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Counter-Intuitive point

 

It could potentially be argued that it is not in Disney’s best interest for Endgame to pass Avatar at this point.

 

It’s easier to sell/drum up interest for Avatar 2 and Avatarland if Avatar is the biggest film of all time.

 

Certainly there are many reasons this might not be true though (publicity Endgame gets for passing Avatar, more leverage to charge more for TV rights, etc)

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Disney, ever determined to knock “Avatar” off that perch, brought “Avengers: Endgame” back to multiplexes before it even left, enticing audiences with additional content and deleted scenes that didn’t make it into the initial three-hour movie. The special screenings, dubbed a Bring Back event, also included a video introduction from director Anthony Russo and a preview of “Spider-Man: Far From Home,” which hits theaters on Tuesday.

 

“Avengers: Endgame” wasn’t expected to pass “Avatar’s” benchmark from this weekend alone (before the re-release it was pacing behind by $44 million). It’s also safe to assume Disney still has a few tricks up its sleeve to get the film to ultimate box office glory. It’s still a testament to Marvel that the juggernaut returned to the top 10 on domestic box office charts, placing seventh for the weekend after almost two months of release. It has now earned $841 million in North America and $1.92 billion internationally.

 

Variety, for those in the back.

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1 minute ago, A Panda of Ice and Fire said:

Counter-Intuitive point

 

It could potentially be argued that it is not in Disney’s best interest for Endgame to pass Avatar at this point.

 

It’s easier to sell/drum up interest for Avatar 2 and Avatarland if Avatar is the biggest film of all time.

 

Certainly there are many reasons this might not be true though (publicity Endgame gets for passing Avatar, more leverage to charge more for TV rights, etc)

I’m legit curious what those celebrating that Avengers: Endgame won’t top Avatar will say once it does. It’s $26.6m away and that based on estimates. It is going down.

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2 minutes ago, A Panda of Ice and Fire said:

Counter-Intuitive point

 

It could potentially be argued that it is not in Disney’s best interest for Endgame to pass Avatar at this point.

 

It’s easier to sell/drum up interest for Avatar 2 and Avatarland if Avatar is the biggest film of all time.

 

Certainly there are many reasons this might not be true though (publicity Endgame gets for passing Avatar, more leverage to charge more for TV rights, etc)

Or they could rerelease Avatar later to let it get #1 again for the publicity in time for Avatar 2.

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Just now, ZattMurdock said:

I’m legit curious what those celebrating that Avengers: Endgame won’t top Avatar will say once it does. It’s $26.6m away and that based on estimates. It is going down.

I’ll have nothing to say because it really doesn’t matter to me which movie’s on top.  It’s probably 50/50 at this point, depends on how desperate Disney gets.

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1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:

I’m legit curious what those celebrating that Avengers: Endgame won’t top Avatar will say once it does. It’s $26.6m away and that based on estimates. It is going down.

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1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:

I’m legit curious what those celebrating that Avengers: Endgame won’t top Avatar will say once it does.

You're going to have to use the time stone to check out that reality because it's not happening in this one.

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6 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

I’m legit curious what those celebrating that Avengers: Endgame won’t top Avatar will say once it does. It’s $26.6m away and that based on estimates. It is going down.

Inflation and needing 22 movies of hype, plus movie dlc lol. 

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13 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

The best thing they could do for them is lower ticket prices for them

Historically that really did not went well in some case too and I would imagine the fact the theater make so much more on those ticket sales is a good incentive to at least play them.

 

But many study do suggest they should modulate pricing more (period of the year, day, week

https://web.stanford.edu/~leinav/pubs/IRLE2007.pdf or in bigger font:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.197.2740&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

Apparently the main strength has been distributor that refuse their movie to be played in theater chain that do not do the uniform pricing and a certain time before computer the added complexity, a distributor cannot be involved legally in the ticket price (paramount decree) but can all together influence it by accepting or not the movie to be played at all.

 

IF the law would be changed and that the distributor could be involved in the negotiation of the ticket price, I imagine we would see much more variability in them (but maybe not, maybe it would be seen has extremely dirty to try to underprice the competition and not done)

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1 minute ago, Sagemode87 said:

Inflation and needing 22 movies of hype, plus movie dlc lol. 

Just leave the thread if you are going to say a bunch of biased crap. Endgame has sold many more tickets worldwide. Exchange rates of Avatar plus 3D tickets negate the inflation, and I’m sure three months ago you would have said the 22-movie hype would hurt the gross due to being too much homework for audiences. Movie DLC on a MUCH smaller scale than Avatar’s. The fact that you put "lol" after every comment shows your are here to stir the pot.

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6 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

Disney is obviously ensuring it does. 

How can they ensure anything though. It all comes down to demand. This release is a cash grab, not a full blown new theatrical run. This means drops will be huge because most people that really want to see new scenes will have seen them. Not to mention some people will just go to YouTube. 

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1 minute ago, Sagemode87 said:

How can they ensure anything though. It all comes down to demand. This release is a cash grab, not a full blown new theatrical run. This means drops will be huge because most people that really want to see new scenes will have seen them. Not to mention some people will just go to YouTube. 

Do a real rerelease with premium screen formats once the normal run is done. You seem worse than Jimbo

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3 minutes ago, Doctor Stark said:

Just leave the thread if you are going to say a bunch of biased crap. Endgame has sold many more tickets worldwide. Exchange rates of Avatar plus 3D tickets negate the inflation, and I’m sure three months ago you would have said the 22-movie hype would hurt the gross due to being too much homework for audiences. Movie DLC on a MUCH smaller scale than Avatar’s. The fact that you put "lol" after every comment shows your are here to stir the pot.

And you're not biased? Why do I have to leave the thread because you don't like my opinion? Nothing wrong with disagreeing lol, no need to be toxic. No, that's just my typing style. 

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