WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract

[MysteryMovieMogul]

I get a little depressed when people who are super outspoken about the strikes like Adam Conover start posting Instagram Stories about being at a Beyonce concert. Like, good for him, but that shit's not cheap.

[The GOAT]

 

[poweranimals]

11 hours ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

I get a little depressed when people who are super outspoken about the strikes like Adam Conover start posting Instagram Stories about being at a Beyonce concert. Like, good for him, but that shit's not cheap.

Maybe they bought their tickets before the strike began?

[MysteryMovieMogul]

7 hours ago, poweranimals said:

Maybe they bought their tickets before the strike began?

Probably, but still, the optics of Instagram Stories. You don't have to share you went on social media; you can just... go and live in the moment.

[Reddroast]

43 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

Probably, but still, the optics of Instagram Stories. You don't have to share you went on social media; you can just... go and live in the moment.

Not sharing it yourself is worse. If someone sees you at a event and posts it on their social media pages the call out is much bigger

[Jonwo]

I do wonder if SAG and indeed the AMPTMP might look at what British Equity is doing with their negotiations with various broadcasters and PACT to see if they can give a blueprint for a deal. British Equity has said they are willing to strike but I suspect they won't given the relationship with PACT is a lot better and because the negotiations aren't  until next year, they can take a wait and see approach. 

[SpiderByte]

Told you guys this is probably going through October

[Mojoguy]

I hope the AMPTP is happy will killing off the entire TV 2023-2024 season. Greed is killing off what little interest there was in tv.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Mojoguy

[JWR]

1 hour ago, Mojoguy said:

I hope the AMPTP is happy will killing off the entire TV 2023-2024 season. Greed is killing off what little interest there was in tv.

Not just greed, also ego. They know they can't win this strike, but making a deal would basically be them surrendering. 

[WittyUsername]

Stubborn mules. 

[SpiderByte]

So basically once WGA ends SAG is starting from zero, though it should be much smoother given how many similar concessions they would be making with the WGA

[Celedhring]

30 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

So basically once WGA ends SAG is starting from zero, though it should be much smoother given how many similar concessions they would be making with the WGA

 

The residuals is the main thing that both guilds share (and to an extent AI). However, SAG-AFTRA had a multitude of workplace concerns and others related to the audition process that AMPTP refused to even consider during the first round of talks. So it won't be quick.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Celedhring

[SpiderByte]

This...doesnt not line up with the rumors of Disney wanting to shed off its cable channels

[MysteryMovieMogul]

2 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

This...doesnt not line up with the rumors of Disney wanting to shed off its cable channels

Then you'd be seeing Universal and Paramount making interim deals like AMC did. There's no way Comcast is going to sit idly by and just let NBC, and Peacock by proxy, die.

[Scubasteve716]

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

[MysteryMovieMogul]

9 minutes ago, Scubasteve716 said:

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

Because, at the end of the day, they're in competition with one another. Someone steps on Netflix's toes, they'll retaliate. That's my guess...

[Speedorito]

12 minutes ago, Scubasteve716 said:

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

Do they care about goodwill? Last year Zazlov was public enemy number one, but no one stopped watching WB shows or movies.

[SpiderByte]

1 hour ago, Scubasteve716 said:

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

Smaller ones can. Larger ones have a lot of of pressure and incentives to work together on this.

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, Scubasteve716 said:

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

Maybe partly because the general public simply doesn’t care/know enough about all this for the studios to care enough about their own public perception with this. Though I imagine the casual public will still caring a whole lot more once we’re actually in the thick of barren tv/movie slates. If the strike is not resolved by then though, it’s really screwed. 

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Scubasteve716 said:

Can someone smarter than me explain why a company like WBD or Universal or any of the big studios wouldn't agree with terms separately to gain a bunch of goodwill and get a big leg up on the competition? 

 

IMO the real answer is none of them are hurting enough to go on their own.  Also, something of a prisoner's dilemma at play for them as the unity of the AMPTP gives them clear bargaining power if they stay relatively united, even if some of them could get a deal done today on their own.

 

Also, if one of the major members of the AMPTP went rogue, would they be even allowed to stay in the AMPTP?  Have to look at not only future labor negotiations, but just Hollywood Business in general.

 

Mind, given that these are all cutthroat companies, if push came to shove/they felt it was "worth it", one of them might damn the torpedoes and deal with the fallout later.  But for now they're gonna ride it out in the hope of grinding the opposition through sheer asymmetrical power/money imbalance.

Edited September 5, 2023 by Porthos