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I know all the talk about what will be the breakout of the summer is on the weekend thread but I think that's better suited for this one.

 

Anyways, I've said before that No Hard Feelings is gonna be the big breakout of the summer, but I think Oppenheimer can have some good legs in the late summer period if people respond well. Predicting a performance similar to Dunkirk.

 

The grand winner of the summer will be Mission: Impossible since the last few films have improved in box office and have gotten increasingly better reviews. People love these movies and have faith in them being good.

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14 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

$300 M for M:I domestically 

 

 

I really don't know how a 7th movie can increase that much. WHY? The franchise has its fans and it's doing around 200M for years. It's not gonna increase that much imo. It has no reason to.... just because TG2 did insane numbers. it doesn't mean every TC movie will increase huge.

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8 minutes ago, Maggie said:

I really don't know how a 7th movie can increase that much. WHY? The franchise has its fans and it's doing around 200M for years. It's not gonna increase that much imo. It has no reason to.... just because TG2 did insane numbers. it doesn't mean every TC movie will increase huge.


Not cause of Top Gun but because of the active fandom this series has, the marketing has been smart so far (putting the stunt bts video in front of Avatar was genius) and if test screenings are to be believed it’s a fantastic film. That’s why I’m seeing it as the winner for international and domestic this summer.

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summer 2023 top 10

 

1) The Little Mermaid 

2) SM Across the Spiderverse 

3) MI Dead Reckoning  

4) GOTG 3

5) Indiana Jones The Dial of Destiny 

6) The Flash 

7) Elemental 

8).  Fast X

9) Transformers Rise of the Beasts

10) Oppenheimer 

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11 hours ago, Maggie said:

I really don't know how a 7th movie can increase that much. WHY? The franchise has its fans and it's doing around 200M for years. It's not gonna increase that much imo. It has no reason to.... just because TG2 did insane numbers. it doesn't mean every TC movie will increase huge.

Because MI has been increasing for year. I see no reason to assume that will stop.

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My predictions for summer 2023 (DOM only): 

 

1. The Flash: $363m

2. The Little Mermaid: $359m

3. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny: $344m

4. Across the Spider-Verse: $321m

5. Guardians of the Galaxy. Vol 3: $295m

6. Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning - Part One: $278m

7. Barbie: $272m

8. Elemental: $209m

9. Fast X: $160m

10. Oppenheimer: $141m

11. Transformers: Rise of the Beast: $135m

12. The Boogeyman: $80m

13. Blue Beetle: $75m

14. Insidious: The Red Door: $69m

15. No Hard Feelings: $67m

16. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem: $62m

17. Haunted Mansion: $58m

 

Late-May to Mid-July is insane considering all of the potential massive wildcards are placed there (Indiana Jones, Little Mermaid, Spider-Man, The Flash...). I have a feeling one of them will surprise and do something like +$450m DOM and other ones might then just underperform a bit because of it, I just don't know which one it'll be yet. 

 

The Little Mermaid will probably be well received by audiences and has the advantage of being a musical, like audiences expect from a Disney live action, however, it'll also receive massive backlash from certain people, it needs a massive overperformance in the US to reach a billion WW in my opinion.

 

The Flash had always felt like a $200-250m movie to me but apparently it is pretty good, WB seems pretty confident and it will have multiple cameos so the sky is the limit, however, it has to deal with Ezra controversy and superhero fatigue. 

 

Indiana Jones could be a massive breakout, I'm just not seeing any hype for it, again this could change with rave reviews and great early buzz. Across the Spider-Verse will jump big from the first one but I think competition will hurt it.

 

 

 

 

 

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Top 5 of the Last Summer Seasons*

 

2022

01 | 718.7M TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 411.3M DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 376.9M JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 369.7M MINIONS: THE RISE OF GRU

05 | 343.3M THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER

 

2019

01 | 858.4M AVENGERS: ENDGAME

02 | 543.6M THE LION KING

03 | 434.0M TOY STORY IV

04 | 390.5M SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME

05 | 355.6M ALADDIN

 

2018

01 | 678.8M | AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR

02 | 608.6M | INCREDIBLES II

03 | 417.7M | JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM

04 | 318.5M | DEADPOOL II

05 | 220.2M | MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT

 

2017

01 | 412.6M | WONDER WOMAN

02 | 389.8M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY II

03 | 334.2M | SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

04 | 264.6M | DESPICABLE ME III

05 | 188.0M | DUNKIRK

 

2016

01 | 486.3M | FINDING DORY

02 | 408.1M | CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR

03 | 368.4M | THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS

04 | 325.1M | SUICIDE SQUAD

05 | 162.4M | JASON BOURNE

 

*excluding 2021 and 2020

 

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On 4/21/2023 at 11:13 PM, Maggie said:

I really don't know how a 7th movie can increase that much. WHY? The franchise has its fans and it's doing around 200M for years. It's not gonna increase that much imo. It has no reason to.... just because TG2 did insane numbers. it doesn't mean every TC movie will increase huge.

 

300M would not be a crazy jump, IMHO. MI6 grossed 220M in 2018. Adding inflation, continued exposure of all the saga in streaming services, Cruise's heat, and the part-of-a-finale boost, there is room for an important increase.

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On 4/21/2023 at 2:40 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Apr 14 - Apr 16 / $147,039,572

2022 / Apr 15 - Apr 17 / $107,168,534

 

WINS

2023: 13 weekends

2022: 02 weekends

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Apr 21 - Apr 23 / $125,042,659

2022 / Apr 22 - Apr 24 / $93,502,811

 

WINS

2023: 14 weekends

2022: 02 weekends

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On 4/21/2023 at 2:51 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 371.2 M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 212.9 M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

03 | 162.5 M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

04 | 155.5 M | CREED III

05 | 107.2 M | SCREAM VI

 

06 | 095.0 M | M3GAN

07 | 076.2 M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

08 | 064.4 M | COCAINE BEAR

09 | 057.5 M | SHAZAM! FURY OF THE GODS

10 | 052.0 M | JESUS REVOLUTION

 

11 | 039.3 M | 80 FOR BRADY

12 | 035.7 M | AIR

13 | 035.4 M | KNOCK AT THE CABIN

14 | 032.5 M | MISSING

15 | 032.1 M | PLANE

 

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1 - DISNEY

3 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

4 - UNIVERSAL

1 - WARNER BROS.

2 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 300M movies

02 | 200M movies

05 | 100M movies

10 | 050M movies

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 447.0 M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 213.0 M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

03 | 170.6 M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

04 | 155.9 M | CREED III

05 | 107.9 M | SCREAM VI

 

06 | 095.0 M | M3GAN

07 | 083.7 M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

08 | 064.4 M | COCAINE BEAR

09 | 057.6 M | SHAZAM! FURY OF THE GODS

10 | 052.1 M | JESUS REVOLUTION

 

11 | 043.2 M | AIR

12 | 039.3 M | 80 FOR BRADY

13 | 035.4 M | KNOCK AT THE CABIN

14 | 032.5 M | MISSING

15 | 032.1 M | PLANE

 

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1 - DISNEY

3 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

4 - UNIVERSAL

1 - WARNER BROS.

2 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 400M movies

01 | 300M movies

02 | 200M movies

05 | 100M movies

10 | 050M movies

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On 3/27/2023 at 12:59 PM, stripe said:

 

Time to look at March predictions and post April's

March slightly overperformed the numbers I guessed. With 5 days left, it has already grossed 563M+ and looks to finish with more than 625M. Over last year's March. The most encouraging sign is that the top grosser (Creed) only accounted for 24% of the full month gross. Way better than last year (The Batman's 57%) and in line with prepandemic levels.

 

JW and Creed exceeded my predictions, while Shazam! underperformed. I was also a bit high with AMQ.

 

Let's predict April. Conservative mood.

 

Openers (around 420M)

Super Mario Bros: 250M
AIR: 25M
Pope's Exorcist: 20M

Renfield: 40M
Suzume: 10M

Evil Dead Rise: 35M

Covenant: 15M
Are you there God? 10M

Rest of openers: 15M

 

Holdovers (230M)

D&D: 90M

JW4: 80M

Scream6: 15M
Creed3: 15M
Shazam!: 10M

Rest; 20M
 

Cumulative gross for April: 650M, with chances of a few breakouts. Last year the gross was 571M, with Sonic2 leading. We are approaching prepandemic levels.

 

 

Time to recap my April predictions and look at May schedule

 

Very happy to see another month overperforming my predictions thanks to SMB well over my conservative 250M and Air confirming there is room for this kind of films. I was also quite off with Renfield, and Air. In the end, April grossed 900M, reaching prepandemic levels and easily outgrossing 2022’s 571M.

Unfortunately, some holdovers weren’t as strong as I hoped, especially D&D.

 

Looking at May, conservative mood.


Openers (700M)

Guardians of the Galaxy 3: 300M

Love Again: 10M

Book Club 2: 30M

Fool’s Paradise: 10M

Hypnotic: 20M

Knights of the Zodiac: 10M

Fast X: 150M

About my Father: 15M

Kandahar: 10M

Little Mermaid: 130M

Rest: 20M

 

Holdovers (130M)

Mario Bros: 80M

Evil Dead Rises: 15M

Margaret: 15M

Rest: 20M

 

So cumulative gross for May: 830M, pretty close to last year’s 785M and a bit under prepandemic levels. Anyways, I have a feeling it can be a better figure: Guardians can gross more (tracking is slowly improving) and a few films can overperform (looking at Book Club, Hypnotic, Love Again, and About my father).

800M – standard

850M – solid

900M – great

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Dan Murrell posted his summer box office predictions. Some really bad takes here I think, but kind of interesting.

 

Around 34 minutes in:

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1. Little Mermaid


2. Across the Spider-Verse

3. Guardians of the Galaxy 3

4. Flash

5. Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning

6. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

7. Elemental

8. Fast X

9. Oppenheimer

10. Barbie

 

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On 4/28/2023 at 7:57 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Apr 21 - Apr 23 / $125,042,659

2022 / Apr 22 - Apr 24 / $93,502,811

 

WINS

2023: 14 weekends

2022: 02 weekends

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Apr 28 - Apr 30 / $100,153,062

2022 / Apr 29 - May 01 / $66,904,036

 

WINS

2023: 15 weekends

2022: 02 weekends

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