two screens are this size)

Average: 100 (four screens are this size; one has five extra seats)

Smallest: 47 (four screens are this size)

 

 

[Cooper Legion]

2 hours ago, MattW said:

Someone posted the Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday before release cumulative fandango sales for a bunch of movies.  Is that available for Skyscraper for Monday?  I should probably be less lazy and keep track myself.

 

11 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Fandango App	Monday	Tues	Wed
A Quiet Place	2177	4003	10665
Blockers	504	1106	2931
Rampage	705	1508	4109
Truth Or Dare	385	760	2133
Super Troopers	2825	3447	6881
I Feel Pretty	871	1610	4423
Avengers: Infinity War	49836	54892	68826
Overboard	84	409	1044
Breaking In	727	1204	2899
Life Of The Party	587	1310	3010
Deadpool 2	23134	28896	41212
Show Dogs	6	128	369
Book Club	836	1599	3283
SW: Solo	13688	15855	28533
Action Point	17	48	197
Upgrade	9	119	522
Adrift	63	308	1268
Oceans 8	3009	4372	11114
Hereditary	659	1178	3181
Hotel Artemis	26	166	520
Incredibles 2	20872	23430	39337
Tag	314	660	1448
Jurassic World 2	9310	12761	23,266
Sicaro 2	788	1282	3403
Uncle Drew	274	473	1201
Antman & The Wasp	6613	5990	11108
Purge (WED OD)	2885	8308
Hotel Transylvania 3	1,753
Skyscaper	586

 

 

Skyscraper at 83% of Rampage's Monday (if that held - $29.67m opening)

Trans 3 at  8.4% of Incredibles 2 (no great comp since I2 should be much more pre-sale heavy than the usual animation)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Porthos]

8 hours ago, Krissykins said:

 

I’ve learned recently not to put much faith in the info from this thread lol. 

[YM!]

North Shore Cinema update 

 

Ant Man and The Wasp has lost Ultrascreen DLX (my theater’s PLF) to Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation (mornings to afternoons) and Skyscraper (nights)

[TwoMisfits]

For those hoping for under $30M for HT, between my 1st local's set and its already gained $1M+ from June 30...ummm...you might be starting pretty far behind the 8-ball...again, while I don't have time for a full set, my 1st local (Cinemark) is giving TWO screens to HT3 (11 showings - 3 3d, 8 2d), while only 1 to Skyscraper (5 showings - 1 3d, 4 2d).  In other news, it is dropping I2 and JW2 to a single smallest screen each - Ant Man keeps 3 screens, but I think it will lose showings to Skyscraper if that movie's presales ever pick up b/c I don't think AM2 sold all that well there this past weekend...

[WrathOfHan]

On 7/3/2018 at 4:44 PM, WrathOfHan said:

Solo: A Star Wars Story and SuperFly are gone.

 

Ant-Man and the Wasp: 14 (7 2D/7 3D; Biggest, Average, and 4th Smallest)

The First Purge: 5 (Average)

 

Incredibles 2: 8 (Down 4 and lost 3D; Average x1.8)

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 8 (Down 4; 6 2D/2 3D; 2nd Biggest and Average)

Ocean's 8: 5 (Flat; 3rd Smallest)

Sicario: Day of the Soldado: 5 (Flat; 2nd Smallest and Smallest)

Tag: 5 (Flat; 2nd Smallest and Smallest)

Uncle Drew: 5 (Flat; Average)

Deadpool 2: 1 (Down 4; Average x0.2)

 

During the weekend, Ant-Man gains an extra screen at the expense of Ocean's 8 and Tag, and The First Purge takes some night shows from Incredibles.

 

Auditorium sizes for reference (all seats are recliners if you're wondering why they're small):  

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Biggest: 124 seats

2nd Biggest: 113 seats

Average: 78 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

4th Smallest: 69 seats

3rd Smallest: 67 seats

2nd Smallest: 63 seats

Smallest: 60 seats

 

 

Deadpool 2, Sicario: Day of the Soldado, and Tag are gone.

 

Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation: 10 (6 2D/4 3D; Biggest and Average)

Skyscraper: 10 (7 2D/3 3D; 2nd Biggest and Average)

 

Ant-Man and the Wasp: 13 (Down 1; 9 2D/4 3D; Average x2 and 4th Smallest)

The First Purge: 5 (Flat; 3rd and 2nd Smallest)

Incredibles 2: 5 (Down 3; Average)

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 5 (Down 3 and lost 3D; 3rd and 2nd Smallest)

Uncle Drew: 5 (Flat; Average)

Ocean's 8: 4 (Down 1; Smallest)

 

Auditorium sizes for reference (all seats are recliners if you're wondering why they're small):  

Spoiler

Biggest: 124 seats

2nd Biggest: 113 seats

Average: 78 seats (6 auditoriums are this size)

4th Smallest: 69 seats

3rd Smallest: 67 seats

2nd Smallest: 63 seats

Smallest: 60 seats

 

 

[WrathOfHan]

lmfao @ Jurassic World getting moved to smaller auditoriums  @CJohn

[TalismanRing]

Fandango App	Monday	Tues	Wed
A Quiet Place	2177	4003	10665
Blockers	504	1106	2931
Rampage	705	1508	4109
Truth Or Dare	385	760	2133
Super Troopers	2825	3447	6881
I Feel Pretty	871	1610	4423
Avengers: Infinity War	49836	54892	68826
Overboard	84	409	1044
Breaking In	727	1204	2899
Life Of The Party	587	1310	3010
Deadpool 2	23134	28896	41212
Show Dogs	6	128	369
Book Club	836	1599	3283
SW: Solo	13688	15855	28533
Action Point	17	48	197
Upgrade	9	119	522
Adrift	63	308	1268
Oceans 8	3009	4372	11114
Hereditary	659	1178	3181
Hotel Artemis	26	166	520
Incredibles 2	20872	23430	39337
Tag	314	660	1448
Jurassic World 2	9310	12761	23,266
Sicaro 2	788	1282	3403
Uncle Drew	274	473	1201
Antman & The Wasp	6613	5990	11108
Purge (WED OD)	2885	8308
Hotel Transylvania 3	1,753	2,674
Skyscraper	586	1,019

 

 

 

July 13th
Hotel Trans 3	1,753	2,674
Skyscraper	586	1,019
July 20th
Mamma Mia 2	436	473
Equalizer	128	118
July 27th
MI6	286	271
Aug 3rd
Christopher Robin	125	280

[WrathOfHan]

Skyscraper is running at 68% of Rampage, which would be 24.3M  

[TalismanRing]

Skyscraper now down to 67.5% of Rampage

Christopher Robin is kicking names and taking asses