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With the flash underperforming somewhat, Elemental and No Hard Feelings also not bringing anything to the table, and Indiana Jones looking increasingly like it'll open right about at Flash's level (and even if a bit higher it's just previews+opening day), I think June will come in at around 960-ish million, basically even with last june, which is quite good.

 

My guess is we'll see about 700-750 from July releases (including Indi5) and ~125 from holdovers for a total between 800 and 900. The previous average July (2016-2019) was 1268. 

 

Still, this year is well ahead of 2022 with every month either being roughly even with last year (March+May+June) or well ahead of it (Jan+Feb+Apr). July will be the first month to fall significantly behind. Aug+Sept I'll guess will be roughly even, Oct and beyond too soon to tell.

 

July 14 Edit:

With new info on MI7 and Barbenheimer July looks like it should come in in the range of 1050-1100 million. That's counting around 250 from barbie (approx value if it opens in the 130-150 range), and 100-110 from Opp if it does similar to Dunkirk's numbers. Both could be much higher, we'll see.  Worse case 100m less than July 2022, but these strong late July releases will carry this year into August much stronger than the July releases did last year meaning this year will maintain a significant lead all the way through the end of the summer season.

In fact MI, Barbie and Opp, all three could very well play strongly into September boosting that month well above last year.

Oct will likely be as bad or worse than last year looking at the schedule.

Nov too early to tell

 

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On 6/16/2023 at 1:27 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 09 - Jun 11 / $165,293,188

2022 / Jun 10 - Jun 12 / $214,852,641

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 05 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (WEEKEND 23)

 

2023

01 | 570.3M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 335.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 229.2M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

04 | 225.5M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 398.1M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

02 | 395.2M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

03 | 189.9M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

04 | 148.4M | UNCHARTED

05 | 145.1M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

 

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 16 - Jun 18 / $163,789,317

2022 / Jun 17 - Jun 19 / $164,531,244

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 06 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (AS OF WEEKEND 24)

 

2023

01 | 572.1M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 344.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 279.6M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 253.0M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 466.8M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 405.3M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 250.3M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 190.5M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

05 | 148.5M | UNCHARTED

 

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On 6/16/2023 at 1:46 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 571.3M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 338.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 247.3M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 239.4M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 140.0M | FAST X

09 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

10 | 095.0M | M3GAN

 

11 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

12 | 077.6M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

13 | 067.2M | EVIL DEAD RISE

14 | 064.4M | COCAINE BEAR

15 | 057.6M | SHAZAM! FURY OF THE GODS

 

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3 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

4 - UNIVERSAL

2 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

02 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

09 | 100M movies

17 | 050M movies

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 572.6M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 347.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 297.8M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 261.6M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 143.5M | FAST X

09 | 111.3M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

10 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

 

11 | 095.0M | M3GAN

12 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

13 | 072.4M | THE FLASH

14 | 067.2M | EVIL DEAD RISE

15 | 064.4M | COCAINE BEAR

 

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3 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

4 - UNIVERSAL

2 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

02 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

10 | 100M movies

18 | 050M movies

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On 6/23/2023 at 7:53 PM, MattW said:

With the flash underperforming somewhat, Elemental and No Hard Feelings also not bringing anything to the table, and Indiana Jones looking increasingly like it'll open right about at Flash's level (and even if a bit higher it's just previews+opening day), I think June will come in at around 960-ish million, basically even with last june, which is quite good.

 

My guess is we'll see about 700-750 from July releases (including Indi5) and ~125 from holdovers for a total between 800 and 900. The previous average July (2016-2019) was 1268. 

 

Still, this year is well ahead of 2022 with every month either being roughly even with last year (March+May+June) or well ahead of it (Jan+Feb+Apr). July will be the first month to fall significantly behind. Aug+Sept I'll guess will be roughly even, Oct and beyond too soon to tell.

 

I still have faith June will cross 1b. Right now we are at 900M. Monday-Thursday we could see a cumulative gross of 60M+. Then, Indy opening should easily boost Friday to 40M+. Anyways, Flash killed a potential 1.1b June.

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On 6/1/2023 at 4:31 PM, stripe said:

 

Time for May's recap and June's forecast
May closed around 60M under my predicted cumulative gross. LOL at my predictions besides tentpoles. We need more middle ground success stories! In the end, May'23 closed just behind May'22.

June's predictions:

Openers (800M)

Across the Spiderverse: 300M

Boogeyman: 40M

Transformers: 80M

Asteroid City: 10M

Blackening: 20M

Elemental: 90M

Flash: 180M

No Hard Feelings: 35M

Indiana Jones 5: 30M

Ruby Gillman: 5M

Rest: 10M

 

Holdovers (230M)

TLM: 120M

Guardians: 45M

FastX: 35M

Rest: 30M

 

June Cumulative gross: 1,030M, slightly over last year's (970M). We could see higher numbers for Spiderverse, Elemental, Flash, No Hard Feelings... 

 

June's recap and July's forecast

 

This month began nicely, but last half greatly disappointed. Spiderverse (+30M), Mermaid (+15M) and Transformers (+50M) overperformed my predictions, but then The Flash (-90M), Elemental (-10M) and NHF (-10M) went under. The rest I was quite spot on, waiting for Indiana Jones OD. In the end, the gross should be very close to that 1,030M I guessed.
 

July's predictions:

Openers (675M)

Insidious: 40M

Joy Ride: 30M

Mission Impossible 7: 200M

Barbie: 220M

Oppenheimer: 140M

Talk to Me: 5M

Haunted Mansion: 30M

Rest: 10M

 

Holdovers (430M)

Indiana Jones: 200M

NHF: 30M

Ruby Gillman: 15M

Elemental: 50M

Flash: 15M

Transformers: 15M

Spiderverse: 45M

Asteroid City: 20M

Rest: 40M

 

Cumulative gross: 1,100M. Almost on par with last year's july (1,133M)

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On 6/24/2023 at 7:48 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 16 - Jun 18 / $163,789,317

2022 / Jun 17 - Jun 19 / $164,531,244

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 06 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (AS OF WEEKEND 24)

 

2023

01 | 572.1M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 344.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 279.6M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 253.0M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 466.8M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 405.3M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 250.3M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 190.5M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

05 | 148.5M | UNCHARTED

 

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 23 - Jun 25 / $109,097,190

2022 / Jun 24 - Jun 26 / $134,597,965

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 07 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (AS OF WEEKEND 25)

 

2023

01 | 573.0M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 351.1M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 316.8M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 270.1M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 520.8M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 409.2M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 303.1M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 190.7M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

05 | 148.6M | UNCHARTED

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On 6/24/2023 at 7:55 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 572.6M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 347.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 297.8M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 261.6M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 143.5M | FAST X

09 | 111.3M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

10 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

 

11 | 095.0M | M3GAN

12 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

13 | 072.4M | THE FLASH

14 | 067.2M | EVIL DEAD RISE

15 | 064.4M | COCAINE BEAR

 

---

 

3 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

4 - UNIVERSAL

2 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

02 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

10 | 100M movies

18 | 050M movies

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 573.3M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 353.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 328.4M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 275.8M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 145.2M | FAST X

09 | 131.0M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

10 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

 

11 | 095.7M | THE FLASH

12 | 095.0M | M3GAN

13 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

14 | 080.9M | ELEMENTAL

15 | 067.2M | EVIL DEAD RISE

 

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4 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

3 - UNIVERSAL

2 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

03 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

10 | 100M movies

19 | 050M movies

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On 6/14/2022 at 10:33 AM, Juby said:

Isn't it this year?

 

My first raw forecast for 2023:

 

Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 - $450m

Indiana Jones 5 - $375m ($300-400m range)

The Marvels - $300m

Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom - $290m

Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning, Part 1 - $280m ($250-310m range)

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - $270m

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - $250m

The Flash - $250m

Dune: Part Two - $215m

John Wick: Chapter 4 - $200m

Wonka - $180m

Oppenheimer - $175m

Fast X = $165m

Transformers: Rise of the Beats - $150m

Blue Beetle = $150m

 

I know there'll be also TLM, Mario film, Sony-verse movies, and some Disney and Pixar animations, but I don't have anything for them yet. I'll update my list at the end of December.

 

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Updated:

 

The Super Mario Bros. Movie - $574m

Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 - $450m $360m

Indiana Jones 5 - $375m ($300-400m range) $170m :ph34r:

The Marvels - $300m $210m (now I don't believe it will be bigger "hit" than Ant-Man)

Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom - $290m $205m

Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning, Part 1 - $280m ($250-310m range)

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - $270m $390m

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - $250m $214.5m (I was pretty close with this one)

The Flash - $250m $109m :ph34r:

Dune: Part Two - $215m

John Wick: Chapter 4 - $200m $187m (also close)

Wonka - $180m

Oppenheimer - $175m

Fast X = $165m $147m (I told'ya)

Transformers: Rise of the Beats - $150m (maybe?)

Blue Beetle = $150m $50m (it won't beat Shazam!!)

 

A very surprising year so far.

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On 7/2/2023 at 12:37 PM, Flip said:

It’s crazy that June of this year was ahead of 2022 even with everything but Spidey flopping, just shows how barren the schedule was last year

Yeah. I imagine it's a tough job for studios to evaluate how the recovery is going so they can spread their resources appropriately, they seem to have collectively over-estimated how much it would have progressed this year. Next year doesn't look great schedule-wise and the under performance of so many blockbusters this year might make them a bit skittish going forward.  Right now I'd guess overall revenue for 2024 will be lower than 2023.

But who knows, we'll see.

 

Perusing this Forbes article that was posted in the weekend thread, it still sounds like exhibitors are still the ones to worry about though ("...it hasn't been such a fairy tale for theaters..." near the end), not distributors. 

 

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Major Studios YTD Box Office

 

Domestic:

 

Disney - $1.35B

Universal - $1.13B

Sony - $589m

Paramount - $398m

Warner Bros. - $264m

 

Worldwide:

 

Disney - $3.4B

Universal - $2.89B

Sony - $1.1B

Warner Bros. - $898m

Paramount - $871m

 

source: https://deadline.com/2023/07/disney-2023-box-office-summer-marvel-indiana-jones-1235431049/

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On 7/2/2023 at 7:55 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 23 - Jun 25 / $109,097,190

2022 / Jun 24 - Jun 26 / $134,597,965

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 07 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (AS OF WEEKEND 25)

 

2023

01 | 573.0M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 351.1M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 316.8M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 270.1M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 520.8M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 409.2M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 303.1M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 190.7M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

05 | 148.6M | UNCHARTED

 

year / weekend / overall gross

 

2023 / Jun 30 - Jul 02 / $128,186,797

2022 / Jul 01 - Jul 03 / $189,927,071

 

 

2023 / Jun 30 - Jul 04 / $196,319,724

2022 / Jul 01 - Jul 04 / $223,580,059

 

WINS

2023: 18 weekends

2022: 08 weekends

 

TOP 5 MOVIES (AS OF WEEKEND 26)

 

2023

01 | 573.6M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 356.1M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 346.0M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 283.8M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

2022

01 | 570.7M | TOP GUN: MAVERICK

02 | 410.6M | DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

03 | 335.8M | JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

04 | 190.9M | SONIC THE HEDGEHOG II

05 | 148.6M | UNCHARTED

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On 7/2/2023 at 8:05 PM, kayumanggi said:

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 573.3M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 353.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 328.4M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 275.8M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 145.2M | FAST X

09 | 131.0M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

10 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

 

11 | 095.7M | THE FLASH

12 | 095.0M | M3GAN

13 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

14 | 080.9M | ELEMENTAL

15 | 067.2M | EVIL DEAD RISE

 

---

 

4 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

3 - UNIVERSAL

2 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

03 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

10 | 100M movies

19 | 050M movies

 

2023 TOP 15 MOVIES

 

01 | 573.7M | THE SUPER MARIO BROS. MOVIE

02 | 356.6M | GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY III

03 | 349.6M | SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE

04 | 285.5M | THE LITTLE MERMAID

05 | 214.5M | ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA

 

06 | 187.1M | JOHN WICK: CHAPTER IV

07 | 156.2M | CREED III

08 | 145.8M | FAST X

09 | 141.7M | TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE BEASTS

10 | 108.2M | SCREAM VI

 

11 | 102.9M | THE FLASH

12 | 099.6M | ELEMENTAL

13 | 095.0M | M3GAN

14 | 094.7M | INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY

15 | 093.3M | DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: HONOR AMONG THIEVES

 

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5 - DISNEY

1 - LIONSGATE

3 - PARAMOUNT

1 - SONY

3 - UNIVERSAL

1 - WARNER BROS.

1 - OTHERS

 

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01 | 500M movies

01 | 400M movies

03 | 300M movies

05 | 200M movies

11 | 100M movies

20 | 050M movies

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I wonder when Universal plans to start promotion for Exorcist: Believer because they're beginning to run out of viable movies they could premiere it before (lol if it's their big attachment before Oppenheimer). Unless it's headed to 2024 as strike insurance.

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9 minutes ago, filmlover said:

I wonder when Universal plans to start promotion for Exorcist: Believer because they're beginning to run out of viable movies they could premiere it before (lol if it's their big attachment before Oppenheimer). Unless it's headed to 2024 as strike insurance.


A trailer has been rated and is supposed to be out soon.

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