What a WONDERful Weekend | WW down only 16% on Sunday. 103M weekend. pg 226

[Biggestgeekever]

10 minutes ago, MrPink said:

Yes

*The scene in theaters across America on this day*

Edited June 2, 2017 by Biggestgeekever

[redfirebird2008]

3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

 If it gets to about 107, which I think is a very reasonable range, that'd put it above any of the huge Burton Batmans adjusted. That shows very impressive appeal for this character.

 

Ehhh...I would not compare opening weekends from back then to now even with ticket price inflation. Industry is completely different. Way bigger theater counts, way bigger screen counts, way easier to meet demand now than back then. Batman Returns set the weekend record and had pretty poor legs/WOM, yet it had a 3.4 multiplier which goes to show how much different the industry is now. It's even tricky to compare today's films with the first Spider-Man. Screen counts have gone up drastically since then.

[thelich343]

12 minutes ago, DamienRoc said:

Some notable things that got cheers at my showing:

 

WW's first appearance in costume.

All the big action beats. And most of the minor ones.

The trailer for Dunkirk.

The trailer for BladeRunner 2049

The trailer for Justice League

 

Anecdotally, not only were there cheers for JL, but several of the women in the audience vocally praised Jason Momoa. And maybe some men, too.

 

 

Women are still good.

[movieboner]

Will the NBA Finals game 2 on Sunday affect WW's OW?

[MikeQ]

1 hour ago, Alli said:

It has a 50/50 male/female ratio.  Can we really call WW "female driven"?

 

I wouldn't call it a "female driven" film myself either; however, relative to other comic book films, I would say this is evidence that the composition of the audience for this film is clearly leaning more female than usual for a comic book film. Indeed, I think it's pretty unheard of for a film like this to not skew male on opening.

 

In doing some simple googling to find reported gender breakdowns for other comic book films either for preview night, opening night or at some point during opening weekend, it looks like these films always skewed male:

 

Doctor Strange - 60% men, 40% women (opening night)

http://deadline.com/2016/11/doctor-strange-trolls-hacksaw-ridge-weekend-box-office-1201848529/

 

Avengers: Age Of Ultron - 60% men, 40% women (previews)

http://deadline.com/2015/05/avengers-age-of-ultron-thursday-box-office-1201419080/

 

Captain American: Civil War - 66% male, 34% female (reported Sunday AM of opening weekend)

http://deadline.com/2016/05/captain-america-civil-war-opening-weekend-box-office-summer-records-1201750394/

 

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 58% male (reported Saturday AM, so presumably percentage for previews/opening night)

http://deadline.com/2017/05/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-box-office-opening-summer-season-kickoff-1202084714/

 

Ant-Man - 60% male (Friday PM update)

http://deadline.com/2015/07/ant-man-trainwreck-amy-schumer-box-office-1201478786/

 

 

Research also suggests that the gender composition of audiences for blockbuster films becomes less male over time, or in other words that the female share of the audience increases over time (this occurs over mere days and the opening week of the film):

 

http://variety.com/2016/data/news/data-dive-how-audience-demographics-shift-for-blockbusters-over-theatrical-runs-1201732845/

 

Peace,

Mike

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

Just now, movieboner said:

Will the NBA Finals game 2 on Sunday affect WW's OW?

Not as much as last night, since Sunday evening shows aren't that big anyways.

[JohnnyGossamer]

14 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Oh yea, Deadpool! That was a thing that somehow happened. If it gets to about 107, which I think is a very reasonable range, that'd put it ahead of the first Guardians, Dr. Strange, Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, very close to Man of Steel, above Batman Begins, above any of the huge Burton Batmans adjusted. That shows very impressive appeal for this character. That said, all of those films listed are topped by Deadpool and Suicide Squad, so maybe built-in appeal has nothing to do with it.

Be even cooler if she wasn't a running backdrop to revealing Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman in BvS and pivotal in the climatic battle v. Doomsday but the shared universe of modern superhero stuff has destroyed that for pretty much every solo debut. But, yeah, that'll be great for WW. If you're using inflation of the Burton Bats might as well use it for Iron Man and MoS as well. Likely behind those unless it really breaks out this weekend. And both of those were the beginning not just for the character but for the shared universe of each series. Iron Man is especially ridiculous given before the movie I'd say Wonder Woman and especially Superman had much, much more brand awareness. It inflates to $125.7M OW DOM. MoS inflates to $123M OW DOM.

Edited June 2, 2017 by JohnnyGossamer

[kitik]

hey guys

You'll never guess what movie won over in the Most Anticipated thread this week.

Head on over and be the first to vote in next week's round of votes.

Deadpool 2 is now officially open for votes. Ryan Reynolds will probably let you cop a feel if you vote for him.

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/667-box-office-theorys-most-anticipated-films/?page=305

 

 

[Iron Raf]

7 minutes ago, MikeQ said:

 

I wouldn't call it a "female driven" film myself either; however, relative to other comic book films, I would say this is evidence that the composition of the audience for this film is clearly leaning more female than usual for a comic book film. Indeed, I think it's pretty unheard of for a film like this to not skew male on opening.

 

In doing some simple googling to find reported gender breakdowns for other comic book films either for preview night, opening night or at some point during opening weekend, it looks like these films always skewed male:

 

Doctor Strange - 60% men, 40% women (opening night)

http://deadline.com/2016/11/doctor-strange-trolls-hacksaw-ridge-weekend-box-office-1201848529/

 

Avengers: Age Of Ultron - 60% men, 40% women (previews)

http://deadline.com/2015/05/avengers-age-of-ultron-thursday-box-office-1201419080/

 

Captain American: Civil War - 66% male, 34% female (reported Sunday AM of opening weekend)

http://deadline.com/2016/05/captain-america-civil-war-opening-weekend-box-office-summer-records-1201750394/

 

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 58% male (reported Saturday AM, so presumably percentage for previews/opening night)

http://deadline.com/2017/05/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-box-office-opening-summer-season-kickoff-1202084714/

 

Ant-Man - 60% male (Friday PM update)

http://deadline.com/2015/07/ant-man-trainwreck-amy-schumer-box-office-1201478786/

 

 

Research also suggests that the gender composition of audiences for blockbuster films becomes less male over time, or in other words that the female share of the audience increases over time (this occurs over mere days and the opening week of the film):

 

http://variety.com/2016/data/news/data-dive-how-audience-demographics-shift-for-blockbusters-over-theatrical-runs-1201732845/

 

Peace,

Mike

 

Is anyone accounting for gay men ? 

Literally 99% of fan pictures I see on twitter from opening night (re-tweeted by comic book accounts, ETC) are from gay men. Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone, but yeah this 50/50 ratio or w/e is out there wouldn't be exactly accurate of half those men are gay. 

Edited June 2, 2017 by Iron Raf

[Cmasterclay]

2 minutes ago, Iron Raf said:

 

Is anyone accounting for gay men ? 

Literally 99% of fan pictures I see on twitter from opening night (re-tweeted by comic book accounts, ETC) are from gay men. Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone, but yeah this 50/50 ratio or w/e is out there wouldn't be exactly accurate of half those men are gay. 

Yes, because everyone knows that gay men don't count as men, apparently.

[WrathOfHan]

3 minutes ago, Iron Raf said:

 

Is anyone accounting for gay men ? 

Literally 99% of fan pictures I see on twitter from opening night (re-tweeted by comic book accounts, ETC) are from gay men. Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone, but yeah this 50/50 ratio or w/e is out there wouldn't be exactly accurate of half those men are gay. 

[Iron Raf]

Just now, Cmasterclay said:

Yes, because everyone knows that gay men don't count as men, apparently.

 

You're clearly missing the point but sure, attack me if you wish. 

[Brainiac5]

If Wonder Woman does 106 it will translate into 20% less than SS. That means the "80% of SS tracking " would be accurate.

 

[Cmasterclay]

Just now, Iron Raf said:

 

You're clearly missing the point but sure, attack me if you wish. 

You have zero evidence that gay men aren't a large part of the audience for normal superhero movies, and only tiny spurious evidence you saw on Twitter that this movie is proving to be some outlier sensation with gay men. Kinda just seemed like a way to say that gay men are more like women than men, tbh. 

[WrathOfHan]

Did John Wick have a 70/30 split because of straight men? How bigger would the divide have been if it had "gay appeal"?

[Ethan Hunt]

WTF am I reading?

[Cochofles]

26 minutes ago, DamienRoc said:

Some notable things that got cheers at my showing:

 

WW's first appearance in costume.

All the big action beats. And most of the minor ones.

The trailer for Dunkirk.

The trailer for BladeRunner 2049

The trailer for Justice League

 

Anecdotally, not only were there cheers for JL, but several of the women in the audience vocally praised Jason Momoa. And maybe some men, too.

 

 At my theatre, there were cheers for the No Man's Land scene (which I feel is instantly iconic---got applause!) and the final battle. Oddly enough (actually, it was not odd at all), my audience cheered when WW said "Shall we?" in the JL trailer.

[MikeQ]

Last summer, I started keeping track of the RT scores of the wide-release summer films (May-August) for fun. Half of the 42 wide-release films in my list last year were "Rotten" on RT (with a lot of high-profile stinkers), with only 10 films scoring 80+% for its Tomatometer. Kubo and the Two Strings was the highest rated wide-release last summer with a 97% and 8.4 average rating on RT.

 

I thought I'd do so again this summer, so here it is so far:

 

2017 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August)

1. Wonder Woman — 93% —  7.6 rating
2. Captain Underpants — 82% — 6.6 rating
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 81% — 7.1 rating
4. Alien: Covenant — 71% — 6.4 rating
5. The Dinner — 51% — 5.6 rating
6. Everything, Everything — 46% — 5.4 rating
7. Snatched — 36% — 5.2 rating
8. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — 30% — 4.7 rating
9. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword — 28% — 4.6 rating
10. Baywatch — 20% — 4.0 rating
11. Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul — 18% — 4.2 rating

Peace,

Mike

[Biggestgeekever]

1 minute ago, Iron Raf said:

You're clearly missing the point but sure, attack me if you wish. 

So explain why a 50/50 female male ratio "wouldn't be exactly accurate" in this case? Should gay men be considered in the female column, by your estimation?

[Iron Raf]

Just now, Cmasterclay said:

You have zero evidence that gay men aren't a large part of the audience for normal superhero movies, and only tiny spurious evidence you saw on Twitter that this movie is proving to be some outlier sensation with gay men. Kinda just seemed like a way to say that gay men are more like women than men, tbh. 

 

Again, don't mean to offend anyone.

 

I'm sure gay men show up to any movie. That wasn't the point. And the evidence isn't small. I follow several accounts on Twitter (such as Grace Randolph), who's been re-tweeting pictures from opening night and literally they're all women or gay men and I've never seen that for a CB movie or any movie in the past. Take that how you want but yes I do think there's a large part of the gay community that is showing up to this movie that likely would not show up to a Logan or Deadpool.