5-Day Weekend Thread | Saturday #s (Asgard p.109) - Coco 17.7, Justice League 15.7, Wonder 8.3, Thor: Ragnarok 6.4, Daddy's Home 2 5.3

[TalismanRing]

5 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

unlikely....I don't know what happened, but the momentum just doesn't live up to its initial thought, 19% drop is great ,but not great enough to allow it to top $150m, GO dropped was just 15% in this march without holiday push. Same goes to Coco, doing great but not better given how full force it was in initially. 

Coco appealed to a lot of the same family audience came out with better reviews with the same A+ rating.    That doesn't mean they both can have long excellent legs over the holiday season.

[DAR]

50 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

JL took 10 days to reach the OW numbers of BVS, that one marketed as a dark and serious movie. But critics said DC movies should be fun and colorful.

 

 

WB should sue.

Again you know JL is paying for the sins of .  Nevermind you're not getting it

[Orestes]

1 minute ago, TalismanRing said:

 And Shazam? $300m why? 

Don't underestimate the Chuck fanbase.

[meriodejaneiro]

7 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Under $200M DOM without a nice amount WW (over and above Mexico) isn't gonna make this a "commercial success" b/c I doubt it has the toy/merchandise breakout of other Pixar movies...I mean, it is a rumored $225M Production budget, only $75M less than JL's supposed production budget...it needs big numbers, although not as big as JL...

DC fanboys anger due to JL's failure being directed against Coco promising box office long run ... should have seen that coming.

 

[YM!]

15 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Under $200M DOM without a nice amount WW (over and above Mexico) isn't gonna make this a "commercial success" b/c I doubt it has the toy/merchandise breakout of other Pixar movies...I mean, it is a rumored $225M Production budget, only $75M less than JL's supposed production budget...it needs big numbers, although not as big as JL...

It’s likely not going under $200M. Looking at numbers, it’ll probably end around $600M-$700M WW with $100M from China.

[TwoMisfits]

2 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:

DC fanboys anger due to JL's failure being directed against Coco promising box office long run ... should have seen that coming.

 

Total non-sequitor...it's a fact that Coco needs a pretty decent BO run (thanks to its budget)...Its start may or may not get it there, since it's not a home run start...it's more like a single or double (vs JL's strike-out)...

Edited November 26, 2017 by TwoMisfits

[FunkMiller]

1 minute ago, meriodejaneiro said:

DCEU/Snyder fanboys anger due to JL's failure being directed against Coco promising box office long run ... should have seen that coming.

 

Sigh.

[Premium George]

1 minute ago, meriodejaneiro said:

DC fanboys anger due to JL's failure being directed against Coco promising box office long run ... should have seen that coming.

 

But twomisfits is not a dc fanboy.

[YM!]

4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

I can't buy into these Aquaman over $300m and $800m WW predictions.  All we have for it so far is Momoa as AM who didn't exactly set the world on fire in JL.  At least let me see a trailer and some marketing that delivers.  And Shazam? $300m why? 

If the visuals are top notch and god Wan delivers us a great movie it’ll be big. Outside of ASMM and MPR, it’s the only true hit of the holidays. We’ve seen how DCEU movies perform when the movie is good.

 

I am sensing Shazam will be even more kid friendly than Homecoming there’s a lot of potential there. If Superman is involved I can easily see $300M.

[YM!]

3 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:

DC fanboys anger due to JL's failure being directed against Coco promising box office long run ... should have seen that coming.

 

TwoMisfits isn’t a fanboy.

[Carlangonz]

4 minutes ago, Orestes said:

Don't underestimate the Chuck fanbase.

My favorite guilty pleasure, really fun to watch.

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Total non-sequitor...it's a fact that Coco needs a pretty decent BO run (thanks to its budget)...Its start may or may not get it there, since it's not a home run start...it's more like a single or double (vs JL's strike-out)...

It’s Disney’s fourth biggest Thanksgiving 5 Day and fourth biggest overall.

[TalismanRing]

21 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Under $200M DOM without a nice amount WW (over and above Mexico) isn't gonna make this a "commercial success" b/c I doubt it has the toy/merchandise breakout of other Pixar movies...I mean, it is a rumored $225M Production budget, only $75M less than JL's supposed production budget...it needs big numbers, although not as big as JL...

$225m was one out sized high end.  Kind of like that $350m pssible budget I saw for JL.

 

It was made in the same article right after the statement it was probably the usual $175m-200m PIXAR budget.

 

Right now it's looking to make more than JL WW - and might wind up doing more domestically

 

Is there going to be a moment when you admit you were very wrong about Coco?  Or is this spin going to keep on going when it doesn't make as much as Frozen?

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2017 by TalismanRing

[Random2]

34 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

JL slightly above BvS? Deep Wang was right!

@grim22

 

[Walt Disney]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

If the visuals are top notch and god Wan delivers us a great movie it’ll be big. Outside of ASMM and MPR, it’s the only true hit of the holidays. We’ve seen how DCEU movies perform when the movie is good.

 

I am sensing Shazam will be even more kid friendly than Homecoming there’s a lot of potential there. If Superman is involved I can easily see $300M.

With inflation, $300M is a much easier domestic total to reach. However, there's nothing to really suggest Aquaman or Shazam reaches that total.

[TwoMisfits]

And if you look at the Casino bets, I said Coco's start would be really close to $70M, but I thought a touch under...it's right where I thought its opening would take it...and that opening isn't "OMG, this is so amazing" nor is it "OMG this is sure to crash and burn"...it's okay and its legs will tell the tale...I wouldn't get ahead of anything on this movie yet for a lot of reasons, but mainly...

 

1. Star Wars is coming...

2. Tons of openers at Xmas are coming...

3. It is not catching with little kids or being pushed by them - harder to sell an animated movie long term whose desire to see has to come from the parents, not the kids...

4. That Coco short - take it away and princess fans will feel burned...keep it and keep having adults feel burned...but it's a net problem right now...

 

Moana had Rogue One, not the next edition in the trilogy with Leia's last run...that more competition all by itself, so you can't presume a Moana run (and that movie also had a younger reach)...

[Heat Vision]

Aquaman will be DC's biggest hit. Shazam will surprise.

[TalismanRing]

5 minutes ago, YourMother said:

If the visuals are top notch and god Wan delivers us a great movie it’ll be big. Outside of ASMM and MPR, it’s the only true hit of the holidays. We’ve seen how DCEU movies perform when the movie is good.

 

I am sensing Shazam will be even more kid friendly than Homecoming there’s a lot of potential there. If Superman is involved I can easily see $300M.

movies?  movie

 

And that had a little something to do with it being

 

1) Wonder Woman

2) The first big well reviewed female lead SH film

 

 

 

 

[Sam]

I think Aquaman will pull respectable number. It has a pretty good release date. It also has Wan as director, which makes me obligated to say that it’ll be a good movie too.

 

No idea what a Shazam is. 

[Random2]

2 minutes ago, Walt Disney said:

With inflation, $300M is a much easier domestic total to reach. However, there's nothing to really suggest Aquaman or Shazam reaches that total.

There is, Aquaman is an entirely new aspect of a comic book movie that we've never seen before, under water?

 

It also benefits from Christmas and the fact that he's a fan favourite in JL (which, no one saw).