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5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Using the double the budget rule, this is how much they lost on those films:

 

Live by Night: 75M (officially reported by Variety) http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ben-affleck-live-by-night-flop-1201971025/

The House: 46.7M

CHiPs: 23.3M

Unforgettable: 10.2M

Fist Fight: 8.9M

Just as an example, Disney's had way more high profile flops and no one's rly cared about that considering Guardians+BATB and SW8 still yet to come. The comedies and dramas misfiring isn't rly a big deal.

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3 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Just as an example, Disney's had way more high profile flops and no one's rly cared about that considering Guardians+BATB and SW8 still yet to come. The comedies and dramas misfiring isn't rly a big deal.

 

There's a reason the big movies are called tentpoles, they prop up the rest of the slate. And if something smaller, like Annabelle 2, breaks out, that is a bonus for the studios.

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4 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Just as an example, Disney's had way more high profile flops and no one's rly cared about that considering Guardians+BATB and SW8 still yet to come. The comedies and dramas misfiring isn't rly a big deal.

Cars 3 in terms of box office has kind of flopped since the budget was so high but the profits from BATB alone will more than cover it as well as the Cars merch sales. 

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Paramount has had a pretty horrid 2017 tbh, no movie which can be called an outright winner, even with TF5 making 600M WW. Baywatch was the big franchise hope for them which didn't pan out.

 

17 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $130,168,683 4,132 $44,680,073 4,069 6/21 8/24
30 Baywatch Par. $58,060,186 3,647 $18,503,871 3,647 5/25 7/27
40 xXx: The Return of Xander Cage Par. $44,898,413 3,651 $20,130,142 3,651 1/20 3/16
43 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $40,563,557 3,440 $18,676,033 3,440 3/31 5/25
47 Monster Trucks Par. $33,370,166 3,119 $10,950,705 3,119 1/13 3/16
53 Rings Par. $27,793,018 2,931 $13,002,632 2,931 2/3 3/23
103 An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power Par. $3,496,795 556 $124,823 4 7/28 9/7
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1 minute ago, grim22 said:

Paramount has had a pretty horrid 2017 tbh, no movie which can be called an outright winner, even with TF5 making 600M WW. Baywatch was the big franchise hope for them which didn't pan out.

 

17 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $130,168,683 4,132 $44,680,073 4,069 6/21 8/24
30 Baywatch Par. $58,060,186 3,647 $18,503,871 3,647 5/25 7/27
40 xXx: The Return of Xander Cage Par. $44,898,413 3,651 $20,130,142 3,651 1/20 3/16
43 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $40,563,557 3,440 $18,676,033 3,440 3/31 5/25
47 Monster Trucks Par. $33,370,166 3,119 $10,950,705 3,119 1/13 3/16
53 Rings Par. $27,793,018 2,931 $13,002,632 2,931 2/3 3/23
103 An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power Par. $3,496,795 556 $124,823 4 7/28 9/7

 

The only one that wasn't really a disappointment was xXx. What a world.

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1 minute ago, grim22 said:

Paramount has had a pretty horrid 2017 tbh, no movie which can be called an outright winner, even with TF5 making 600M WW. Baywatch was the big franchise hope for them which didn't pan out.

 

17 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $130,168,683 4,132 $44,680,073 4,069 6/21 8/24
30 Baywatch Par. $58,060,186 3,647 $18,503,871 3,647 5/25 7/27
40 xXx: The Return of Xander Cage Par. $44,898,413 3,651 $20,130,142 3,651 1/20 3/16
43 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $40,563,557 3,440 $18,676,033 3,440 3/31 5/25
47 Monster Trucks Par. $33,370,166 3,119 $10,950,705 3,119 1/13 3/16
53 Rings Par. $27,793,018 2,931 $13,002,632 2,931 2/3 3/23
103 An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power Par. $3,496,795 556 $124,823 4 7/28 9/7

They should try making much better movies.

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It tripled matinee numbers Split did at my theatre. However, considering it did about 2.6x OD of Split, its kinda expected. But 3x still means it's pacing ahead of Split's trajectory for matinees.

 

I definitely think it can do 38-41M today.

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Just now, aabattery said:

 

The only one that wasn't really a disappointment was xXx. What a world.

 

Rightfully so because it's probably their best movie on there (aside from An Inconvenient Sequel but that's pretty much an indie so let's ignore it for the sake of calling xXx: Return of Xander Cage Paramount's best movie of 2017)

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5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Paramount has had a pretty horrid 2017 tbh, no movie which can be called an outright winner, even with TF5 making 600M WW. Baywatch was the big franchise hope for them which didn't pan out.

 

17 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $130,168,683 4,132 $44,680,073 4,069 6/21 8/24
30 Baywatch Par. $58,060,186 3,647 $18,503,871 3,647 5/25 7/27
40 xXx: The Return of Xander Cage Par. $44,898,413 3,651 $20,130,142 3,651 1/20 3/16
43 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $40,563,557 3,440 $18,676,033 3,440 3/31 5/25
47 Monster Trucks Par. $33,370,166 3,119 $10,950,705 3,119 1/13 3/16
53 Rings Par. $27,793,018 2,931 $13,002,632 2,931 2/3 3/23
103 An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power Par. $3,496,795 556 $124,823 4 7/28 9/7

Paramount's 2017 has been terrible. Basically everything's flopped and even TF5 is more a disappointment then a success.

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8 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Cars 3 in terms of box office has kind of flopped since the budget was so high but the profits from BATB alone will more than cover it as well as the Cars merch sales. 

never thought cars 3 ww would be below doms of io, slop and just ahead of zootopia dom. very surprising. though merchandising will be strong.

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5 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Paramount has had a pretty horrid 2017 tbh, no movie which can be called an outright winner, even with TF5 making 600M WW. Baywatch was the big franchise hope for them which didn't pan out.

 

17 Transformers: The Last Knight Par. $130,168,683 4,132 $44,680,073 4,069 6/21 8/24
30 Baywatch Par. $58,060,186 3,647 $18,503,871 3,647 5/25 7/27
40 xXx: The Return of Xander Cage Par. $44,898,413 3,651 $20,130,142 3,651 1/20 3/16
43 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $40,563,557 3,440 $18,676,033 3,440 3/31 5/25
47 Monster Trucks Par. $33,370,166 3,119 $10,950,705 3,119 1/13 3/16
53 Rings Par. $27,793,018 2,931 $13,002,632 2,931 2/3 3/23
103 An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power Par. $3,496,795 556 $124,823 4 7/28 9/7

Paramount has had no film crack $150m and there's nothing on the horizon that will either. mother! will be profitable but it's probably going to $50-60m at best. Daddy's Home 2 probably will do $100-120m domestic but no more and Downsizing I think at best it'll crack $100m but it really depends on how audiences receive it as Alexander Payne isn't exactly blockbuster material. 

 

Apart from Spider-Man, Sony hasn't had a great year either although Jumanji should be successful and hopefully Blade Runner which they have OS distribution

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More Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street wouldn't be too bad with controlled budgets.

 

I say go big or go home and go for a big-budget Attack On Titan movie. Yeah, the anime has waned in popularity, but you got kids training to face terrifying evil, fantasy settings and politics, and creepy giant monsters that eat people: it's like you jammed Harry Potter, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, and It all into one. The US public is waiting for this movie...

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The Last Knight underperformed but it'll probably still profit.  Same with Baywatch which should likely have a healthy run on the ancillary market.  xXx did well enough in China for it to be saved from being a flop.  Rings made more than 3x its budget overseas so that's an easy profit for them.  An Inconvenient Sequel has made 4x its budget worldwide.  Really their only flops/money-losers are Ghost in the Shell (which was co-funded by Dreamworks) and Monster Trucks (which they took a write off on).

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2 minutes ago, a2knet said:

never thought cars 3 ww would be below doms of io, slop and just ahead of zootopia dom. very surprising. though merchandising will be strong.

The blessing in disguise for Pixar is that they don't have to make another Cars movie, it'll be DTV spin-offs or TV specials

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