91st Academy Awards - Discussion thread - RACISM IS OVER, THANKS GREEN BOOK

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, movieboner said:

It looks like a Star is Born is no longer the frontrunner for BP. I think The Favourite is the frontrunner now.

As much as I love The Favourite, I really don't see it. Missing DGA was somewhat of a blow to it. I think it's gonna end up being Roma since Cuaron is pretty much assured to take home Director, plus the fact it managed two acting noms (one of which was a big surprise).

[Avatree]

11 minutes ago, filmlover said:

61 on MC and 64% on RT is rather meh for a film that was expected to be a major Oscar player ever since the day it was casted all the same, even if it ended up being one anyway.

that's my point though. those are averages. the people who enjoyed it, really enjoyed it. that's all you need for something to do well, enough people to really like it and put it highly, will outweigh lots of people putting it very low. 

[RichWS]

Fun fact: Nominee Marc Shaiman and I attended the same high school (25 years apart). My guidance counselor told me that back in the day when I expressed my desire to be a BIG SCREENWRITER.

[ddddeeee]

7 minutes ago, RichWS said:

Fun fact: Nominee Marc Shaiman and I attended the same high school (25 years apart). My guidance counselor told me that back in the day when I expressed my desire to be a BIG SCREENWRITER.

I went to the same high school as Seamus McGarvey, and nowadays there are posters of all his movies in the entrance hall  - the biggest of which being Fifty Shades. Place is super Catholic and it always makes me cackle.

[DAJK]

54 minutes ago, Avatree said:

yeah that's what I was asking, whether you thought he is the best supporting performance or just whether you think his awards campaign should desrve it.

 

tepid reviews? What tepid reviews?

Polarising is not the same as tepid. That's the issue with rotten tomatoes, you look at 60% and you think average. When it's more like a love / hate thing. By the same logic, 2001: A Space Odyssey had a tepid reception, most people think its pretty mediocre/average..

I mean I'd still argue Carrell is the lead. Chalemet's presence is huge in the film, but his screen time seems limited compared to Michael Scott. 

[Avatree]

9 minutes ago, DAJK said:

I mean I'd still argue Carrell is the lead. Chalemet's presence is huge in the film, but his screen time seems limited compared to Michael Scott. 

They are both leads. Yes David Sheff gets more screen time and arguably the film is from his perspective. But I'd say they are both leading roles. Nic is not a "supporting character". anyway.

[MikeQ]

4 hours ago, AndyK said:

Is it normal for a film to get a BP nom without any nominations in any other major category?

 

Surely there must have been something that made it BP worthy?

 

Going back to 2009 (i.e. since category expansion) it has happened a couple other times:

 

- Selma (nominated for Best Picture with no other major nominations - it had only a single other nomination, in fact, for Best Original Song). 

- War Horse (nominated for Best Picture with no other major nominations)

 

Other films that came close:

- Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close received only one other nomination outside Picture, for Supporting Actor.

- The Post received a Best Actress nod for Meryl Streep and that is the only nomination it had outside Picture. Same for The Blind Side, with Sandra Bullock its only nomination outside Picture.

- Her, Inception and A Serious Man's only major nomination outside Picture was Original Screenplay (for A Serious Man it was literally its only other nomination). Similarly, District 9's only other major nomination was Adapted Screenplay.

- Best Picture nominees Dunkirk, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Tree of Life, and Avatar received Best Director nominations but no other major nominations.

 

Peace,

Mike

 

[MikeQ]

This was definitely a big year for Netflix on the film side - it will be interesting to see how it fares in the years ahead, in terms of critical acclaim and awards recognition for film. Netflix is also obviously big on the TV side. Last year it topped HBO for the first time for the most nominations at the Emmy's.

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscars-2019-netflix-now-competing-hollywood-studios-1177822

 

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The streamer scored 15 Academy Award nominations Tuesday. It was buoyed by Alfonso Cuaron's Roma, which led with 10 nods, and also picked up three nominations for the Coen Brothers' The Battle of Buster Scruggs and another two for short documentaries. Roma puts Netflix in the coveted best-picture category for the first time. And the 15 noms Netflix amassed this year equal the 15 nods total it has collected in previous years.

 

Peace,

Mike

[The Panda]

On 1/18/2019 at 9:54 AM, filmlover said:

Predicts 

NOMINEES:

 

Best Picture
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
The Favourite
Green Book
Roma
A Star Is Born
Vice

 

Best Actress
Yalitza Aparicio, Roma
Glenn Close, The Wife
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Lady Gaga, A Star Is Born
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

 

Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Amy Adams, Vice
Marina de Tavira, Roma
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone, The Favourite
Rachel Weisz, The Favourite

 

Best Actor
Christian Bale, Vice
Bradley Cooper, A Star Is Born
Willem Dafoe, At Eternity’s Gate
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Viggo Mortensen, Green Book

 

Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Adam Driver, BlacKkKlansman
Sam Elliott, A Star Is Born
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Sam Rockwell, Vice

 

Best Director
Spike Lee, BlacKkKlansman
Pawel Pawlikowski, Cold War
Yorgos Lanthimos, The Favourite
Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Adam McKay, Vice

 

Best Original Screenplay
The Favourite
First Reformed
Green Book
Roma
Vice

 

Best Adapted Screenplay
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 
BlacKkKlansman
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

 

Best Cinematography
Cold War
The Favourite
Never Look Away
Roma
A Star Is Born

 

Best Production Design
Black Panther
The Favourite
First Man
Mary Poppins Returns
Roma

 

Best Costume Design
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Black Panther
The Favourite
Mary Poppins Returns
Mary Queen of Scots

 

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Border
Mary Queen of Scots
Vice

 

Best Original Score
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
If Beale Street Could Talk
Isle of Dogs
Mary Poppins Returns

 

Best Original Song
“All the Stars,” Black Panther
“I’ll Fight,” RBG
“The Place Where Lost Things Go,” Mary Poppins Returns
“Shallow,” A Star Is Born
“When a Cowboy Trades His Spurs For Wings,” The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 

 

Best Film Editing
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
The Favourite
Green Book
Vice

 

Best Sound Editing
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
A Quiet Place
Roma

 

Best Sound Mixing
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
Roma
A Star Is Born

 

Best Visual Effects
Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
First Man
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story

 

Best Animated Feature Film
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

 

Best Foreign-Language Film
Capernaum
Cold War
Never Look Away
Roma
Shoplifters

 

Best Documentary Feature
Free Solo
Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Minding the Gap
Of Fathers and Sons
RBG

 

Best Documentary Short Subject
Black Sheep
End Game
Lifeboat
A Night at the Garden
Period. End of Sentence.

 

Best Animated Short Film
Animal Behaviour
Bao
Late Afternoon
One Small Step
Weekends

 

Best Live-Action Short Film
Detainment
Fauve
Marguerite
Mother
Skin

 

[Lordmandeep]

The Favourite was so overrated and I am a sucker for British Period Dramas. 

[SLAM!]

I've had a thought.

 

Never Look Away will probably have good box office when it comes to theaters this coming weekend. It was very smart of Sony Classics to position it for the weekend directly after the nomination announcement. People will see it because of the hype and spread word of mouth because of this.

 

I'm still not sure about Cold War because I'm sure Amazon will want to find a time to release the film onto its streaming service around the time of the Oscars, but for the time being, I'm sure that film will see a positive amount of interest thanks to the Oscars.

 

I'm personally very happy for the two films.

Edited January 22, 2019 by Slambros

[terrestrial]

testing if a copy per RT works (for the scores in relation to noms)

 

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/oscar-nominations-2019-full-list-nominations-91st-academy-awards/

 

BEST PICTURE

 

Black Panther
97%

 

BlacKkKlansman
95%

 

The Favourite
93%

 

Green Book
81%

 

Bohemian Rhapsody
62%

 

Roma
96%

 

A Star Is Born
90%

 

Vice
64%

 

DIRECTING

Pawel Pawlikowski

Cold War (Zimna wojna)
94%

plus see above, Roma, The Favourite, BlacKkKlansmen, Vice

[Rorschach]

My predicts:

 

Best Picture: Roma

Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron, Roma

Best Actor: Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody

Best Actress: Glenn Close, The Wife

Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali, Green Book

Best Supporting Actress: Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk

Best Original Screenplay: The Favourite

Best Adapted Screenplay: BlacKkKlansman

Best Animated Feature: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Best Documentary Feature: Minding the Gap

Best Foreign Language Film: Roma

Best Original Score: Nicholas Brittell, If Beale Street Could Talk

Best Original Song: "Shallow" from A Star is Born

Best Sound Editing: Roma

Best Sound Mixing: A Star is Born

Best Production Design: Black Panther

Best Cinematography: Roma

Best Make-up and Hairstyling: Vice

Best Costume Design: Black Panther

Best Film Editing: BlacKkKlansman

Best Visual Effects: Avengers: Infinity War

 

5 wins: Roma

2 wins: BlackPanther, BlacKkKlansman, If Beale Street Could Talk, and A Star is Born

[CoolioD1]

surprised none of the fanboys have mentioned this here but in terms of Studios, Disney actually led the nominations this year with 16 noms. 17 if you count that Pixar short. i'm not sure they've ever done that before?

[WittyUsername]

6 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

surprised none of the fanboys have mentioned this here but in terms of Studios, Disney actually led the nominations this year with 16 noms. 17 if you count that Pixar short. i'm not sure they've ever done that before?

That’s certainly not going to help silence the conspiracies about how Disney/ABC has the Academy in their pocket. 

 

Seriously though, can we not give Best Animated Film to The Incredibles 2 or Ralph Breaks the Internet?

[Avatree]

3 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

That’s certainly not going to help silence the conspiracies about how Disney/ABC has the Academy in their pocket. 

 

Seriously though, can we not give Best Animated Film to The Incredibles 2 or Ralph Breaks the Internet?

no, you can not.

[CoolioD1]

only reaction that mattered:

 

[Chaz]

Nothing is stopping Roma in Best Picture. 

[Avatree]

8 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

only reaction that mattered:

 

 

 

gold.

[Blankments]

6 hours ago, CoolioD1 said:

nah it should probably win.

ehhh... even if i agreed with you on it being eligible, do you like it more than Beale Street? 

 

if you don't that's cool i just want it in writing