baumer Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, VenomXXR said: From full weekend? Sure. From FSS? Doubt it would be much more. Maybe 52%. Yeah of course I'm talking about the full weekend. I didn't the extra 23 million from previews and I think it drives around 56 - 58%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Imagine Disney making a shot for shot soulless live action remake of their most beloved animated film and it grosses well over a billion dollars. These live action films will never end. If I was Disney I'd find a way to meld them all together ala Kingdom Hearts or some other kind of Disney Live Action universe cause the money and interest is 100% there. Even with two rotten scoring live action remakes back to back audiences just don't seem to care what critics have to say. Edited July 23, 2019 by Cappoedameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 This is Endgame’s 88th consecutive day above 250k. Tuesday will make 89, tying Jumanji. As far as I can tell these are the best from the 2010s, let me know if you see anything missing with at least 60 (but especially if I missed a 70+). Silver Linings Playbook 95 Endgame 89+ Jumanji 89 The King’s Speech 89 Frozen 87 BoRhap 87 BP 80 Lincoln 80 Greatest Showman 75 TA 73 TFA 73 Hidden Figures 73 IW 69 I2 69 WW 69 BatB 68 THG 67 GotG 66 TS3 66 IO 66 TJB 66 Maleficent 66 CM 62 DM2 62 Zootopia 62 gotg2 61 JW 61 Homecoming 60 Catching Fire 60 SLOP 60 Incredibly it seems that Aladdin (~80?), TS4 (~66?), F2, and TROS could all make a play for this list, making 6 (Disney) movies from 2019 alone! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, john2000 said: https://deadline.com/2019/07/the-lion-king-box-office-records-monday-1202651407/ Disney’s The Lion King chalked up the best Monday in July that Disney has ever seen with $21.6M in early estimates This weekend, Lion King will definitely reign again with industry estimates expecting around a -50% decline for a second weekend of $95M Industry projections for Lion King‘s final domestic are between $650M-$700M. (all of this seem very optimistic to me with such minimal info and we all know that we should take this with a HUGE grain of salt, fingers crossed) i could see 53% to 55% drop in 2nd weekend ... means $86 to $90 M in 2nd weekend.. anything close to $90 M would guarantee $600 M ... $600 M is awesome & anything above will be the big bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, baumer said: I would bet a lot of money that TLK drops significantly more than 50% this weekend. Significantly? IDK. Maybe 57%? I don't think it will have staying power, but it's Disney after all. It might perform like an oversized Aladdin. Full disclosure, I haven't seen either and I will not do that in my home town crappy theater, neither I have the time to travel and watch somewhere else. I will catch on theaters an week or two from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Zatt was right said: Significantly? IDK. Maybe 57%? I don't think it will have staying power, but it's Disney after all. It might perform like an oversized Aladdin. Full disclosure, I haven't seen either and I will not do that in my home town crappy theater, neither I have the time to travel and watch somewhere else. I will catch on theaters an week or two from now. Aladdin's probably heading out of theaters very soon I imagine. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, Cappoedameron said: Aladdin's probably heading out of theaters very soon I imagine. Aladdin was a film that NO ONE believed - myself included - that is about to break $1B WW. Like it or not, Aladdin is a box office success story, and it's bound to get sequels. First Will Smith's $1B film, if I'm not mistaken. It will still be playing in domestic theaters for the last leg of the Summer, just like Avengers: Endgame, the latter for obvious reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looking at my 1st local's set this upcoming weekend, I think the rumor of Disney terms being harsh for Lion King is probably true. Even though TLK never sold out a single showing on the 6 screens last weekend, the theater still has the Lion King set for 6 screens this weekend. I foresee a lot of empty seats coming...but it means the new opener really didn't get a large set (and now I'm wondering how long these screens need to be held)...and TLK has no excuse to not have a very good hold (could be an ugly box office weekend for year on year comparison if TLK really doesn't hold well)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, Zatt was right said: Aladdin was a film that NO ONE believed - myself included - that is about to break $1B WW. Like it or not, Aladdin is a box office success story, and it's bound to get sequels. First Will Smith's $1B film, if I'm not mistaken. It will still be playing in domestic theaters for the last leg of the Summer, just like Avengers: Endgame, the latter for obvious reasons. Would prefer they skip Return of Jafar and go to The King of Thieves, much better film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Looking at my 1st local's set this upcoming weekend, I think the rumor of Disney terms being harsh for Lion King is probably true. Even though TLK never sold out a single showing on the 6 screens last weekend, the theater still has the Lion King set for 6 screens this weekend. I foresee a lot of empty seats coming...but it means the new opener really didn't get a large set (and now I'm wondering how long these screens need to be held)...and TLK has no excuse to not have a very good hold (could be an ugly box office weekend for year on year comparison if TLK really doesn't hold well)... Disney has a special deal with theaters to hold their films for 3 weeks in their biggest screens. This is their way of making sure their movies stick to the screens while new films from other studios get relegated to second hand screens. Edited July 23, 2019 by Cappoedameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mekanos Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 So...my IMAX ten minutes before 1PM showtime: I said before Irvine Spectrum not being on the highest theater list is shocking but damn. There’s construction going on outside the theater, the theater itself is obscured by big boards, so that has to hurt walk ups, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Looking at my 1st local's set this upcoming weekend, I think the rumor of Disney terms being harsh for Lion King is probably true. Even though TLK never sold out a single showing on the 6 screens last weekend, the theater still has the Lion King set for 6 screens this weekend. I foresee a lot of empty seats coming...but it means the new opener really didn't get a large set (and now I'm wondering how long these screens need to be held)...and TLK has no excuse to not have a very good hold (could be an ugly box office weekend for year on year comparison if TLK really doesn't hold well)... The ol' theory of box office juggernauts sucking the air out of every other big release lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinRed Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said: Imagine Disney making a shot for shot soulless live action remake of their most beloved animated film and it grosses well over a billion dollars. These live action films will never end. If I was Disney I'd find a way to meld them all together ala Kingdom Hearts or some other kind of Disney Live Action universe cause the money and interest is 100% there. Even with two rotten scoring live action remakes back to back audiences just don't seem to care what critics have to say. They don't and they shouldn't. Whether something is good is inherently subjective. We can only measure what is liked. My family talked about the reviews. They understood them, and didn't really disagree with them - but they ignored them. Their comment was they would have been upset if Disney had made any major changes to the story. I think in the end Disney largely delivered what the audiences wanted, not what the critics wanted. A couple of my family members have seen the movie twice so far. Both times audiences clapped at the end of the movie - that's about as positive a response you can get at a movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zatt was right said: The ol' theory of box office juggernauts sucking the air out of every other big release lives on. Crawl and Stuber both got dropped to let it keep screen 6...crazy set there...you can see the rest in the main tracking thread...but c'mon...it's a 12 screener and it still has 1/2 the screens for a single film (and only held THREE other movies, all with Disney ties)... Edited July 23, 2019 by TwoMisfits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, RamblinRed said: They don't and they shouldn't. Whether something is good is inherently subjective. We can only measure what is liked. My family talked about the reviews. They understood them, and didn't really disagree with them - but they ignored them. Their comment was they would have been upset if Disney had made any major changes to the story. I think in the end Disney largely delivered what the audiences wanted, not what the critics wanted. A couple of my family members have seen the movie twice so far. Both times audiences clapped at the end of the movie - that's about as positive a response you can get at a movie. LOL and to think in the 80's and 90's that was the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Crawl and Stuber both got dropped to let it keep screen 6...crazy set there...you can see the rest in the main tracking thread...but c'mon...it's a 12 screener and it still has 1/2 the screens for a single film (and only held THREE other movies, all with Disney ties)... I think that THR article has it right. In order for smaller films to survive in the new blockbuster landscape, Stuber's ticket can't be the same price as Avengers: Endgame's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxalcamo Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said: Imagine Disney making a shot for shot soulless live action remake of their most beloved animated film and it grosses well over a billion dollars. These live action films will never end. If I was Disney I'd find a way to meld them all together ala Kingdom Hearts or some other kind of Disney Live Action universe cause the money and interest is 100% there. Even with two rotten scoring live action remakes back to back audiences just don't seem to care what critics have to say. They have only the little Mermaid (but i don't see it big as The beauty and the beast and the lion king but still over a 1B) and Mulan. Pinocchio, Snow White, Crudelia, The sword in the stone are more likely to make something between Dumbo and Cinderella (350-550M WW). Edited July 23, 2019 by maxalcamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Looking at my 1st local's set this upcoming weekend, I think the rumor of Disney terms being harsh for Lion King is probably true. Even though TLK never sold out a single showing on the 6 screens last weekend, the theater still has the Lion King set for 6 screens this weekend. I foresee a lot of empty seats coming...but it means the new opener really didn't get a large set (and now I'm wondering how long these screens need to be held)...and TLK has no excuse to not have a very good hold (could be an ugly box office weekend for year on year comparison if TLK really doesn't hold well)... Really not difficult to figure out why it's holding screens with only one new opener projected to open around $40m. It's PTA would have to drop 90%+ to be as low as what the 3rd highest film of the w/e will be. It doesn't need to sell out to be more profitable for theaters to keep it as opposed to other films. 1 N The Lion King (2019) BV $191,770,759 - 4,725 - $40,586 $191,770,759 - 1 2 1 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony $21,202,431 -53.3% 4,415 -219 $4,802 $319,861,843 $160 3 3 2 Toy Story 4 BV $15,551,086 -25.8% 3,750 -460 $4,147 $376,484,435 - 5 4 3 Crawl Par. $6,095,561 -49.2% 3,170 - $1,923 $23,930,371 $13.5 2 5 5 Yesterday Uni. $5,020,835 -25.2% 2,662 -93 $1,886 $57,517,300 $26 4 6 4 Stuber Fox $4,115,279 -50.0% 3,050 - $1,349 $16,197,143 - 2 7 6 Aladdin (2019) BV $4,085,424 -33.8% 2,105 -452 $1,941 $340,326,138 $183 9 8 7 Annabelle Comes Home WB (NL) $2,601,687 -53.7% 1,981 -1,228 $1,313 $66,523,888 - 4 9 8 Midsommar A24 $1,596,447 -56.5% 1,105 -1,602 $1,445 $22,479,475 - 3 10 9 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Uni. $1,535,065 -52.1% 1,380 -940 $1,112 $151,556,230 $80 7 11 11 Avengers: Endgame BV $1,514,741 -28.0% 985 -458 $1,538 $854,531,934 $356 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Zatt was right said: Significantly? IDK. Maybe 57%? I don't think it will have staying power, but it's Disney after all. It might perform like an oversized Aladdin. Full disclosure, I haven't seen either and I will not do that in my home town crappy theater, neither I have the time to travel and watch somewhere else. I will catch on theaters an week or two from now. 56-58 is significant. it's not an indictment of the movie itself it's just it had a huge preview number and that can't be discounted. So it's going to have to fall more than 50% especially when the weekdays are going to be so strong 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
