Oppenheimer | 2024 Academy Award Winner for Best Picture and Best Director

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[Hatebox]

The sex scenes were fine. I don’t know why Americans insist on being weird about this stuff.

Edited July 26, 2023 by Hatebox

[TalismanRing]

2 hours ago, ZattMurdock said:

I’m not entirely sure if you are Japanese or just lives there, but I think all it needs to be said is that innocent people died. Civilians died. That isn’t justified in Japan or literally anywhere. The bomb should have never been dropped. Period.

Japan's war, invasion and occupation in the pacific resulted in the deaths of at least 20 million civilians and that may be a huge underestimation.  There are claims that over 50 million Chinese died during the 10 year occupation.   In 1937 The Rape of Nanking alone was at minimum 200,000 people murdered (some estimates are up to 300-400k) and 20,000 raped over a 6 week period. 

 

The atomic bomb is an incomprehensibly horrific weapon that should never have been dropped but it was dropped in a incomprehensibly horrific war where a minimum of 60 MILLION people died - the overwhelming majority innocent.  There were air raid bombings of Japan from 1942-45  where far more civilians died than with the atomic bombs (est: 300k to 900k) .   At the time the first atomic bomb was dropped there were still 3,000 people - mostly civilian - killed a day by Japanese forces.   The scale of inhumanity, horror and loss is almost unimaginable to people of this era. 

 

Deaths by Country
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Country	Military Deaths	Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Albania	30,000	30,200
Australia	39,800	40,500
Austria	261,000	384,700
Belgium	12,100	86,100
Brazil	1,000	2,000
Bulgaria	22,000	25,000
Canada	45,400	45,400
China	3-4,000,000	20,000,000
Czechoslovakia	25,000	345,000
Denmark	2,100	3,200
Dutch East Indies	--	3-4,000,000
Estonia	--	51,000
Ethiopia	5,000	100,000
Finland	95,000	97,000
France	217,600	567,600
French Indochina	--	1-1,500,000
Germany	5,533,000	6,600,000-8,800,000
Greece	20,000-35,000	300,000-800,000
Hungary	300,000	580,000
India	87,000	1,500,000-2,500,000
Italy	301,400	457,000
Japan	2,120,000	2,600,000-3,100,000
Korea	--	378,000-473,000
Latvia	--	227,000
Lithuania	--	353,000
Luxembourg	--	2,000
Malaya	--	100,000
Netherlands	17,000	301,000
New Zealand	11,900	11,900
Norway	3,000	9,500
Papua New Guinea	--	15,000
Philippines	57,000	500,000-1,000,000
Poland	240,000	5,600,000
Romania	300,000	833,000
Singapore	--	50,000
South Africa	11,900	11,900
Soviet Union	8,800,000-10,700,000	24,000,000
United Kingdom	383,600	450,700
United States	416,800	418,500
Yugoslavia	446,000	1,000,000

---

Worldwide Casualties*
 

Battle Deaths	15,000,000
Battle Wounded	25,000,000
Civilian Deaths	45,000,000

*Worldwide casualty estimates vary widely in several sources. The number of civilian deaths in China alone might well be more than 50,000,000.

 

[TalismanRing]

46 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

The sex scenes were fine. I don’t know why Americans insist on being weird about this stuff.

 

It's weird but at least they weren't covered in inky black CGI like in India  - the land of the Kama Sutra   - where an on screen kiss is still considered a bit risque.

[redfirebird2008]

33 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

It's weird but at least they weren't covered in inky black CGI like in India  - the land of the Kama Sutra   - where an on screen kiss is still considered a bit risque.

 

Whole lot of boinking in India, judging by the massive population there. 

[Giesi]

What’s current worldwide total for Interstellar? 

[abracadabra1998]

2 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Japan's war, invasion and occupation in the pacific resulted in the deaths of at least 20 million civilians and that may be a huge underestimation.  There are claims that over 50 million Chinese died during the 10 year occupation.   In 1937 The Rape of Nanking alone was at minimum 200,000 people murdered (some estimates are up to 300-400k) and 20,000 raped over a 6 week period. 

 

The atomic bomb is an incomprehensibly horrific weapon that should never have been dropped but it was dropped in a incomprehensibly horrific war where a minimum of 60 MILLION people died - the overwhelming majority innocent.  There were air raid bombings of Japan from 1942-45  where far more civilians died than with the atomic bombs (est: 300k to 900k) .   At the time the first atomic bomb was dropped there were still 3,000 people - mostly civilian - killed a day by Japanese forces.   The scale of inhumanity, horror and loss is almost unimaginable to people of this era. 

 

Deaths by Country
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Country	Military Deaths	Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Albania	30,000	30,200
Australia	39,800	40,500
Austria	261,000	384,700
Belgium	12,100	86,100
Brazil	1,000	2,000
Bulgaria	22,000	25,000
Canada	45,400	45,400
China	3-4,000,000	20,000,000
Czechoslovakia	25,000	345,000
Denmark	2,100	3,200
Dutch East Indies	--	3-4,000,000
Estonia	--	51,000
Ethiopia	5,000	100,000
Finland	95,000	97,000
France	217,600	567,600
French Indochina	--	1-1,500,000
Germany	5,533,000	6,600,000-8,800,000
Greece	20,000-35,000	300,000-800,000
Hungary	300,000	580,000
India	87,000	1,500,000-2,500,000
Italy	301,400	457,000
Japan	2,120,000	2,600,000-3,100,000
Korea	--	378,000-473,000
Latvia	--	227,000
Lithuania	--	353,000
Luxembourg	--	2,000
Malaya	--	100,000
Netherlands	17,000	301,000
New Zealand	11,900	11,900
Norway	3,000	9,500
Papua New Guinea	--	15,000
Philippines	57,000	500,000-1,000,000
Poland	240,000	5,600,000
Romania	300,000	833,000
Singapore	--	50,000
South Africa	11,900	11,900
Soviet Union	8,800,000-10,700,000	24,000,000
United Kingdom	383,600	450,700
United States	416,800	418,500
Yugoslavia	446,000	1,000,000

---

Worldwide Casualties*
 

Battle Deaths	15,000,000
Battle Wounded	25,000,000
Civilian Deaths	45,000,000

*Worldwide casualty estimates vary widely in several sources. The number of civilian deaths in China alone might well be more than 50,000,000.

 

The number of people who died during world war 2 in the Soviet Union gets me every time. That’s just staggering

[Issac Newton]

50 minutes ago, Giesi said:

What’s current worldwide total for Interstellar? 

BOM had it at $773,430,538

[CJohn]

9 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

BOM had it at $773,430,538

I am not sure where BOM took this number from. The-Numbers has it at 647M WW.

[Issac Newton]

1 minute ago, CJohn said:

I am not sure where BOM took this number from. The-Numbers has it at 647M WW.

May be the error is coming with Korea numbers

 

APAC	# Releases	Lifetime Gross	Rank
South Korea	4	$132,639,870	2

[reddevil19]

Ya, I know Interstellar had a couple re-releases here and there, but BOM has one listed for SK in 2021 making like 70 million. Which... I feel like is incorrect. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by reddevil19

[eeetooki]

7 minutes ago, CJohn said:

I am not sure where BOM took this number from. The-Numbers has it at 647M WW.

 

Is that including the re-release numbers?

[MrPink]

Total should be just over 700m. It was around 673m from original run and then rereleases in 2020 got it to 700m, mostly from China. BOM is jacked up

Edited July 26, 2023 by MrPink

[TalismanRing]

2 hours ago, reddevil19 said:

Ya, I know Interstellar had a couple re-releases here and there, but BOM has one listed for SK in 2021 making like 70 million. Which... I feel like is correct. 

 

Korean site Korbis has no re-release numbers for Interstellar in 2021 (or 2020) in the top 50.   SM was the highest grosser at around $44m.    They only have it listed for 2014 at 10m admissions and $63m (lower than $70m because they always use local currency and  the $ reflects current exchange rates)

Edited July 26, 2023 by TalismanRing

[reddevil19]

6 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Korean site Korbis has no re-release numbers for Interstellar in 2021 (or 2020) in the top 50.   SM was the highest grosser at around $44m.    They only have it listed for 2014 at 10m admissions and $63m (lower than $70m because they always use local currency and  the $ reflects current exchange rates)

Sorry, I meant to say INcorrect. lol.

[Redolent]

7 hours ago, Hatebox said:

The sex scenes were fine. I don’t know why Americans insist on being weird about this stuff.

There’s a rumour on TikTok of a ‘15 minute full penetration sex scene’ and an absurd number of people seem to think it’s true. A colleague cited it as a reason not to go with a member of their family. 

[The Panda]

6 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Japan's war, invasion and occupation in the pacific resulted in the deaths of at least 20 million civilians and that may be a huge underestimation.  There are claims that over 50 million Chinese died during the 10 year occupation.   In 1937 The Rape of Nanking alone was at minimum 200,000 people murdered (some estimates are up to 300-400k) and 20,000 raped over a 6 week period. 

 

The atomic bomb is an incomprehensibly horrific weapon that should never have been dropped but it was dropped in a incomprehensibly horrific war where a minimum of 60 MILLION people died - the overwhelming majority innocent.  There were air raid bombings of Japan from 1942-45  where far more civilians died than with the atomic bombs (est: 300k to 900k) .   At the time the first atomic bomb was dropped there were still 3,000 people - mostly civilian - killed a day by Japanese forces.   The scale of inhumanity, horror and loss is almost unimaginable to people of this era. 

 

Deaths by Country
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Country	Military Deaths	Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Albania	30,000	30,200
Australia	39,800	40,500
Austria	261,000	384,700
Belgium	12,100	86,100
Brazil	1,000	2,000
Bulgaria	22,000	25,000
Canada	45,400	45,400
China	3-4,000,000	20,000,000
Czechoslovakia	25,000	345,000
Denmark	2,100	3,200
Dutch East Indies	--	3-4,000,000
Estonia	--	51,000
Ethiopia	5,000	100,000
Finland	95,000	97,000
France	217,600	567,600
French Indochina	--	1-1,500,000
Germany	5,533,000	6,600,000-8,800,000
Greece	20,000-35,000	300,000-800,000
Hungary	300,000	580,000
India	87,000	1,500,000-2,500,000
Italy	301,400	457,000
Japan	2,120,000	2,600,000-3,100,000
Korea	--	378,000-473,000
Latvia	--	227,000
Lithuania	--	353,000
Luxembourg	--	2,000
Malaya	--	100,000
Netherlands	17,000	301,000
New Zealand	11,900	11,900
Norway	3,000	9,500
Papua New Guinea	--	15,000
Philippines	57,000	500,000-1,000,000
Poland	240,000	5,600,000
Romania	300,000	833,000
Singapore	--	50,000
South Africa	11,900	11,900
Soviet Union	8,800,000-10,700,000	24,000,000
United Kingdom	383,600	450,700
United States	416,800	418,500
Yugoslavia	446,000	1,000,000

---

Worldwide Casualties*
 

Battle Deaths	15,000,000
Battle Wounded	25,000,000
Civilian Deaths	45,000,000

*Worldwide casualty estimates vary widely in several sources. The number of civilian deaths in China alone might well be more than 50,000,000.

 

 

The casualties in WW2 are awful, but it's a major fallacy to use those numbers to write-off the casualties from the atomic bomb.

 

Even at the low end of 110k casualties, that is 110k people (mostly civilians) dead from two single bombings over the course of two single days (This isn't even considering long term damage from radiation and psychological affects of those that survived). Bombings which intentionally chose civilian targets of a country that was at the verge of surrender and essentially defeated.

 

The debate around whether the atomic bombs should have been dropped is not determined by them being the largest cumulative source of casualties during the war. It also isn't meant to justify or forgive Japan for atrocities they committed during the war. It also isn't a sick dick measuring contest of which country suffered the most damages. It is examining two horrific single day events that changed the course of the world. It's a complex issue, but writing it off because the rest of the six year war was also bloody is a poor way to think about it.

 

 

[Dragoncaine]

24 minutes ago, Redolent said:

There’s a rumour on TikTok of a ‘15 minute full penetration sex scene’ and an absurd number of people seem to think it’s true. A colleague cited it as a reason not to go with a member of their family. 

TikTok brain rot is at an all-time high

[WittyUsername]

The bombings against Japan are very clearly painted as a less than good thing here. The movie isn’t trying to suggest it was a heroic act of peace. 

[ChipDerby]

20 hours ago, eeetooki said:

For those that went to watch Oppenheimer in 70mm IMAX, did you get your film strip souvenir before entering the theatres?

 

Still not well enough to sit in the theatre for 3 hours yet, but I really want one of the film strip...I want to just buy a obscure seat to get a film strip...

 

I'm seeing this in 70mm in 2 weeks. I'm hoping there are still some left lol