Academy Awards adding a "Best Popular Film" category. Good or bad idea? Academy walks it back, won't be presented this year

[dxmatrixdt]

that is one less award for the Black Panther cast.  sounds like they can take a vacation in February 2019 or whenever this award will be hosted.

[Ryan Reynolds]

49 minutes ago, dX airdry zid said:

that is one less award for the Black Panther cast.  sounds like they can take a vacation in February 2019 or whenever this award will be hosted.

lol, BP is not even top 10 of year, we don't know on what merits this award will be judged, will scores be weighted or raw vote?

[aabattery]

I was not aware that Best Picture nominees had to be part of Ryan Reynolds top ten of the year.

 

If that's the case, you've had some pretty wack top tens over the years. 

[Legion Again]

2 hours ago, Barnack said:

Those Oscar are better served for people that do not have a role that is rewarded by competitive Oscar unlike Kennedy or outside the Hollywood industry working in foreign language that can virtually never win like a Chan, Fellini (like 12 noms 0 win), Godard, etc....

 

But they also use it for the it is weird/circumstance and timing that made it so you never won like O'Toole, Sutherland, etc...

 

The numbers of movies that marked their era is just really high, with 8 nominations without a win and executive producer on some winners like Schindler List.

 

Schindler list

E.T.

Back to the Fuutre

Force Awaken

Color Purple

Munich

Rogers Rabbit

Jurassic Park

Twister

Arachnophobia

Indiana Jones

Empire of the Sun

A.I.

 

All time estimated domestic ticket list among producer:

 

Row	Person (Click to view)	Total Est. Tickets	# Movies / Average		#1 Picture	Est. Tickets
1	Kathleen Kennedy	1,490.0	61	24.4	E.T.	141.9
2	Steven Spielberg	1,487.8	71	21.0	E.T.	141.9
3	Frank Marshall	1,146.9	59	19.4	Raiders / Lost Ark	88.5
4	Kevin Feige	1,116.4	33	33.8	The Avengers	76.9
5	Stan Lee	959.6	34	28.2	The Avengers	76.9
6	Jerry Bruckheimer	904.4	44	20.6	Beverly Hills Cop	67.2
7	George Lucas	863.5	22	39.2	Star Wars	178.1
8	Arnon Milchan	860.0	118	7.3	Pretty Woman	42.2
9	Brian Grazer	790.9	66	12.0	The Grinch	48.1
10	Thomas Tull	734.1	39	18.8	Jurassic World	79.0
11	Scott Rudin	723.5	88	8.2	The Firm	38.2

Neat chart. What year will Feige take #1?

[dxmatrixdt]

48 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

lol, BP is not even top 10 of year, we don't know on what merits this award will be judged, will scores be weighted or raw vote?

I was thinking raw vote.  handwritten on parchment with an extra large Crayola crayon.

[KJsooner]

1 hour ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

lol, BP is not even top 10 of year, we don't know on what merits this award will be judged, will scores be weighted or raw vote?

Since when does the academy give a flying fyck what’s in your top ten? Your opinion means zilch when it comes to their nominees. Stop acting like your opinion accounts for anything at all.

[filmlover]

 

That statement could've been written in gibberish and it wouldn't have made any more or less sense (which is none) than it did.

[Morieris]

[grim22]

35 minutes ago, filmlover said:

 

That statement could've been written in gibberish and it wouldn't have made any more or less sense (which is none) than it did.

Turns out the real Best Popular Movie was the friends we made along the way.

[TalismanRing]

21 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Turns out the real Best Popular Movie was the friends we made along the way.

Finally, Justice for Efron's bomb - a small movie no one saw (except his grandparents) that was popular in another Academy Award winning alternate reality

 

 

 

[grim22]

They were honest to god discussing audience voting

 

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The Academy had not yet determined the criteria for the new award when it announced it—one idea under discussion, according to multiple board members, was that the award should be voted on by members of the public, to encourage more audience participation in the telecast. Another proposal on the table would have Academy members doing the voting, but would limit eligibility for the award to movies released in a certain number of theaters, or earning a certain amount at the box office.

 

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, grim22 said:

They were honest to god discussing audience voting

 

 

Dumb but not as dumb as making it just apply to any saturated wide release.  

 

 

[DeeCee]

Eurovision style.

 

The show goes for 7 hours and they cross to each country in the world for their votes.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Cap]

We were ROBBED of not getting a live vote.  

[grim22]

4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Dumb but not as dumb as making it just apply to any saturated wide release.  

 

 

 

This entire word salad is crazy

 

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Hudson explained that the idea behind a new category honoring more widely seen films was a pure one. “The impetus for this was, how do we celebrate achievement and excellence in a wider scope of movies than the Academy has been honoring over the past several years? It has slightly narrowed over the past years.” she said. “So how do we celebrate those movies, how do we widen the scope a little bit? And that principle we all believe in and the Board of Governors agrees that is unchanging, something everyone adheres to. So we’ll continue to refine it and study this award and any other improvements. We talked to a lot of our members. We had a lot of small focus groups and discussions with members prior to this direction that we announced, and we will continue to do that. In fact [Academy President] John Bailey and I are going on this member tour this fall in San Francisco, New York, London, everywhere.” Their plan is to get the pulse of the rank and file on this and other concerns.

 

From what I have heard directly from many of those members, using the word “popular” to describe the new category was a bad idea and just added to the problem. Hudson agrees that it wasn’t the best choice. “People misunderstood how we were using that phrase,” she old me. “We really meant films that audiences had wide access to. It’s always about excellence, but excellence and widely embraced films are not mutually exclusive. They forgot that the Academy members are choosing excellence. That is all they ever choose. It seemed to be more confusing than it was helpful.

 

[filmlover]

I imagine these meetings going like this:

 

[AndyK]

6 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Eurovision style.

 

The show goes for 7 hours and they cross to each country in the world for their votes.

 

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Ugh, no thanks, UK nul points, we know every body hates the Brits just because we are the humblest people on Earth.

[The Futurist]

12 hours ago, CoolioD1 said:

probably because she's been producing classics for near 40 years, has produced more than one Highest Grossing Movie of All Time and has 8 oscar nominations. something to do with those maybe?

She was the nice, obedient little soldier of the oppressive male patriarchy on set.

 

Until she started to read Feminism Litterature 3.0 when she started her Lucasfilm Gig.

Edited September 7, 2018 by The Futurist

[Lordmandeep]

Imo it shows the Academy Awards are in big trouble long term if they were exploring such desperate tactics.

 

 

[Lordmandeep]

11 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

lol, BP is not even top 10 of year, we don't know on what merits this award will be judged, will scores be weighted or raw vote?

 

 

The Academy nominates a lot of average movies with best Pictures, they can give an award to a well made comic book that touched the cultural zeitgeist.

 

If not they are irrelevant elitist snobs who can simply enjoy lower TV ratings.

Edited September 7, 2018 by Lordmandeep