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Weekend Actuals (Page 150): Apes 56.3M | SMH 44.2M | DM3 19.4M | Baby 8.7M | Big Dick 7.5M | WW 6.8M | Wish Upon 5.5M | Tomatoes losing their power

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If SMH follows First Avenger (which also dropped 60% on second weekend in July) it still gets to about 310. Best case scenario is it develops Ant-Man-esque late legs in August and gets to SM3 after all. 

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5 hours ago, TheMovieman said:

 

You can't let your emotions guide you to how a movie will do. Could it have good legs? Sure. Will it? No idea, technically SMH should've had a <60% fall this past weekend based on all the "love" it received.

 

If it has a similar multiplier to Dawn, it'll get to $162M dom.

 

Yes you're right. 

Although Spider-Man coined nearly $120 million straight out of the gate. Apes won't fall that much as there's too big an audience that saw Dawn that hasn't seen it yet.

I just don't get why they didn't come out to the tune of at least $70 million this time out. 

It's frustrating. Point well made though.

 

This has been one of the more baffling openings of the summer for me, considering the reviews. 4,000 plus theaters and 3D, off the back of a tremendous previous chapter that did great. I thought this was a slam dunk to do $200 million+ domestically 

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Just now, Cochofles said:

According to Mojo, SM:H's second-weekend drop is worse than TASM (which dropped in the 40s) and in the same 60-ish range as TASM2 and SM3. :sadben:

 

Homecoming same level quality wise as TASM 2 and SM3. Time to reboot again. :qotd:

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2 minutes ago, Cochofles said:

According to Mojo, SM:H's second-weekend drop is worse than TASM (which dropped in the 40s) and in the same 60-ish range as TASM2 and SM3. :sadben:

 

to be fair, the ASM was a tuesday opener which burn off large portion of its demand from tuesday-thrusday, meaning friday-sunday was lower than supposed making the 2nd weekend drop looked awesome.....

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I will not be reevaluating word-of-mouth because my assumption will be that the word of mouth isn't anywhere near as good as it is with the critics. It's as simple as that to me. The critics gave Alien Covenant passable grades while the audience obviously hated it so it's not like opinions can't diverge from one another.

 

No I'm not trying to be Doom and Gloom about Spider-Man despite people thinking that I'm sure, we still have to see what the 3rd, 4th and 5th weekend are. I don't think the drop is disastrous but I do not count it as a good or even okay drop. I would be more accepting of the drop if the movie opened with 150+ million but it didn't so I'm not.

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13 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

Crazy,  everywhere I read said that Spider-Man Homecoming needed to make a billion to break even too.  What crazy times we live in. :redcapes:

 

 

Where did you read that. I know a few on this forum thinking that it will do atleast 900M+ and over 1B etc...

I for one was one of them. thinking that it atleast will do $600M+ OS. Although I haven't seen anywhere anyone said that it needs that much to make a profit or break even. If that's true than that's absurd.

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2 minutes ago, Subzero said:

 

Where did you read that. I know a few on this forum thinking that it will do atleast 900M+ and over 1B etc...

I for one was one of them. thinking that it atleast will do $600M+ OS. Although I haven't seen anywhere anyone said that it needs that much to make a profit or break even. If that's true than that's absurd.

 

I didn't read it anywhere I was joking. The general idea around here from some is that if a huge CBM doesn't make X-number then it's going to be very bad for the studio but the number is always insane. "Oh, this needed to make a billion!"   No,  they don't need to make that much and much of the budget speculations are just that...  speculation. 

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Did we discuss Sunday projections? I have a feeling Apes and Homecoming will come in under estimates. Don't think they will drop just 20%, especially with the huge audience expected for GOT

 

 
% +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day
1 1 War for the Planet of the Apes Fox $15,175,000 -21% - 4,022 $3,773 $56,500,000 3
2 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $14,000,000 -20% -52% 4,348 $3,220 $208,270,314 10
3 3 Despicable Me 3 Uni. $5,377,830 -27% -42% 4,155 $1,294 $187,989,990 17
4 4 Baby Driver TriS $2,605,000 -26% -33% 3,043 $856 $73,151,857 19
5 6 Wonder Woman WB $2,090,000 -25% -25% 2,744 $762 $380,686,078 45
6 5 The Big Sick LGF $2,023,000 -35% +109% 2,597 $779 $16,036,824 24
7 7 Wish Upon BG $1,414,661 -25% - 2,250 $629 $5,586,748 3
8 8 Cars 3 BV $1,032,000 -14% -30% 2,049 $504 $140,031,500 31
9 9 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $831,000 -28% -56% 2,323 $358 $124,888,619 26
10 10 The House WB (NL) $530,000 -25% -60% 1,633 $325 $23,129,558 17
11 11 47 Meters Down ENTMP $370,000 -23% -51% 1,032 $359 $41,207,107 31
12 12 The Beguiled (2017) Focus $266,425 -30% -52% 726 $367 $9,407,214 24
- - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $146,000 -33% -44% 399 $366 $386,574,390 73
- - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales BV $144,000 -29% -58% 448 $321 $170,044,886 52
- - The Hero Orch. $113,347 -17% -33% 315 $360 $3,401,307 38
- - Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie Fox $103,000 -23% +10% 277 $372 $71,171,375 45
- - The Mummy (2017) Uni. $95,505 -30% -72% 401 $238 $78,951,400 38
- - All Eyez on Me LG/S $43,200 -30% -76% 195 $222 $44,728,273 31
- - A Ghost Story A24 $43,060 -20% +58% 20 $2,153 $288,751 10
- - The Boss Baby Fox $41,000 -27% -23% 170 $241 $174,206,472 108
- - Baywatch Par. $34,000 -31% -37% 156 $218 $57,835,971 53
- - The Exception A24 $22,704
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1 minute ago, Johnny Tran said:

 

I didn't read it anywhere I was joking. The general idea around here from some is that if a huge CBM doesn't make X-number then it's going to be very bad for the studio but the number is always insane. "Oh, this needed to make a billion!"   No,  they don't need to make that much and much of the budget speculations are just that...  speculation. 

 

LOL ok, yeah wasn't sure , thought you were serious.

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Again, I think critic has done their part in shaping SMH and Apes buzz, don't forget SMH come in above tracking during its opening, Apes through is disappointment, but at least in-line with tracking number......

 

I'm still thinking SMH's WOM was good, just people don't care to spread them as novelty is not longer there since this is the 3rd starter of the spiderman, making people just couldn't care less about it......

 

how good was the WOM and how people get interested in it is two different things, oftenly they worked together and highly correlated, but in some case like SMH, fatigue factor seems to be huge , resulting the goodness of WOM couldn't take much effect to fight against it....

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19 minutes ago, Rman823 said:

Well we already have the animated Miles movie next year. Still curious how it'll do. 

I think it can reach $200M domestic due to the concept and how great Lord/Miller are. I mean if Black Panther does $300M+, and Wrinkle does $200M+, SMTAM can make some bank too.

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11 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Did we discuss Sunday projections? I have a feeling Apes and Homecoming will come in under estimates. Don't think they will drop just 20%, especially with the huge audience expected for GOT

 

 
% +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day
1 1 War for the Planet of the Apes Fox $15,175,000 -21% - 4,022 $3,773 $56,500,000 3
2 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $14,000,000 -20% -52% 4,348 $3,220 $208,270,314 10
3 3 Despicable Me 3 Uni. $5,377,830 -27% -42% 4,155 $1,294 $187,989,990 17
4 4 Baby Driver TriS $2,605,000 -26% -33% 3,043 $856 $73,151,857 19
5 6 Wonder Woman WB $2,090,000 -25% -25% 2,744 $762 $380,686,078 45
6 5 The Big Sick LGF $2,023,000 -35% +109% 2,597 $779 $16,036,824 24
7 7 Wish Upon BG $1,414,661 -25% - 2,250 $629 $5,586,748 3
8 8 Cars 3 BV $1,032,000 -14% -30% 2,049 $504 $140,031,500 31
9 9 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $831,000 -28% -56% 2,323 $358 $124,888,619 26
10 10 The House WB (NL) $530,000 -25% -60% 1,633 $325 $23,129,558 17
11 11 47 Meters Down ENTMP $370,000 -23% -51% 1,032 $359 $41,207,107 31
12 12 The Beguiled (2017) Focus $266,425 -30% -52% 726 $367 $9,407,214 24
- - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $146,000 -33% -44% 399 $366 $386,574,390 73
- - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales BV $144,000 -29% -58% 448 $321 $170,044,886 52
- - The Hero Orch. $113,347 -17% -33% 315 $360 $3,401,307 38
- - Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie Fox $103,000 -23% +10% 277 $372 $71,171,375 45
- - The Mummy (2017) Uni. $95,505 -30% -72% 401 $238 $78,951,400 38
- - All Eyez on Me LG/S $43,200 -30% -76% 195 $222 $44,728,273 31
- - A Ghost Story A24 $43,060 -20% +58% 20 $2,153 $288,751 10
- - The Boss Baby Fox $41,000 -27% -23% 170 $241 $174,206,472 108
- - Baywatch Par. $34,000 -31% -37% 156 $218 $57,835,971 53
- - The Exception A24 $22,704

Seriously. The impact of GOT shouldn't be underestimated.

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Just noticed this, Wonder Woman just got ahead of Hunger Games at the same point in time. THG would enter summer weekdays in 3-4 weeks' time which is when this comp will become really interesting

 

THG:

May 4–6  3  $5,587,661  -48.3%  2,794  -778  $2,000   $380,614,659

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Wonder Woman:

Jul 14–16  6  $6,885,000
(Estimate)
  -29.9%   2,744   -347   $2,509   $380,686,078
(Estimate)
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