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Posted by Porthos,

Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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On 9/6/2021 at 10:39 PM, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Malignant Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 38 29 5749 0.50%

 

Comp

0.041x of Conjuring 3 Monday Before Release (403.9K)

0.215x of Old Monday Before Release (322K)

1.450x of Reminiscence Monday Before Release (986K)

 

I will forgive this movie for the moment, if only because tonight's a holiday night, so people aren't thinking about buying movie tickets and junk. But this is still pretty concerning.

Malignant Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 59 65 7964 0.82%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 21

Total Seats Added Today: 2,215

Total Seats Sold Today: 36

 

Comp

0.064x of Conjuring 3 Tuesday Before Release (632.9K)

0.342x of Old Tuesday Before Release (513K)

2.708x of Reminiscence Tuesday Before Release (1.84M)

 

So I screwed up on the Reminiscence comp, comping it with the total weekend instead of opening day. Oops! Either way...yeah, not much to write home about.

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BestPicturePlutoNash Box Office Gold

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14 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Spiderman, Matrix, and King's Man will be fighting for IMAX screens lol.

Oh god, Kingsman. Every time I get the trailer now I'm just reminded of how many times I suffered through it in 2019 and early 2020. Put that film out of its misery

 

Also sucks, a terrible movie like that will probably block my Cinemark from getting PTA or Nightmare Alley's expansion during Christmas

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9 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Is Matrix getting IMAX or will Spiderman still have it?

From what I remember, though someone can correct me if I'm wrong, Bumblebee and Aquaman shared IMAX, with Bumblebee in the afternoon and Aquaman in the evening. Maybe that's something they'll do? Or I guess Spider-Man will just five days of IMAX play? Warner has a stronger deal/advantage in IMAX play after all, so it does kind of make sense.

 

This is one of those moments where I'm really glad I'm not a theater owner, because this Christmas reeks of 2018, when Spider-Verse, Mortal Engines, Poppins, Aquaman, and Bumblebee were all trying to scramble to get IMAX and PLFs from one another. Sing 2 and King's Man will probably try and get into the Dolby/RPX fight this season, so things will get tricky.

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Spiderman, if it releases on Dec 17, will not lose PLFs for the Christmas season - take that to the bank.  At most, it will split them, b/c it will be the far and away desired product...

 

Matrix 4 and King's Man Prequel will be fighting for who gets the splits with Spidey if they both stay...

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Just now, TwoMisfits said:

Spiderman, if it releases on Dec 17, will not lose PLFs for the Christmas season - take that to the bank.  At most, it will split them, b/c it will be the far and away desired product...

 

Matrix 4 and King's Man Prequel will be fighting for who gets the splits with Spidey if they both stay...

I don't think it would be much of a fight if Spidey has to split. I am not sure about Matrix 4 but it should still destroy Kingsman. 

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6 minutes ago, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

Disney should move King’s Man anyway. NWH could be near 100M that weekend.

Hope you mean "move it up" because that movie needs to be finally put out of its misery already lmao. Promotion for it began in July 2019 for a February 2020 release originally.

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Ehh, King's Man smells like a Mortal Engines/47 Ronin style dump to me. Just feels like a movie Disney doesn't care about for a variety of factors. Golden Circle killed a lot of goodwill, there's none of the original cast to get fans like me invested, the franchise in general doesn't seem like one Disney is all that invested into, lot of other non-Free Guy Fox movies have been somewhat neglected, it's been delayed so many times, think there's word of bad production/test screens IIRC. Think at this point Disney just wants to wash their hands of it, so don't expect any special treatment sadly.

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If anything, I would've moved up King's Man. It would've been a nice title to have during this slow September period. Think it could've slotted into September 17 without hurting much, if any, of Shang-Chi's business.

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23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Monday

MTC1  - 346635/974575 4305023.03 5531 shows

MTC2 -  287913/880293 2909798.72 6079 shows

Shang Chi Tuesday

MTC1 - 139676/653365 1975786.33 3678 shows

MTC2 - 126013/661343 858009.49 4813 shows

 

MTC2's average ticket price went down huge due to discount tuesday. I think drop will be in low 60s. But the variance of MTC1/2 makes it a hard day to guess. Still another excellent day for Shang Chi. 

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9 minutes ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Ehh, King's Man smells like a Mortal Engines/47 Ronin style dump to me. Just feels like a movie Disney doesn't care about for a variety of factors. Golden Circle killed a lot of goodwill, the franchise in general doesn't seem like one Disney is all that invested into, lot of other non-Free Guy Fox movies have been somewhat neglected, it's been delayed so many times, think there's word of bad production/test screens IIRC. Think at this point Disney just wants to wash their hands of it, so don't expect any special treatment sadly.

I think the biggest killer for it is the fact it's a prequel set decades prior, meaning Taron and Colin (the stars everyone associates these movies with) are nowhere to be found. You can tell it was one of the last Fox projects to be given the green light before the sale.

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19 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Hope you mean "move it up" because that movie needs to be finally put out of its misery already lmao. Promotion for it began in July 2019 for a February 2020 release originally.

Yeah I was thinking up more than back.

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9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Tuesday

MTC1 - 139676/653365 1975786.33 3678 shows

MTC2 - 126013/661343 858009.49 4813 shows

 

MTC2's average ticket price went down huge due to discount tuesday. I think drop will be in low 60s. But the variance of MTC1/2 makes it a hard day to guess. Still another excellent day for Shang Chi. 

EC number suggesting drop in low 60s, well done. Great PSm growth.

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20 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Tuesday

MTC1 - 139676/653365 1975786.33 3678 shows

MTC2 - 126013/661343 858009.49 4813 shows

 

MTC2's average ticket price went down huge due to discount tuesday. I think drop will be in low 60s. But the variance of MTC1/2 makes it a hard day to guess. Still another excellent day for Shang Chi. 

2 is usually heavier in weekdays, but 1 is still doing great. I suppose this is due to shifting of bizz from weekend to discount day in East coast.

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23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Tuesday

MTC1 - 42735/625322 629919.07 3448 shows

MTC2 - 32292/637156 225779.80 4610 shows

 

Obviously its a weekday in September and I am not sure discount tuesday is anything like pre-covid. Still looks good to me.

Shang Chi Wednesday

MTC1 - 19016/618693 292054.24 3389 shows

MTC2 - 13001/637036 144744.12 4366 shows

 

Obviously this is wednesday. Drop will be big. 

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