The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[grim22]

Presale #s update for WW thanks to our anonymous user. Wonder Woman Tuesday afternoon number is 5% higher than the number we had for Suicide Squad on Tuesday morning of release.

[YM!]

3 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Presale #s update for WW thanks to our anonymous user. Wonder Woman Tuesday afternoon number is 5% higher than the number we had for Suicide Squad on Tuesday morning of release.

Yep $150M OW is locked.

[John Marston]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Yep $150M OW is locked.

 

 

How? Nothing points to it. 90-100m seems more realistic 

Edited May 30, 2017 by John Marston

[grim22]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Yep $150M OW is locked.

 

We don't know final SS numbers or how they escalated. It depends on how much WW can presell over the next 3 days.

[TalismanRing]

Suicide Squad on  7/30/16 (Saturday)
-197 showings
-46 Reserved
-3 sellouts (0 complete)

 

Wonder Woman (5/27/17)  (Saturday)
-161 showings
-86 Reserved
-0 sellouts 

 

Suicide Squad on  (8/2/16)  (Tuesday; 8:30pm)

- 268 Showings
- 76 Reserved
- 12 Sell outs (2 complete)

 

Wonder Woman (6/30/17)  (Tuesday 7pm)
-193 showings
-106 Reserved
-10 sellouts (0 complete)

 

(* 3 sellouts at the Alamo, 1 Dolby (these sell really well), 1 4x,  no Imax yet though Lincoln Center 7pm is close)

 

 

Other earlier & later comparisons

 

Civil War on 5/1/16 (Sunday)

277 showings/ 62 Reserved / 27 sellouts (5 complete)

Civil War 5/5/16 (Thur)
459 showings / 96 Reserved /87 sellouts (37 complete)

 

GOTG2  (Thur)

342 showings/ 88 reserved/ 31 sellouts

 

Edited May 30, 2017 by TalismanRing

[Biggestgeekever]

1 minute ago, grim22 said:

 

We don't know final SS numbers or how they escalated. It depends on how much WW can presell over the next 3 days.

Suicide Squad was also pre-Carmike as well, right?

[TalismanRing]

7 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Presale #s update for WW thanks to our anonymous user. Wonder Woman Tuesday afternoon number is 5% higher than the number we had for Suicide Squad on Tuesday morning of release.

 

With or without Carmike?

[TalismanRing]

5 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Yep $150M OW is locked.

 

Not seeing that in NYC at all - it's well behind GOTG2 and even SS

[Wonder89]

SS final thursday numbers was?

[YM!]

12 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

With or without Carmike?

Any movie after April 2017 is with Carmike.

[keysersoze123]

18 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

We don't know final SS numbers or how they escalated. It depends on how much WW can presell over the next 3 days.

 

By this time Suicide Squad was battling toxic reviews. It definitely had the impact in OW being what it is instead of 140-150m. Wonder Woman is locked to accelerate like crazy. This is like The Dark Knight. Watch it explode and walk ins like never before for a DC film.

[TalismanRing]

4 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Any movie after April 2017 is with Carmike.

 

I know, I was wondering if the 5% calculation took that into account.   If not it would be behind SS and not ahead (not even taking into account the increase in pre-sales over the last 10 months)

[YM!]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

I know, I was wondering if the 5% calculation took that into account.   If not it would be behind SS and not ahead (not even taking into account the increase in pre-sales over the last 10 months)

I remember someone saying Carmike was an extra 10% to the total presales, however even when we took away the 10% recently with GV2 (which would've been an OW in $120M-$128M) it did about the same ratio as expected with Civil War ($146.5M vs $147M) with the 10% included.

Edited May 30, 2017 by YourMother

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

 

By this time Suicide Squad was battling toxic reviews. It definitely had the impact in OW being what it is instead of 140-150m. Wonder Woman is locked to accelerate like crazy. This is like The Dark Knight. Watch it explode and walk ins like never before for a DC film.

 

 

SS also had the T Mobile free ticket thing for previews which boosted it's sales.  Even then with the toxic reviews there were those claiming it would do  BvS numbers and higher, even higher than CW.

 

Define accelerate like crazy?   I don't see the screens in NYC filling up at any exponential rate today when if people were waiting for reviews they would have.  Lincoln Center's first showing in IMAX still isn't sold out.  Women tend to buy tickets early (we like to plan) - see B&B, 50 Shades etc   This isn't F&F.

 

The Dark Knight was 1) Batman 2) came on the back of Batman Begins which was popular & leggy and had huge home video sales and 3) had Heath Ledger's death & the attendant media circus 4) had reviews calling it a masterpiece

[WrathOfHan]

Again, it's hard to say if this will end up over SS because of several reasons:

 

1. The pool of theaters is much bigger than in August

2. Reserved seating has increased

3. T-Mobile just had an Atom deal

 

This does bode well for 115+, though.

[BeastByTheBay]

There's no way to account for walk up business right? Either they show up in droves or not?

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, BeastByTheBay said:

There's no way to account for walk up business right? Either they show up in droves or not?

 

All we can look to when discussing projections and predictions is patterns but we know nothing until it happens.

[Nova]

1 minute ago, BeastByTheBay said:

There's no way to account for walk up business right? Either they show up in droves or not?

You can't ever know until possibly after the movie opens....and even it's not definite how much was walk-up. But based on the type of movie, it's audience and stuff we have a good idea of which films are typically walk-up oriented as opposed to presale driven. 

[HesAPooka]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

Presale #s update for WW thanks to our anonymous user. Wonder Woman Tuesday afternoon number is 5% higher than the number we had for Suicide Squad on Tuesday morning of release.

How much has online sales grown since then?

[Wonder89]

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